Thor vs Martian Manhunter(please read op)

No prep,bfr, time limit, both bloodlusted, takes place on an inhabited Earth, no one character wins until the other is killed.

Thor possesses his hammer, and he possesses the Odin Force.

Both MM and Thor posseses the Speedster Force.

Character Versions:

Martian Manhunter

Thor

Martian.

This is basically a fight to the death.

Close ... but I give it to the oreo lover.

J'onn's healing factor will be Thor's biggest hurdle. That and his ability to assimilate the environment to boost his durability.

@CitizenBane said:

Martian.

MM.

thor

@bravery said:

thor

How?

The Martian Manhunter

martian...still have speed adv...

J'onn.

@CitizenBane said:

J'onn's healing factor will be Thor's biggest hurdle. That and his ability to assimilate the environment to boost his durability.

True.

J'onn, too fast too strong and far more versatile.

@geraldthesloth said:

J'onn, too fast too strong and far more versatile.

Easily the Martian

Thor without Mjolnir vs Martian? lo this is almost a stomp imo. Thor will be to predictable without Mjolnir. I mean ok if he was fighting Orion, Superman or whatever. But a versatile guy like MM has way to many tools.

IMO MM Thor without Mjolnir 7 out of 10

@geraldthesloth said:

J'onn, too fast too strong and far more versatile.

Martian.

@ReVamp said:

Martian.

What if I gave Thor his hammer? Would it be a more balanced fight?

m99

No,would not, moreover Thor is a god fighting a god is already unjust, and give him back the hammer even more unfair.

The Manhunter, without to much trouble. His strength and durability are impressive, and his regeneration gives him a big edge. His massive advantage in speed makes this a stomp.

The hammer would help Thor, but Manhunter's regeneration and speed just put him outside of Thor's league.

@matchesmalone21 said:

No,would not, moreover Thor is a god fighting a god is already unjust, and give him back the hammer even more unfair.

What do you believe would make it fair?

@Lady_Liberty said:

The Manhunter, without to much trouble. His strength and durability are impressive, and his regeneration gives him a big edge. His massive advantage in speed makes this a stomp.

The hammer would help Thor, but Manhunter's regeneration and speed just put him outside of Thor's league.

Thor could destroy MM with Odin Force.

m99

Martain Manhunter.

@CitizenBane said:

J'onn's healing factor will be Thor's biggest hurdle. That and his ability to assimilate the environment to boost his durability.

This

@EpitomeofCool said:

martian...still have speed adv...

And This

Thor could destroy MM with Odin Force.

m99

And let me say this, the powers listed for each character are the only powers each characters is allowed to have in the fight.

*Godlike Invulnerability: Being a god whose heritage is half-Asgardian & half-Elder God affords Thor absolute invulnerability and immunity to such human ailments as diseases, toxins, poisons, corrosives, fire, electrocution, asphyxiation, lead, and radiation poisoning. Thor can drink mead all day long and not get drunk. Thor is also extremely difficult to kill as his life force is considerably augmented by his godlike heritage, powers, Mjolnir , and the Odin Force - even if it is only relegated within Mjolnir as a smaller portion at the moment.

*Regenerative Healing Factor: Despite his astounding resistance to injury, it is possible to injure Thor. In the rare instances that he is injured, his body is capable of repairing damaged tissue with much greater speed and efficiency than the body of a human being and almost all other Asgardians. He can regenerate missing limbs or organs, with the aid of magical forces such as Mjolnir or the Odin Force

@majestic99 said:

@ReVamp said:

Martian.

What if I gave Thor his hammer? Would it be a more balanced fight?

m99

Yes.

With it, Thor wins.

@texasdeathmatch:

1. I said he could destroy MM with Odin Force hypothetically.

2. This isn't a stomp in Thor's favor.

3. It's obvious you don't know what a fanboy is, so stop using the term.

m99

MM

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: Oh, so now you're just mentioning random, hypothetical facts even though you were replying to Lady Liberty, who stated MM would win and never even mentioned the Odin Force. Because that makes total sense. Also, your second point is completely pointless, I never said anything about this being a stomp. And its obvious what you're doing here, so stop making these terrible threads.

1. I was saying Thor could, with the Odin Force. That's why I mentioned it.

2. Oh, that's right. Because is this the first time you actually reply to one of my Thor threads and say it's not spite? I'm suprised!

3. Yes it obvious what I'm doing here....making a balanced fight.

m99

@CitizenBane said:

Martian.

What do you think would tip the scale in Thor's favor?(or make this fight more balanced)

m99

@texasdeathmatch said:

@majestic99: 1. Once again, why are you mentioning this? Just to remind people that OF Thor can beat MM? Or to remind yourself how cool Thor is? 2. Hey, at least you're developing a sense of sarcasm. So there's some progression.3. Well you're doing an awful job at it, especially if you're constantly re-editing your OP to try to make this "fair."

