@torrussilver: So you ignore scaling and statements ?
If that is case raditz is only multi mountain lv
Ichigo stomps
He is large planet level or universal depending on how you look at the cosmology and ywach was about to destroy 3 realms which are either 3 planets or 3 universes depending on how you scale the cosmology
Naruto is planet level for harming Kaguya as teen and almost killing her with super tailed beast ball Rasenshuriken and surpassing her as adult
@uchihaslayer: You're post doesn't make sense. Raditz destroying a multi mountain sized area has nothing to due with statements. He literally tanked Piccolo's moon vaporizing attack effortlessly and a Kamehameha wave and special beam canon that were actually stronger then the moon busting attack. Plus you're whole scaling on other verses is fucked up and is faulty. Ichigo doesn't scale to Yhwach's feat and Naruto is also not planet level since ETSB doesn't scale to Kaguya's normal damage output. If Raditz wanted to he could've easily make moon level and above worth of destruction, nothing suggests that he can't.
@uchihaslayer: he is neither large planet level or universal. No planet busters in bleach or celestial bodies being destroyed. Keep spouting the same wank as other bleach fanboys. Its pathetic.
@uchihaslayer: You're post doesn't make sense. Raditz destroying a multi mountain sized area has nothing to due with statements.
It does when you were just saying how saying on panel feats are all that Matters when by that type of nonsense raditz would only be multi mountain. Simply why you can’t ignore statements and scaling.
He literally tanked Piccolo's moon vaporizing attack effortlessly and a Kamehameha wave and special beam canon that were actually stronger then the moon busting attack.
And Ichigo tank Ywach Reiatsu black power that can destroy all 3 worlds and Naruto > Kaguya who can destroy her planet
Plus you're whole scaling on other verses is fucked up and is faulty.
Your understanding of scaling is more fucked than anything
Ichigo doesn't scale to Yhwach's feat
Ichigo cut through Ywach so he scales
and Naruto is also not planet level since ETSB doesn't scale to Kaguya's normal damage output.
Kaguya does scale to ETSB. It’s made of allied shinobi chakra which is not even more than Half of Kurama who amped them all. Or even half of Kaguya chakra. Gaining either Naruto or Sasuke power she would’ve been able to replicate ETSB without allied shinobi. Hokage Kurama Naruto > Fused Momoshiki > Momoshiki > Kaguya > ETSB = Planet lv
Momoshiki ate a chakra fruit that drained a sun and made it start dying when toneri was about to bust the earth but absorbed too much energy from the sun
If Raditz wanted to he could've easily make moon level and above worth of destruction, nothing suggests that he can't.
You can’t cherry pick logic And apply it to a narrative that only supports your ideal winner that you have in mind. If you say on panel feats are all that matters raditz is only multi mountain lv. Until you accept scaling and Statements you should shut your mouth. Because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
@momoshikiwin4: you didn’t debunk anything all you did was say dumb shit like delta is afraid of entering village and code is scared of random jounin you are stupid
@torrussilver: He doesn’t need to. It’s typical fashion for Hero to stop Villan plan before it comes to fruition. Just like goku stopping Saiyan Saga Vegeta Galick Gun which is stated to be planet lv. Think of Vegeta Galick Gun as ETSB. Galick Gun doesn’t scale immensely above vegeta. He just has to charge to release it.
@torrussilver: Dragonball to Z only has 2 bloody moon busting attacks (Roshi and Piccolo) that’s good but overwanked. 99% of feats in between and after those, don’t even compare mate. So how are you going to say “Screw AP” with your down right gobby claims but say characters in your own verse have AP. Seems hypocritical mate.
It does when you were just saying how saying on panel feats are all that Matters when by that type of nonsense raditz would only be multi mountain. Simply why you can’t ignore statements and scaling.
It has nothing to due do with statements just known and normal scaling that makes sense.
And Ichigo tank Ywach Reiatsu black power that can destroy all 3 worlds and Naruto > Kaguya who can destroy her planet
Tanked? lol Ichigo didn't tank anything serious coming from Yhwach. Ichigo does not scale to ywach he was getting man handled. Plus the power that Ywach was about to use to collapse the worlds is way more then was he was outputting while fighting Aizen and Ichigo.
Ichigo cut through Ywach so he scales
There was only 2 times that Ichigo "cut through" the first one Yhwach was under an illusion and didn't know what was actually happening plus it didn't do anything to him and the second one was only due to antithesis. So no he doesn't scale.
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Kaguya does scale to ETSB. It’s made of allied shinobi chakra which is not even more than Half of Kurama who amped them all. Or even half of Kaguya chakra. Gaining either Naruto or Sasuke power she would’ve been able to replicate ETSB without allied shinobi. Hokage Kurama Naruto > Fused Momoshiki > Momoshiki > Kaguya > ETSB = Planet lv
The amount of chakra has nothing to do to how strong or how much AP here punches have. That amount of chakra only scales to how big the ETSB is gonna become. Plus fodder Boruto characters don't scale to EOS ones.
Momoshiki> Kaguya, yet the fodder was matched by Darui consistently.
You can’t cherry pick logic And apply it to a narrative that only supports your ideal winner that you have in mind. If you say on panel feats are all that matters raditz is only multi mountain lv. Until you accept scaling and Statements you should shut your mouth. Because you don’t know what you’re talking about.
I'm not cherry picking nothing goofy. You're the one who doesn't know how to scale and think Boruto characters> Naruto ones.
