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#1 Edited by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

The Rules...

  • Buffy is attempting to slay every vampire who's ever appeared within TVD universe w/ her Twilight powers.
  • Although she is in their universe, Buffy has not been nerfed in any way.
  • She has to face them all at once.
  1. Morals: In character
  2. Prep: The TVD vamps have detailed prior knowledge about Buffy but only about her base abilities and background.They know nothing about her Twilightpowers.
  3. Weapons: Standard equipment
  4. Location: Mystic Falls, VA -- 37 feet away from each other

Who wins and why?

#2 Posted by Fallschirmjager (18777 posts) - - Show Bio

hypersonic flight? check

100+ ton strength? check

crashed through mountains without injury? check

the best fighter in the buffyverse? check

what's is there to debate about?

#3 Posted by Funsiized (3726 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Don't forget her and "Twilight "Doing the Do, Knocking boots, Bumping Uglies. Caused Sonic booms, and they smashed through mountains with Zero effect.

but i heard the Originals from VD were doing some Hinky stuff.

#4 Posted by Fallschirmjager (18777 posts) - - Show Bio
#5 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#6 Posted by Funsiized (3726 posts) - - Show Bio
#7 Posted by Wyldsong (5842 posts) - - Show Bio

Unless some feats get provided that show far more than what I have seen in some of the other threads, Super Buff should take this in a pretty massive stomp.

#8 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

What is with the Vampire Diaries?

#9 Edited by Evil Incarnate (4164 posts) - - Show Bio

Buffy turns The Vampire Diaries into The Vampire Obituaries!

#10 Posted by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

hypersonic flight? check

100+ ton strength? check

crashed through mountains without injury? check

the best fighter in the buffyverse? check

what's is there to debate about?

I was thinking the same question.

#11 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

Buffy turns The Vampire Diaries into The Vampire Obituaries!

They have home court advantage and somewhat reliable, albeit outdated intel on Buffy. It won't be that easy.

#12 Posted by Noone301994 (6294 posts) - - Show Bio

hypersonic flight? check

100+ ton strength? check

crashed through mountains without injury? check

the best fighter in the buffyverse? check

what's is there to debate about?

#13 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#14 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio
#15 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio
#16 Posted by Fallschirmjager (18777 posts) - - Show Bio

@fallschirmjager: Has Buffy faced witches before? And how did she fair?

i only have limited knowledge of comic buffy

in the show she fights Dark Willow, but they win more or less because of PIS

#17 Edited by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

@fallschirmjager: Has Buffy faced witches before? And how did she fair?

i only have limited knowledge of comic buffy

in the show she fights Dark Willow, but they win more or less because of PIS

Maybe @cadencev2 knows. How does Buffy fair with witches?

#18 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp said:

@fallschirmjager said:

@monsterstomp said:

@fallschirmjager: Has Buffy faced witches before? And how did she fair?

i only have limited knowledge of comic buffy

in the show she fights Dark Willow, but they win more or less because of PIS

Maybe @cadencev2 knows. How does Buffy fair with witches?

She fairs well against magics of mind controlling kind. Thats it.

She has no magic resistance I am aware of, IIRC she was cursed once too.

#19 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

#20 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: I have no knowledge on Super Buffy. What are her best durability feats?

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

#21 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@carter_esque: I have no knowledge on Super Buffy. What are her best durability feats?

@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Ever seen Man of Steel? Buffy was smashing through mountains having sex.

#22 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@carter_esque: I have no knowledge on Super Buffy. What are her best durability feats?

@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Ever seen Man od Steel? Buffy was smashing through mountains having sex.

I replied to this part-- "Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power." It suggests that Bonnie is weaker than fodder witches.

#23 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@cadencev2 said:

@rbt said:

@carter_esque: I have no knowledge on Super Buffy. What are her best durability feats?

@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Ever seen Man od Steel? Buffy was smashing through mountains having sex.

I replied to this part-- "Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power." It suggests that Bonnie is weaker than fodder witches.

I was replying to your question of best durability feats. her best feat was smashing mountains while having sex.

#24 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@cadencev2 said:

@rbt said:

@carter_esque: I have no knowledge on Super Buffy. What are her best durability feats?

@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Ever seen Man od Steel? Buffy was smashing through mountains having sex.

I replied to this part-- "Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power." It suggests that Bonnie is weaker than fodder witches.

I was replying tour your question of best durability feats. her best feat was smashing mountains while having sex.

