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So the Superior Spider-Man ends up in the Ultimate Marvel universe. Deciding that this alternate earth is interesting enough to warrant long-term study, Otto camps himself out there and quickly makes a name for himself. Eventually though, he begins to attract some unwanted attention, leading to this here gauntlet.

Some notes on the gauntlet:

  • Otto gets no prep or rest in-between rounds 1-3
  • He gets 3 hours rest in-between rounds 4-6
  • He gets 3 hours rest and 30 minutes of prep in-between rounds 7-9
  • He gets 2 hours rest and 1 hour of prep in-between rounds 10-12
  • He gets 1 hour rest and 2 hours of prep in-between rounds 13-15
  • He gets no rest but 4 hours prep before the final round
  • Prep time cannot be used for additional rest, and rest time cannot be used for prep time.

THE ROUNDS

Round 1: Shocker

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Round 2: Punisher

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Round 3: Moon Knight

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Round 4: Shang-Chi

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Round 5: Elektra

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Round 6: Ronin

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Round 7: Hawkeye

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Round 8: Black Widow (Pre-Armor)

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Round 9: Spider-Woman

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Round 10: Doctor Octopus (Pre-Upgrade)

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Round 11: Captain America

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Round 12: Venom (Conrad Marcus)

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Round 13: Doctor Octopus (Metal-Control)

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Round 14: Green Goblin

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Round 15: Sabertooth

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Round 16: Wolverine

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How far does Otto get?

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I don't recall Ult. Deadpool doing anything that impressive. Any reason why he's the last round?

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#3  Edited By shroudofsorrow

@cf12793: Well, his HF for one. And I think it took Kitty phasing through him or somesuch to finally put him down. Might replace him with Sabertooth.

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@cf12793 said:

I don't recall Ult. Deadpool doing anything that impressive. Any reason why he's the last round?

Same here, he sucked!

Round 7 he can possibly lose.

Round 11 and 14 are debatable.

Round 12 and 13 are straight loses.

He can pass every other round pretty much :/

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@cf12793: Well, his HF for one. And I think it took Kitty phasing through him or somesuch to finally put him down. Might replace him with Sabertooth.

Sabertooth is worst than Wolverine :/ Also he was a machine man, nothing to do with a healing factor really.

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#6  Edited By BeaconofStrength

Yeah I don't think Deadpool deserves to be at the top; he should be below Moon Knight because of his lack of feats. Has a small chance at stopping at Ronin because he was kinda a plot device, but I'd say he stops at Ult Hawkeye most likely.

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@cadencev2: I seem him as being too agile and fast to be tagged by Ultimate Hawkeye, who's been placed below 616 Clint anyway. I personally think he can handle Cap, especially with some prep.

Didn't Miles beat Conrad Marcus and Peter Norman? Why can't Otto beat them?

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@cadencev2: I seem him as being too agile and fast to be tagged by Ultimate Hawkeye, who's been placed below 616 Clint anyway. I personally think he can handle Cap, especially with some prep.

Didn't Miles beat Conrad Marcus and Peter Norman? Why can't Otto beat them?

Peter NEVER beaten Norman without major help. Period. Never ever.

Conrad was beaten due to plot device attack Spider Sting. Does SpOck have that? No? Didnt think so.

Also you rank 616 Clint higher than ultimate? Thats a sad judgement call.

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@cadencev2: He has been ranked above him. He and Ult. Cap are more vicious than their 616 counterparts but still below them in terms of capabilities.

Otto does have access to toys that Miles was lacking in. Those plus prep time might give him a chance.

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@cadencev2: He has been ranked above him. He and Ult. Cap are more vicious than their 616 counterparts but still below them in terms of capabilities.

Otto does have access to toys that Miles was lacking in. Those plus prep time might give him a chance.

On the Otto vs Venom, he does not know the weakness Venom has, nor does he have any toy in his series to counter Venom.

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@cadencev2: Yeah and 1 hour of prep may not be enough time to learn Venom's weakness. But say he did figure it out, could he maybe then find some way to overcome him?

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Stops at Doc Oct.

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@cadencev2: Yeah and 1 hour of prep may not be enough time to learn Venom's weakness. But say he did figure it out, could he maybe then find some way to overcome him?

Its easy to put Venom down if you know his weakness. Electricity is everywhere. Finding it out is a trade secrete to only a very select few.

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@patrat18: Otto pre-upgrade has lost to Ult. Peter Parker, who is inferior to Superior Spider-Man

@cadencev2: Perhaps, but wasn't Peter able to figure it out during his first fight with Eddie-Venom just by virtue of some electricity going off as a result of damage to the environment? Otto could get lucky and happen upon the weakness that way.

