Roah vs Monkey D. Garp

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Fight takes place at the Dark Tournament

Win by any means

No BFR

No one is bloodlusted.

Who wins and why?

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prime Garp, or current?

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@nelomaxwell: Garp doesn't have enough feats, and the ones he got don't really put him on Roah level.

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prime garp destroyed 8 mountains just warming up for his chinjao fight.

roah feats?

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@cooldes said:

prime garp destroyed 8 mountains just warming up for his chinjao fight.

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Scans?

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#8 mr_ingenuity  Moderator

@cooldes said:

prime garp destroyed 8 mountains just warming up for his chinjao fight.

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Scans?

Stated on panel nothing more.

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#9  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

@princearagorn1 said:

@cooldes said:

prime garp destroyed 8 mountains just warming up for his chinjao fight.

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Scans?

Stated on panel nothing more.

like kyubi's mountain busting tails?

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I'm not gonna debate in this one since its my thread. Plus I'm burned out from debating in Carter's thread.

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#11  Edited By Cooldes

@princearagorn1: @mr_ingenuity:

only stated on panel, yes, but he then flattened Chinjao's head, that was shown to crack Very Large entire landscapes in half, and said to have continent busting power.

so Garp fodderizing a few mountains isn't very far fetched.

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@cooldes said:

@princearagorn1: @mr_ingenuity:

only stated on panel, yes, but he then flattened Chinjao's head, that was shown to crack Very Large entire landscapes in half, and said to have continent busting power.

so Garp fodderizing a few mountains isn't very far fetched.

Very large landscapes like? I'd need some time to get used to current one piece, I've read it, but I re-read carefully at the end of each arc..

Fodderizing mountains does seem seriously far fetched. Destroying, yes. I'd put him on mountain busting scale. But casual mountain bust? No..

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@princearagorn1: he actually states in the scan that it's a continent...

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...but we can't be completely certain, so i just used the safe "large landscape" to show how powerful he is.

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@cooldes said:

Very large landscapes like? I'd need some time to get used to current one piece, I've read it, but I re-read carefully at the end of each arc..

Fodderizing mountains does seem seriously far fetched. Destroying, yes. I'd put him on mountain busting scale. But casual mountain bust? No..

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Garp in his prime has taken on the strongest characters in onepiece. Garp has this.

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@homicidalmaniac: @ratava: @cooldes: I do remember the scan, thanks anyway. Now here is what I'm trying to say:

1. He explains that the name is given to the island due to the specific property. And he headbutts it. Doesn't mean that his headbutt is continent level lol, if someone explained about why sabody island is called so and hit it hard, does it mean that he's hitting island level? no.

2. The ice breaks from hitting it at a single point with huge force. Like driving a nail, which causes cracks.. While the crack is pretty large, the size could be very well from property of ice, than from actual force.

3. And still, it's not really mountain level, is it? Imagine the same headbutt on a mountain. Do you think it would really destroy one?

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#18 the_stegman  Moderator

Sometimes I hate the speculation fallacies One Piece makes. "Oh, Chinjao is SAID to be a continent buster" when he has never actually shown it, and no, that ice land is NOT a continent, not by a long shot. Same goes for Whitebeard and his "World shattering" punches.

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Yeah Prime Garp would win. Prime Garp, Roger and prime Whitebeard could likely be 3 strongest OP characters

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#20  Edited By homicidalmaniac

@the_stegman: Well the Ice wasn't regular Ice.Fire and regular brute force wasn't working on the that type of Ice that Don cracked.

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#21  Edited By homicidalmaniac

@princearagorn1: I let Cooldes debate against you for now.I get to your post in a hour.

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#22 the_stegman  Moderator

@the_stegman: Well the Ice wasn't regular Ice.Fire and regular brute force wasn't working on the that type of Ice that Don cracked.

I know, it even said it in the scan above, the only way to crack it was to concentrate a lot of pressure into one spot, doesn't mean that feat equals to a continent bust.

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@the_stegman: Go to my Hody Jones Vs Don Chinjoa thread and see what I said about the feat

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Garp

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@the_stegman: Well the Ice wasn't regular Ice.Fire and regular brute force wasn't working on the that type of Ice that Don cracked.

Well, ice that doesn't melt isn't really a problem, we don't know the scales of techniques used on that. Like haku's ice wouldn't melt by fire either, but doesn't mean madara's majestic destroyer wouldn't blast through it..

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#26  Edited By Ratava

@princearagorn1 said:

1. He explains that the name is given to the island due to the specific property. And he headbutts it. Doesn't mean that his headbutt is continent level lol, if someone explained about why sabody island is called so and hit it hard, does it mean that he's hitting island level? no.

2. The ice breaks from hitting it at a single point with huge force. Like driving a nail, which causes cracks.. While the crack is pretty large, the size could be very well from property of ice, than from actual force.

3. And still, it's not really mountain level, is it? Imagine the same headbutt on a mountain. Do you think it would really destroy one?

That´s all true. The Problem with Garp is that he is probably one of the most powerful op-chars but he lacks in the actual feat departmenet. What feats do we have from him?

throwing a gigantic Cannon Ball with ease

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showing Marco who´s the boss

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and now the "fight" with Don Chinjoa. The rest is hearsay, reaction from the people when he appears and old stories so basically for a battle he is a bad choice.

But anyway you have to love him ^^

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@ratava: I know Garp, he was actually one of my top 3 characters for quite a while, along with mihawk.. And I know he's strong. But putting him as a casual mountain buster seems a bit too much..

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@princearagorn1: I'm not saying he's a "casual" mountain buster.

I'm saying it's well within his power to have busted those 8 mountains before fighting chinjao, seeing as to what he then did to chinjao's "continent" busting headbutts.

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@ratava: I know Garp, he was actually one of my top 3 characters for quite a while, along with mihawk.. And I know he's strong. But putting him as a casual mountain buster seems a bit too much..

Your´re right. We need a One Piece spin-off "Garp the Hero" :P

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@princearagorn1: Those pirates use axes the and the ice was undamaged.Anyway,Garp hit the point of Don head and Garp one shot/almost killed Don with one punch.

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@ratava: no, we need a one piece spin-off

"what Really happened to Sabo"

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No one for HKN? Do I have to do this all by myself in my own thread?

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@nelomaxwell: i thought everyone said him..

garp doesn't have la feats bro

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@cooldes: It seems like they're undecided.

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@cooldes said:

@ratava: no, we need a one piece spin-off

"what Really happened to Sabo"

He joined the Rev-Army after Dragon saved his life and in the future he will be Luffys last Crewmember :P

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#36  Edited By Ratava

@nelomaxwell said:

It seems like they're undecided.

As is said there are only 3 or 4 feats for him

The Problem with Garp is that he is probably one of the most powerful op-chars but he lacks in the actual feat departmenet. What feats do we have from him?

throwing a gigantic Cannon Ball with ease

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and

showing Marco who´s the boss

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+ the one with Chinjao which was posted earlier

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Garp goes kaboom District 9/Elysium style