Poison Ivy vs Mantis

Can Poison Ivy beat the Celestial Madonna?

• Post-Crisis, N52 and Rebirth
• 616 Mantis
• Fight Starts at 40 feets apart
• Random encounter
• Location: Planet Earth
• Morals Off / Bloodlusted

Mantis pressure points

Knowing Mantis she’ll start with fight trying to to h2h and Ivy will either crush her with building sized plants or strangle her

If mantis goes for TP immediately she can win, but Mantis doesn’t usually do this in character

@emmafrostxmen: i was thinking that maybe Ivy can control Mantis or Mantis control Ivy since both are part plant and have chlorokinesis, well Mantis does not have green skin...the green skinned Mantis' are plant simulacrums (sp?) that are not the real character in any way.

Snoop Dog smokes both. :o

@cruelrain: Mantis has better range but Ivy’smind control feats are better (Superman, Wonder Woman, Flash, Green Lantern, the rest of the planet)

Not sure

Ends in goofy alien sex.

Leaning towards Ivy

@emmafrostxmen: posion ivy is not a traditional telepath,she uses plants matter in people's body to control them. Mantis is also a precog so she can't be surprised by ivy. Mantis has gotten in to the mind of unum who is a composite beings made from hate of trillions upon trillions of races,she stomps in telepathy

Also if you know mantis as much as you claimed you will know she doesn't jump into fights without calculating,she's a tactician with knowledge of the future, with precog she will know everything poison ivy will do and counter that accordingly or before ivy thinks of even doing them. Mantis wins 9/10 .