@buttersdaman000 said:
@all_mighty_beyonder: @darkazrael999:
BRB has no nano-second feats, and Gladiator has ever only used that speed or anything close to it ONCE. In fact, has nano-second, microsecond or even millisecond been mentioned in reference to him since then? What other quantifiable speed feats, that arent travel or guess work, have these two had??
@ancient_0f_days said:
Superman and Wonder Woman are both faster than Gladiator's and Beta Ray Bill's inconsistent nano-second reaction feats. Both have shown to be faster than thought, striking power falls short to nigh impenetrable defense, speed, skill, comparable strength and one hitter quitter equipment. Both Superman and Wonder Woman would beat BRB or Gladiator on their own, League founders win.
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Gladiator suffers frm jobbing because of the confidence stuff (not in this thread since OP specify Gladiator keeps 100% confidence) but he had on panel quantified reaction time of nanosecond when he fougth Hyperion.
for BRB, for me it's only speed scaling proof, not on panel direct evidence, SS fougth Gladiator hand to hand to a standstill, that proves SS has nanosecond reaction time too, in another scene, BRB kept up with SS's speed in their fight, that shows BRB has about nanosecond reaction time too.
now what's about Wonder Woman? does she have direct on panel quantified reaction speed? i know about Sup but what about Wonder Woman, if you're going to say she has better reaction speed than Superman or equal because of this or that fight or because of this or that statement, it makes it no different from speed scaling that i did on BRB.
that's about speed reflex, now about strike power : Gladiator had destroyed an entire planet with a couple puches with no initial travel velocity. and BRB is known to be planet buster too (can't remember his planet bust feats though), so what puts Sups or Diana on Marvel team level in strike/punch/kick power?
Ignoring the fact that Gladiator has no consistent speed feats anywhere close to that level, you're basing your assumptions off the belief that comic bricks use their speed in every single fight they're in. Was there any indication of Gladiator using nano-second speed in his fight with Silver Surfer? If not, then you can't simply assume that level of speed for surfer* based off of Gladiator. Think of how ridiculous it would be if I applied that to....Solomon Grundy? He and Superman have fought multiple times in the past but i'm not ever gonna call Grundy fast. The same goes for BRB. You can't apply ABC logic here.
Yes, she does but i'm not familiar with her better feats. The best proof is Superman's admittance that she is faster than him (reaction wise). It doesn't seem to be by a lot seeing as how Superman still manages to get the best of her, but still, she's on par with him. And yeah, there is a difference. What you're doing is assuming that every character is fighting with their full speed every time they fight. Going by you're logic, through six degrees of separation, every single person in MU should have nano-second reactions. Now, if Gladiator or Surfer on panel said that BRB was their equal in speed, and assuming that he at least gains more feats to back it up, it would be a different story.
I admit here that Superman's best on panel striking feat was destroying and cracking a large portion of the moon with a deflected punch. Truth is, DC characters don't go around destroying planets. Superman has stated multiple times that he could, and, he has flown through and destroyed some planets, but never with punching. And, as we both know, Wonder Woman is on Superman's level strength wise as well. So, the Marvel team is ~stronger~ but, the DC team is certainly in their range
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