Oh. in that case, this is spite. Clearly. No one in TVD verse is strong enough to do any damage to her.

#25 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:
@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Kol is one of the most inconsistent vampires in the series.

  • Damon has beaten him twice.
  • Jeremy and Elena (A rookie hunter and a new born vampire) killed him.

Her showings against him aren't impressive the way he has been jobbing.

#26 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:
@monsterstomp said:

@cadencev2: Because Bonnie can give Vampires aneurysms, she can also break bones through mystical means, use a limited form of telekinesis (force push). But that's all I know. Fodder witches are capable of dropping a group of Vampires with a single glare, though Bonnie has yet to display such power.

She was stomping Kol. An originals. Though I think Davina is more powerful.

Kol is one of the most inconsistent vampires in the series.

  • Damon has beaten him twice.
  • Jeremy and Elena (A rookie hunter and a new born vampire) killed him.

Her showings against him aren't impressive the way he has been jobbing.

Actually beaten? When?

You always forget to mention that there was a lot vervain involved. He would have easily slaughtered them. He didn't because Elena is under Klaus' protection and Jeremy was a hunter.

#27 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: First time he fought Damon, Damon had just interrupted Kol crushing Matt's hand. Damon throws him off a building and snaps his neck rather easily. Next confrontation, Kol hits Damon with a wooden baseball bat, Damon incapacitates Kol again.

With the Jeremy and Elena vs Kol: Kol had a plan to cut off Jeremy's arms. So what Elena was off limits, she's a vampire and can survive a neck snap. Kol was jobbing so much in that fight it wasn't even funny. Its rather inconsistent considering he slaughtered a bar full of vampires.

#28 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: First time he fought Damon, Damon had just interrupted Kol crushing Matt's hand. Damon throws him off a building and snaps his neck rather easily. Next confrontation, Kol hits Damon with a wooden baseball bat, Damon incapacitates Kol again.

With the Jeremy and Elena vs Kol: Kol had a plan to cut off Jeremy's arms. So what Elena was off limits, she's a vampire and can survive a neck snap. Kol was jobbing so much in that fight it wasn't even funny. Its rather inconsistent considering he slaughtered a bar full of vampires.

Not sure about the first encounter but second one was not fair at all. Damon pretended to be koed and then staked him. We all saw what happened when they met again in same episode.

He did incapacitate her by stabbing her. She got out of it. And he almost cut off Jeremy's hand. If Elena had not interrupted and doused him with vervain water. Vervain was the only reason he died.

#29 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt

Not sure about the first encounter but second one was not fair at all. Damon pretended to be koed and then staked him. We all saw what happened when they met again in same episode.

Yeah. 1 out of 3 fights Kol wins against a much weaker vampire. Damon didn't pretend to be KO'd at all.

He did incapacitate her by stabbing her. She got out of it. And he almost cut off Jeremy's hand. If Elena had not interrupted and doused him with vervain water. Vervain was the only reason he died.

How many vampires in the entire series incapacitate another vampire by stabbing them in the stomach? Kol was jobbing from start to end.

#30 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@MonsterStomp: Damon did pretend to be down. Or I need to watch the episode again. It wasn't a fair fight anyways. It was like sucker punching someone. He had one shot at it and he aimed it right. And Kol again defeated Damon in the bar.

Jobbing is not the right word. He was playing foolish. He could've snapped Elena's neck but he didn't. That was his mistake. This really didn't imply inconsistency. Just PIS. Incositency would've been him unable to defeat Elena or something.

#31 Posted by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Wait, so if I kicked someone in the nads in some random unsanctioned fight, its a cheap shot? No. Damon got Kol fair and square. If anyone cheap shotted anyone, Kol cheap shotted Damon. Doesn't change the fact that Damon stomped Kol in their first encounter.

It wasn't PIS at all. Kol's low showings are more consistent than his high showings. I honestly don't see why you can defend every damn vampire in the series.

#32 Posted by RBT (4524 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Wait, so if I kicked someone in the nads in some random unsanctioned fight, its a cheap shot? No. Damon got Kol fair and square. If anyone cheap shotted anyone, Kol cheap shotted Damon. Doesn't change the fact that Damon stomped Kol in their first encounter.

It wasn't PIS at all. Kol's low showings are more consistent than his high showings. I honestly don't see why you can defend every damn vampire in the series.

And I've already given you two instances where Kol stomped Damon. I'm gonna have to watch the episode again to comment on that fight.