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Don't see him getting past GG

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@shroudofsorrow: I never said anything on pre metal control, I said Otto with metal control could stomp him.

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There's no way Hawkeye can beat SpOck when he couldn't even tag Ultimate Spider-Man.

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Don't know enough about ultimate venom but I say it stops at Dock Ock with metal control since SpOck is basically covered with metal.

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SpOck brings his Power Dampenig Field and clears

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@jashro44: Conrad was serious business according to Cadence. If Otto isn't able to deduce Ultimate Venom's weakness to electricity he likely won't win, as his arsenal as is isn't powerful enough to down Venom the way Miles' stingers did.

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@nickzambuto: hawk has tagged spidey repetedly in a single fight. As for this, Spock can lose at 11 and probably dies at GG

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@hyperviper97: Ult. Hawkeye tagged Ult. Spider-Man? When did that happen?

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@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

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@nickzambuto: It would be nice to have some scans and background info though.

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@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

Its funny that Hawkeye held back from hitting Peter due to Captain America's orders, but its a low showing lol. He easily shot out the Webbing of Spider Man while avoiding to hit Peter lol.

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SpOck brings his Power Dampenig Field and clears

This is false as well. The power Dampener would get ripped off by Ock metal control like everything else and it would not work on Venom as he has no powers. He is naturally a super Goo being.

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@cadencev2: It would be useful against the other characters though, including GG, Wolverine, and Sabertooth.

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@nickzambuto said:

@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

Its funny that Hawkeye held back from hitting Peter due to Captain America's orders, but its a low showing lol. He easily shot out the Webbing of Spider Man while avoiding to hit Peter lol.

That doesn't prove he could have tagged Spider-Man.

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@cadencev2 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

Its funny that Hawkeye held back from hitting Peter due to Captain America's orders, but its a low showing lol. He easily shot out the Webbing of Spider Man while avoiding to hit Peter lol.

That doesn't prove he could have tagged Spider-Man.

The fact Peter's Webbing seems to move as fast as him, and is a smaller target as well says other wise ;) Not to mention Hawkeye avoided peters Web assault as well while talking trash.

Add in the fact Hawkeye has legit super speed in the Twitch Factor. Yeah, gonna say the evidence weighs against your claim more so than mine.

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@nickzambuto said:

@cadencev2 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

Its funny that Hawkeye held back from hitting Peter due to Captain America's orders, but its a low showing lol. He easily shot out the Webbing of Spider Man while avoiding to hit Peter lol.

That doesn't prove he could have tagged Spider-Man.

The fact Peter's Webbing seems to move as fast as him, and is a smaller target as well says other wise ;) Not to mention Hawkeye avoided peters Web assault as well while talking trash.

Add in the fact Hawkeye has legit super speed in the Twitch Factor. Yeah, gonna say the evidence weighs against your claim more so than mine.

The webbing also moves in one direction. It is not a sentient being like spider-man is.

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@nickzambuto said:

@cadencev2 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@hyperviper97: No, I suggest you read the fight again. Hawkeye shot Spider-Man once, by hitting him by surprise. The rest of the fight Peter danced around every shot fired and then webbed Hawkeye to a tree.

Its funny that Hawkeye held back from hitting Peter due to Captain America's orders, but its a low showing lol. He easily shot out the Webbing of Spider Man while avoiding to hit Peter lol.

That doesn't prove he could have tagged Spider-Man.

The fact Peter's Webbing seems to move as fast as him, and is a smaller target as well says other wise ;) Not to mention Hawkeye avoided peters Web assault as well while talking trash.

Add in the fact Hawkeye has legit super speed in the Twitch Factor. Yeah, gonna say the evidence weighs against your claim more so than mine.

Honestly I've read the scans and I don't see Hawkeye shooting down the webs anywhere during the fight.

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#37  Edited By Pokergeist

@nickzambuto said:

Honestly I've read the scans and I don't see Hawkeye shooting down the webs anywhere during the fight.

Thats because your near blind :) Even in the last scan he says he is messing with Peter, not even trying.

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@jashro44: False. Look at the art, that webbing is all over the place, not straight line at all.

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#38  Edited By jashro44

@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

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@cadencev2: Hawkeye is just shooting the webs Peter is swinging on, not any directed at him. That's very unimpressive.

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@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

Its not linear at all. When shot in a direction yes, when caught in the wind, breeze, or simply waved around by something on it, NO!

C'mon... that stuff in the art is all over the place. Maybe there was a breeze? Maybe Spidey moved it around alot? Either way, its drawn to be moving.