1. I only mentioned it to her and then you decided to do what you do to me in every other Thor thread...make a big deal out of something that I didn't even mention to you.

2. Your jokes aren't funny.

3. It's called learning, and besides, I'm just taking in other's people's opinions. Something you should learn to do and stop trolling.

m99

1. No, I'm calling you out because you're making Thor threads with the intention of him winning.
2. It wasn't a joke. I'm really proud of your sense of sarcasm. Really. I am.
3. That's learning? Jesus, what ever happened to actually doing research instead of blindly going forward?
 
Anyways, I'm outta work. Thanks for the amusement. I think we're done here.

@texasdeathmatch:

1. Yes you are.

2. Really, you're not funny.

3. I do research, but like some people, they just blindly criticize and assume before actually getting to know anything.

4. I enjoy listening to your comments, they make me laugh.

m99

@majestic99: way to take people's crap, kudos to you. MM will probably lose as Thor uses his power over lightning to set something on fire.

The Martian

the man hunter or in this case the Asgardian hunter takes this fight

Thor has no way to overcome Manhunter's regeneration.

Thor has no way to deal with Manhunter's speed blitz.

The defense favors Manhunter, the offense favors Manhunter.

If more powers were taken away from Manhunter, it might be a more even fight, but the problem is when you take away to many powers you might as well not have the characters fight because it isn't really them anymore.

Martian...

@EpitomeofCool said:

martian...still have speed adv...

how so? thor himself has microsecond reaction time, havent seen MM show the same.

@Lady_Liberty said:

Thor has no way to overcome Manhunter's regeneration.

Thor has no way to deal with Manhunter's speed blitz.

The defense favors Manhunter, the offense favors Manhunter.

If more powers were taken away from Manhunter, it might be a more even fight, but the problem is when you take away to many powers you might as well not have the characters fight because it isn't really them anymore.

I am surprised on seeing this, what makes ppl think MM is faster than Thor??

@Killemall: Well he's a Martian, and they have speed-blitzed Superman. Thor's speed just isn't in the same league.

Martian Manhunter. Even without TP and intangibility, his feats for strength, speed and durability put him at Superman level. As for Thor, without Mjolnir he's just a brick with fighting skills. With Mjolnir it'd be fairer but MM still wins in the no hammer and the hammer condition.

@Lady_Liberty said:

@Killemall: Well he's a Martian, and they have speed-blitzed Superman. Thor's speed just isn't in the same league.

They have? i have never seen this before, could i get issue number or scans plz?

@EpitomeofCool said:

martian...still have speed adv...

how so? thor himself has microsecond reaction time, havent seen MM show the same.

@Killemall said:

@Lady_Liberty said:

Thor has no way to overcome Manhunter's regeneration.

Thor has no way to deal with Manhunter's speed blitz.

The defense favors Manhunter, the offense favors Manhunter.

If more powers were taken away from Manhunter, it might be a more even fight, but the problem is when you take away to many powers you might as well not have the characters fight because it isn't really them anymore.

I am surprised on seeing this, what makes ppl think MM is faster than Thor??

Thor has no speed without Mjolnir and the same for his reaction time. In the past MM was able to fly around the world in a couple of seconds. (Sorry, I don't remember the issue and I don't have the scans.) He's anyway about as fast and strong as Superman and Wonder Woman. Same for his reaction time though WWs reaction time is faster than his and even Supermans. Besides his flight is much more free and doesn't rely on anything to fly. Also he can regenerate himself from just a finger left. In the end he can outsmart Thor if he refuses to fight for some reason...

@DesertHunter24 said:

Thor has no speed without Mjolnir and the same for his reaction time. In the past MM was able to fly around the world in a couple of seconds. (Sorry, I don't remember the issue and I don't have the scans.) He's anyway about as fast and strong as Superman and Wonder Woman. Same for his reaction time though WWs reaction time is faster than his Supermans. Besides his flight is much more free and doesn't rely on anything to fly. Also he can regenerate himself from just a finger left. In the end he can outsmart Thor if he refuses to fight for some reason...

So how do you explain his microsecond reaction time.

Any proof why WW reaction time should even be close to Superman's let alone faster? Superman has a nanosecond reaction time, Wonder Woman doesnt plain and simply.

Flight is travel speed, they arent running they are fighting, show me either MM showing a nanosecond reaction time, or show me MM speedblitzing someone faster than Superman and then I will gladly change my mind.