Yes, it was PIS. Plot demanded Kol to die in that episode, so he made a mistake. Instead of snapping Elena's neck, he stabbed her to the wall, thinking it'd hold her and left. This is exact definition of PIS. Could he have snapped Elena's neck and cut off Jeremy's arm. Easily. This is not inconsistency at all.

Same reason why you think every vampire in the series is inconsistent except for Elijah, which is not the case.

#33 Posted by Freddy_Krueger666 (98 posts) - - Show Bio

Supee Buffy

#34 Posted by SSJLozza (1528 posts) - - Show Bio

Buffy curbstomps obviously

#35 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (337 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I hear she should stomp, but it should be noted that originals are indestructible and can't die by any means but a white oak stake

#36 Edited by Cable_Extreme (9699 posts) - - Show Bio

That many vampires, why can't she fall from compulsion? And there is no way to slay an original vampire unless you have the white oak dagger. I understand Buffy's superiority in every aspect, but compulsion shouldn't be looked over.

#37 Posted by superdoom (239 posts) - - Show Bio

if buffy is immune to compulsion, telepathy, illusion casting or magic, this is spite.

if not, Silas, Divena or any vampire solos

#38 Posted by Wyldsong (5842 posts) - - Show Bio

That many vampires, why can't she fall from compulsion? And there is no way to slay an original vampire unless you have the white oak dagger. I understand Buffy's superiority in every aspect, but compulsion shouldn't be looked over.

Buffy has resisted compulsion.

#39 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

From what I hear she should stomp, but it should be noted that originals are indestructible and can't die by any means but a white oak stake

So they wouldn't even die by decapitation? That's pretty impressive durability for a vampire.

#40 Posted by Cable_Extreme (9699 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Edited by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

She resisted Dracula, who's arguably one of the oldest and most powerful vampires in the Buffy-verse in the season 5 premiere. And then there was this:

#42 Edited by MonsterStomp (19880 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@monsterstomp said:

@rbt: Wait, so if I kicked someone in the nads in some random unsanctioned fight, its a cheap shot? No. Damon got Kol fair and square. If anyone cheap shotted anyone, Kol cheap shotted Damon. Doesn't change the fact that Damon stomped Kol in their first encounter.

It wasn't PIS at all. Kol's low showings are more consistent than his high showings. I honestly don't see why you can defend every damn vampire in the series.

And I've already given you two instances where Kol stomped Damon. I'm gonna have to watch the episode again to comment on that fight.

Yes, it was PIS. Plot demanded Kol to die in that episode, so he made a mistake. Instead of snapping Elena's neck, he stabbed her to the wall, thinking it'd hold her and left. This is exact definition of PIS. Could he have snapped Elena's neck and cut off Jeremy's arm. Easily. This is not inconsistency at all.

Same reason why you think every vampire in the series is inconsistent except for Elijah, which is not the case.

Its not PIS man. It was far more consistent for Kol's low showings. What I find PIS is when Kol comes back from the dead and give Elena a beating, just because the director thought that Kol shouldn't have died that way. You know Stefan snapped his neck? Lol.

Every vampire save for Stefan, Elijah, Caroline, and Alaric are the most inconsistent vampires.

#43 Posted by Wyldsong (5842 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by UNKNOWNUSER101 (337 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: he is a bit of a jobber, Damon incapacitated him twice and Stefan snapped his neck like nothing

#45 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (337 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: I'm not sure if they can survive decapitation because nobody has tried it/aren't strong enough to do it but it has been heavily implied nothing but a white oak stake could kill them

Furthermore when klaus threatened Michael( another original ) that his hybrids will rip him apart, Michael replied that they couldn't kill him though

#46 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

@carter_esque: I'm not sure if they can survive decapitation because nobody has tried it/aren't strong enough to do it but it has been heavily implied nothing but a white oak stake could kill them

Furthermore when klaus threatened Michael( another original ) that his hybrids will rip him apart, Michael replied that they couldn't kill him though

So basically, this battle boils down to Buffy v. the Originals. How could she win unless she figures out how to kill them?

#47 Edited by UNKNOWNUSER101 (337 posts) - - Show Bio
#48 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#49 Posted by Carter_esque (6447 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#50 Posted by Vengeance_13 (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Buffy wins. The only problem here is that the Originals cannot be slayed. However they can do nothing to hurt her. She would be able to bfr the pretty easily.