Horn Of Salvation Ichigo scales to SK Juha People think he doesn’t scale because SK Juha ability Almighty is hard to beat even if you are close or relevant in same tier
Ichigo tank black Reiatsu from SK Juha
And wasn’t injured that much he was fine going into true bankai but stopped because SK Juha fear it’s power stacked on with horn of salvation form
Horn of salvation Force Juha to use almighty Hax because there is no room for error since SK Juha without almighty would get GG by Horn of salvation Or True Bankai
SK Juha doesn’t need almighty god beat true Shikai Ichigo but he Needs almighty to fight Horn of salvation or true Bankai or them both fused
The strength of chakra is relevant to ETSB which was going to explode not grow further than the black ball that was shown
Kaguya already has that lv of chakra
Momoshiki already has that lv of chakra
Hokage Naruto already has that lv of chakra he and Sasuke already surpassed Kaguya
Naruto or Sasuke can take on Kaguya
Which is believable when Naruto already could hold his own against her in every dimension even if he is weaker she was not more than 3 x stronger or else she would’ve stomped them as badly as Juubi Jin Obito vs Hashirama / Tobirama the gap isnt as big
People think he doesn’t scale because SK Juha ability Almighty is hard to beat even if you are close or relevant in same tier
Ichigo tank black Reiatsu from SK Juha
And wasn’t injured that much he was fine going into true bankai but stopped because SK Juha fear it’s power stacked on with horn of salvation form
You didn't show him tanking anything. The only thing you showed is Yhwach praising hi power. Which doesn't indicate he scales to him especially the words feat. just like Whisis seen praising Goku's powers but he obviously doesn't scale to Whis.
The strength of chakra is relevant to ETSB which was going to explode not grow further than the black ball that was shown
Kaguya already has that lv of chakra
Them having that amount of chakra doesn't mean that her punches and attacks are planet level, it just scales to how big and powerful her etsb will be... Plus ETSB is hax it doesn't even scale to AP.
Momoshiki already has that lv of chakra
Yet it was matched physically by Darui. Yet other Otsutsuki think that juubi jin have crazy amount of chakra. While Hashirama witness Naruto's and Kurama's power and was laughing saying its almost as much as him. Doesn't matter either way her having that amount of chakra wouldn't make him planet level since even Juuni had planet levels of chakra yes its best attacks were only in the country level ranges.
Anything else you said is irrelevant. Keep using game feats to support your mindless headcanon.
@torrussilver: Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
Momoshiki is higher in the clan above Toneri and ate a chakra fruit from his tree that drained energy from the sun and cause it to begin to die and start process of a supernouva
Even old kages can harm and restrain Juubi doesn’t mean they are stronger same with kages and momoshiki who is planet lv just like Kaguya but kaguya also hurt by lesser tier also I don’t take you serious after our PM you proved you are a idiot thinking a group of no name jounin can beat code or delta when Base Sasuke manhandle dozens of no names
Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
This literally proves that Toneri doesn't scale to the attack and can't even contain that much levels of energy. Proving that Energies strong enough to destroy earth>> Toneri
Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
This literally proves that Toneri doesn't scale to the attack and can't even contain that much levels of energy. Proving that Energies strong enough to destroy earth>> Toneri
actually false, toneri was never planning to blow up the planet
it was clear he wanted to surface wipe it
"destroy" there is metaphorical and just means wipe the shinobi out since hagoromo "created" the world
hagoromo didn't literally create the planet, he created the shinobi
same with toneri, he wasn't literally going to destroy planet, he was going to destroy mankind and then wait for enviroment to stabilize
Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
This literally proves that Toneri doesn't scale to the attack and can't even contain that much levels of energy. Proving that Energies strong enough to destroy earth>> Toneri
actually false, toneri was never planning to blow up the planet
it was clear he wanted to surface wipe it
"destroy" there is metaphorical and just means wipe the shinobi out since hagoromo "created" the world
hagoromo didn't literally create the planet, he created the shinobi
same with toneri, he wasn't literally going to destroy planet, he was going to destroy mankind and then wait for enviroment to stabilize
Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
This literally proves that Toneri doesn't scale to the attack and can't even contain that much levels of energy. Proving that Energies strong enough to destroy earth>> Toneri
Toneri is moon level but his charged attack is planet level And higher with Sun
He didn’t care about earth stabilize or anything that was when he was planning to crash moon into planet
He did the end of film feat by summoning the Tenseigan eyeballs that still had power and combined it with his own and made that blog of energy to destroy the planet but overloaded by absorbing energy from the sun too
His jutsu was only intended for absorbing Naruto energy not the sun energy too
Momoshiki is planet lv he can actually contain energy from a sun
His chakra fruit drained a sun to turn into a red star and go into stages of a supernouva
Toneri was going to Blow up the planet with energy from the sun but overloaded before he could launch the attack
This literally proves that Toneri doesn't scale to the attack and can't even contain that much levels of energy. Proving that Energies strong enough to destroy earth>> Toneri
actually false, toneri was never planning to blow up the planet
it was clear he wanted to surface wipe it
"destroy" there is metaphorical and just means wipe the shinobi out since hagoromo "created" the world
hagoromo didn't literally create the planet, he created the shinobi
same with toneri, he wasn't literally going to destroy planet, he was going to destroy mankind and then wait for enviroment to stabilize
Toneri definitely was going to blow up Earth he didn’t care about stabilizing planet at that point he lost his bride
The stabilizing planet thing is from after moon crashed which was going to destroy the surface
“Sages world” is just a synonym for planet earth you dummy
Of course Hagoromo didn’t create the planet he just spread chakra across the surface to humans
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