Superman vs Ultimate Ben 10,000

Any version of Superman can be involved (well you already know of his powers) Ultimate Ben- The ultimate version of Ben 10,000 which allow him to have the powers of all his aliens. Ben has over a million aliens but only the ones that are seen or heard of are allowed. No morals

New 52 Supes gets stomped.

Every other version stomps.

@ShadoVvlite said:

Oh Also please tell why and first know the capability of both of them

I do.

New 52 Supes gets his internal organs frozen then Ben uses his watch to go Humongosaur inside of him.

Every other version has the physical capability to rip Ben's head off before he can do anything.

Every version of Superman wins this...except golden age

I am going with Ben, obviously. He has enough strength to hurt Supes(Way Big), he can react to Supes' speed(again Way Big), can control time(clockwork), can res mind(Amfibian), can go intangible(big chill)...etc. He's way too versatile for Supes. Better fight would be him vs MM(without TP).

@rbt: Omnitrix prevents TP, as seen with the Diagon episodes.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: When was it established? Which episode exactly?

@rbt: Not entirely sure, sorry. I'm pretty sure it was somewhere either near their confrontation with Sir George as the Diagon's "prison" or somewhere during their confrontation with Vilgax as his herald.

Ben 10 uses alien X, Toe Pick, Clockwork to STOMP.

Superman Prime One Million murderstomps.

Any version of superman?

Tough Robot and SPOM want to have a talk with ben.

@Pierpat: In that case, Ben can use Alien X.

Wasn't it Gwen who protected the three of them?

Tough robot still stomps him.

@dondave: No, she got controlled by the Diagon multiple times.

@Pierpat: Thought robot isn't really Superman. And SPOM vs Alien X is very much debatable. But Ben 10000 will win against New 52 or Pre 52 Supes.

@dondave: Gwen got controlled more than one time. Omnitrix should be able to block TP.

In character?

Nah.

Morals off lucky ben yes.

Ben10k

@Pierpat: Morals on Ben can't defeat Supes? He was disintegrating people with his timeray when his morals were on. Believe me, Ben isn't as much bound by morals as Superman is. Heck, he went for killing blow when he was 10.

Well, ben 10k should be way too versatile..

when people deserve it.

Supes is a hero, Ben loves heroes, he would try to put him down without killing him.

Alien X, reality warper.
Eon, inter-dimensional time warper.

@Pierpat: No morals. Read the OP. Ben won't hesitate before using his timeray or cosmic rays.

That's why i specified a morals on before and morals off after.

@Pierpat: Oh. Ok. But I think Ben has a fair chance of defeating Supes even with morals on. Sure, he won't use his timeray, but he is still strong and fast with a huge advantage of intangibility. Supes' heat vision, freeze breath won't work on him.

Ben has BFRd people into the sun in his dreams. xD

In any case, Big Chill (ultimate stomps). Its ice breath absorbs heat from whatever it touches and uses that to burn whatever. "Ice so ice it burns." Yeah. And besides, a moral off Big Chill can remove Supers heart or brain from inside him. I remember ghost freak pulling a stunt like that when he was 10.

@lowlaville: Ghosk freak, when was it?

Ben won't just jump into intagibility.

He loves to start of with big heavy hitters like homogosaur and way big, and that's why i think supes could take a solid majority,

I don't remember too well. Maybe Im just imagining things.

@Pierpat: Ben has access to all his powers in one form. Means he can hit as hard,as Way Big and can still go intangible.

@rbt: did not know that.

Feats?

@Pierpat: Lol. None. Ben 10k just made a statement about his ultimate form where he can access powers of all his forms.

@rbt: Not quite, he still had to tap his omnitrix in his chest if I remember correctly.

@The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk: I need to watch that episode again, but Matt Wayne said he can do it very quickly.

@rbt: Tapping his chest is pretty quick. In the episodes I remember when he appeared, he still had to tap his chest to activate an alien's abilities.(like when he was on the plane with Ben & crew and Eon's minions attacked.)

mah, hyperbole xD

ben wins, it's silly to explain when all above me have already

@allstarsuperman: prime one million is featless. Im not going to argue so please check the forum

@karanrasquinha: You commented on something I said 5 and a half years ago.

And prime one million would still beat any Ben 10 alien, Alien X included