Also in terms of fighting, Silver Surfer has and Thor's have jumped from planets to planets while fighting, thats a lot faster than going aroung earth, please get your facts straight.

@Killemall said:

@DesertHunter24 said:

Thor has no speed without Mjolnir and the same for his reaction time. In the past MM was able to fly around the world in a couple of seconds. (Sorry, I don't remember the issue and I don't have the scans.) He's anyway about as fast and strong as Superman and Wonder Woman. Same for his reaction time though WWs reaction time is faster than his Supermans. Besides his flight is much more free and doesn't rely on anything to fly. Also he can regenerate himself from just a finger left. In the end he can outsmart Thor if he refuses to fight for some reason...

So how do you explain his microsecond reaction time.

Any proof why WW reaction time should even be close to Superman's let alone faster? Superman has a nanosecond reaction time, Wonder Woman doesnt plain and simply.

Flight is travel speed, they arent running they are fighting, show me either MM showing a nanosecond reaction time, or show me MM speedblitzing someone faster than Superman and then I will gladly change my mind.

Also in terms of fighting, Silver Surfer has and Thor's have jumped from planets to planets while fighting, thats a lot faster than going aroung earth, please get your facts straight.

Because Superman stated that Wonder Womans refexes are faster due to the fact that she's a supertrained warrior and her reflexes are intuitive most of the time. That gives her faster reaction time in battles. Btw, she's beaten an enraged Superman. Well, you're right about the Surfer, but thanks to WIS and PIS everyone seems to be able to take down the Surfer ...whereas actually even Thor should lose against him, I'm not even talking about the Hulk...In exception of Flash (thanks to the speed force) no hero in DC would go lightspeed on a planet, because it would damage the environment, so what happens in space is irrelevant. Btw, MM was able to draw blood from beeings like Supergirl by punches alone (Superman or not, she's kryptonian), which means that he's gotta be fast enough. Also J'onn managed to catch bullets and other projectiles with his hands just like Superman, whereas Thor needs his hammer to deflect them, but even the wiki-info in the OP says that. He also helped Superman and Wonder Woman to pull the Earth back into it's orbit:

@DesertHunter24 said:

@Killemall said:

Because Superman stated that Wonder Womans refexes are faster due to the fact that she's a supertrained warrior and her reflexes are intuitive most of the time. That gives her faster reaction time in battles. Btw, she's beaten an enraged Superman. Well, you're right about the Surfer, but thanks to WIS and PIS everyone seems to be able to take down the Surfer ...whereas actually even Thor should lose against him, I'm not even talking about the Hulk...In exception of Flash (thanks to the speed force) no hero in DC would go lightspeed on a planet, because it would damage the environment, so what happens in space is irrelevant. Btw, MM was able to draw blood from beeings like Supergirl by punches alone (Superman or not, she's kryptonian), which means that he's gotta be fast enough. Also J'onn managed to catch bullets and other projectiles with his hands just like Superman, whereas Thor needs his hammer to deflect them, but even the wiki-info in the OP says that. He also helped Superman and Wonder Woman to pull the Earth back into it's orbit:

So by your words the only proof you have of her fast reflexes is few passing words by superman, i know three instances where he's denied her being faster. Neither of that holds weight unless you have substantive proof to show, for example a reaction feat. flash is consider faster than superman, not because someone once mentioned flash was faster because he has shown picosecond reaction time and has speedblitz people, has wonder woman or MM ever speedblitz people or shown reaction time. there's your answer mate.

Are you now saying Thor is not even as strong as a kryptonian? He has better durability feats than Superman, he's resisted the gravity of a neutron star, survived a supernova without getting KOed (superman did too but he was KOed), also dont see how thats a speed feat at all.

You know who else has managed to catch bullets, venom and spiderman. So yeah that feat is crap.

Thor doesnt deflect bullets bullets cant harm thor anyways. Read any of Thor current issues and you'll know that. Seem to me your knoweledge of thor is limited to wiki, i dont blame you thor isnt as popular as Superman. People , generally those that are new to comicvine, tend to think WW, Superman are legaues above heroes like Thor. which is not even remotely true.

Firstly, wow great but then remember they MOVED the planet did not lift it. Also thats one feat that sticks out, same as Thor being able to lift midguard serprent who was stated to be 1/3 of earth weight, or being able to resist gravity of the gravity pull of neutron start which is equavilent to lifting a weight of 5.93 * 10^23 kilos.

So yes one again, show me a nanosecond reaction feat from MM or MM being able to speedblitz someone as fast as superman and then i will admit MM is faster than Thor.

MM being stronger than thor, or being more durable than thor, that i dont agree at all.

MM being harder to defeat than thor because of shape shifting and regeneration, that's a given that i cant argue against.,