Rinnegan Squad VS Bleach Team

No he didn't. He held him in place with a limbo clone. If anything the showing implies he couldn't have tagged Sasuke with just his own speed. Not that Sasuke is even faster than Grimmjow in raw speed.

@decaf_wizard: @highaccuser:Oh alright then.

Alive Madara with one Rinnegan avoided Flying Thunder God Slash which is teleportation and stomped him eventually.

@andr413: Tobirama also has no speed feats on this level.

Dude, the shinigamies are living souls, so the soul rip wasn't going to work from the beginning.

Genjutsu is not in the character in this guys to use and even if they use it a Zanpakuto and a Shinigami work in the same way of a Bijuu and his Junchuuriki, so Genjutsu is useless against this guys.

Anyway: Yamamoto goes bankai and there is no more Rinnegan.

@highaccuser: How fast so you think Sasuke is? Better yet, how fast do you believe Grimmjoww to be?

In what sense? Exact number of machs? Because I don't really have a specific figure.

Teleportation>>>>>>most of Bleach characters speed combat

That's like saying Nightcrawler is faster than Bleach characters. Teleportation has nothing to do with overall combat speed. Besides Madara didn't react until after Tobirama ported behind him and it helps that he had several forms of precog at the time.

@andr413 said:

@highaccuser said:

@andr413 said:

Sasuke has teleportation which can blitz most of Bleach characters, Tobirama could make a crater inside Uchiha's hideout with a mere one finger, even though the writer did not show their speed with blur, blitz, etc, he said that it would be actually blur but somehow he didn't want to do that. Naruto> Bleach in terms of speed.

The version of Sasuke we're talking about didn't have teleportation. How is making a crater a speed feat? And I just think Bleach had more high end speed feats earlier on, nothing about art. Honestly Madara's best speed feat is blitzing Sage Mode Naruto but he's not as fast as Vizard Ichigo, who both Aizen and this version of Ichigo can easily blitz.

Might Guy with 8-gates activated distorted the space as stated by Madara himself which capable to blitz shinobi alliance and keep up wiith 7-Gates Guy.

But Espada-tier ceros distort space also... When Base Form Grimmjow did one and attacked Ichigo with it the space was being distorted for a while. Difference is Madara showed no durability against this space distorting attack while Ichigo did.

@thecrystalball: That was a mistranslation, I knew someone would bring this up.

It said the Cero distorted the atmosphere, and pretty much anything moving close to or beyond Mach 1 is capable of doing that.

@etheral_dreams:

No, it said the space is being distorted. They've been ripping space open since the first chapters in Bleach. For example something like Kamui isn't a problem in Bleach, while it's concidered impossible to counter in Naruto.

@thecrystalball said:

@andr413 said:

@highaccuser said:

@andr413 said:

Sasuke has teleportation which can blitz most of Bleach characters, Tobirama could make a crater inside Uchiha's hideout with a mere one finger, even though the writer did not show their speed with blur, blitz, etc, he said that it would be actually blur but somehow he didn't want to do that. Naruto> Bleach in terms of speed.

The version of Sasuke we're talking about didn't have teleportation. How is making a crater a speed feat? And I just think Bleach had more high end speed feats earlier on, nothing about art. Honestly Madara's best speed feat is blitzing Sage Mode Naruto but he's not as fast as Vizard Ichigo, who both Aizen and this version of Ichigo can easily blitz.

Might Guy with 8-gates activated distorted the space as stated by Madara himself which capable to blitz shinobi alliance and keep up wiith 7-Gates Guy.

But Espada-tier ceros distort space also... When Base Form Grimmjow did one and attacked Ichigo with it the space was being distorted for a while. Difference is Madara showed no durability against this space distorting attack while Ichigo did.

This one is a live being combat speed. Juubi's bijuu bomb could distort the space too, but can he move and distort the space? No.

Teleportation indeed involve in combat speed especially someone who relies with teleportation jutsu like Minato. He in alive form with one rinnengan tanked an attack from Gaara and seven Bijuus and only lost his right hand.

Grimmjow if actual is ligthning speed or higher. if your talking about the Arrancar Arc Ultrasonic

The downplay is unreal.

Bleach fanboys constantly exaggerate(Ichigo swatting Byakuya's million petals even though no time frame was given) and misinterpret(most common example is that most fanboys don't realize Gin lied about his mach 500 bankai) speed feats or use nfl hax(like the almighty's powerset to counter EVERYHTING, Barragan aging ANYTHING, x axis ability to shoot through ANYTHING, etc..) to prove Bleach is superior to Naruto, One Piece, or other series.