@cadencev2: Hawkeye is just shooting the webs Peter is swinging on, not any directed at him. That's very unimpressive.

Yes, its so unimpressive to hit a small target moving rapidly around from a Spider Man speed foe. As unimpressive as Solid Snake beating a holding back Grey Fox lol.

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#41  Edited By Tohoma

He could possibly stop at Hawkeye.

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@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

Its not linear at all. When shot in a direction yes, when caught in the wind, breeze, or simply waved around by something on it, NO!

C'mon... that stuff in the art is all over the place. Maybe there was a breeze? Maybe Spidey moved it around alot? Either way, its drawn to be moving.

I doubt the wind is strong enough to impact something that moves as fast as webbing and even if it did it would still be easier to predict then spider-mans movements. All he has to do is feel which way the wind is blowing to predict that.

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#43  Edited By Pokergeist

@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

Its not linear at all. When shot in a direction yes, when caught in the wind, breeze, or simply waved around by something on it, NO!

C'mon... that stuff in the art is all over the place. Maybe there was a breeze? Maybe Spidey moved it around alot? Either way, its drawn to be moving.

I doubt the wind is strong enough to impact something that moves as fast as webbing and even if it did it would still be easier to predict then spider-mans movements. All he has to do is feel which way the wind is blowing to predict that.

Look, make all the excuses you want, the art is flat out against your assumptions my friend :/ The Webbing is bent, and rounded all over the place showing non straight or linear webbing there.

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

Its not linear at all. When shot in a direction yes, when caught in the wind, breeze, or simply waved around by something on it, NO!

C'mon... that stuff in the art is all over the place. Maybe there was a breeze? Maybe Spidey moved it around alot? Either way, its drawn to be moving.

I doubt the wind is strong enough to impact something that moves as fast as webbing and even if it did it would still be easier to predict then spider-mans movements. All he has to do is feel which way the wind is blowing to predict that.

Look, make all the excuses you want, the art is flat out against your assumptions my friend :/ The Webbing is bent, and rounded all over the place showing non straight or linear webbing there.

Well as I said even if I am wrong that still doesn't equate to tagging spider-man.

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2: It all over the place because hawk eye shot it. Webbing is linear and it cannot change direction in flight....Unless you are arguing spider-mans webbing has a mind of its own....

Its not linear at all. When shot in a direction yes, when caught in the wind, breeze, or simply waved around by something on it, NO!

C'mon... that stuff in the art is all over the place. Maybe there was a breeze? Maybe Spidey moved it around alot? Either way, its drawn to be moving.

I doubt the wind is strong enough to impact something that moves as fast as webbing and even if it did it would still be easier to predict then spider-mans movements. All he has to do is feel which way the wind is blowing to predict that.

Look, make all the excuses you want, the art is flat out against your assumptions my friend :/ The Webbing is bent, and rounded all over the place showing non straight or linear webbing there.

Well as I said even if I am wrong that still doesn't equate to tagging spider-man.

Of course not, I said its a good indication he could as hitting a moving string of web faster than Spider can throw them, and all the while holding a casual conversation of how he is simply messing with Peter is a damn good feat ;)

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#46  Edited By jashro44

Of course not, I said its a good indication he could as hitting a moving string of web faster than Spider can throw them, and all the while holding a casual conversation of how he is simply messing with Peter is a damn good feat ;)

I can agree its a impressive feat.

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2 said:

Of course not, I said its a good indication he could as hitting a moving string of web faster than Spider can throw them, and all the while holding a casual conversation of how he is simply messing with Peter is a damn good feat ;)

I can agree its a impressive feat.

Anyway, the end result is a possible win for HE, but nothing solid to argue, that is my my final word on it.

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#48  Edited By jashro44

@cadencev2: Eh, agree to disagree. I think between SpOcks bullet proof webbing and his agility ultimate hawk eye will struggle to tag him. He's a great marksmen its just I feel SpOck is a bad match for him.

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2: Eh, agree to disagree. I think between SpOcks bullet proof webbing and his agility ultimate hawk eye will struggle to tag him. He's a great marksmen its just I feel SpOck is a bad match for him.

I never said it was a good chance.

OMGWTFLMAO NUKE ARROW FTW!

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@jashro44 said:

@cadencev2: Eh, agree to disagree. I think between SpOcks bullet proof webbing and his agility ultimate hawk eye will struggle to tag him. He's a great marksmen its just I feel SpOck is a bad match for him.

I never said it was a good chance.

OMGWTFLMAO NUKE ARROW FTW!

Nuke arrow only has a blast radius of 15-20 ft and has a one second timer :p