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who wins and why?
it seems people on here seem to think there is a substantial difference between new 52 Wondy and Supes and their previous incarnations, so just interested in peoples thoughts.
New 52 Wonder Woman vs Blue Marvel
@demonknights: Yes, they were weak from getting their butts kicked by two amped up Kryptonians that would ALSO get their butts kicked by Blue Marvel. But your logic is flawed (see the scan below). The Kryptonians intended to block Superman from direct contact from the sun so he wouldn't heal from the beating he just took, and they intended Wonder Woman to get radiation poisoning and die. Why? because she is not as durable as they are. Superman wrapped her in his cape when they split ONE atom, to save her life. He took the chance that he could survive the blast (barely) but was not going to chance it with her. Why? Because she is not as durable as he is. Whereas Blue Marvel survived a nuclear blast, while deliberately flying the Polaris missile away (this is hydrogen bomb, which is way, way, WAY more powerful than the atomic blast of splitting ONE atom). If regular nuclear energy hurts WW, Blue Marvel's anti-matter blasts will end her. New 52 Wonder Woman can not take Blue Marvel, unless he's been retconned too as weaker (like her).
@demonknights: No sir, wrapping her up in his cape while simultaneously tanking an atomic (i.e. splitting one atom) blast was a speed feat for Superman. The scans below show that in the instantaneous release of energy he is able to wrap her up in his indestructible cape. Yes we see in one moment the cape on his back, and the next, it is fully wrapped around his beloved. This is the culmination of the sacrificial love narrative the story is telling. And as for the strength of the blast, what Superman caused with Diana's sword was an atomic (fission) blast with very little material. Superman correctly calls it an atomic explosion, as opposed to a thermonuclear (fusion) explosion of the type that Blue Marvel reportedly tanked from an armed Polaris missile (which would have contained a MUCH higher yield than the leftover atoms in an old reactor core).
Don't downplay this scene for the sake of a Battle Forum argument. It takes away from the powerful love story narrative this series is building upon.
@pperspectiveandreality: I say Blue Marvel would beat those two amped Kryptonians because Kryptonians are susceptible to radiation. Without this weakness they wouldn't have powers, as simple solar radiation wouldn't be absorbed by their cells. And it's apparently photo-synthetic in the sense that Superman is weakened when not in direct contact with solar radiation. I like how New 52 has explored that in various issues and used this fact for dramatic purpose even in Superman/Wonder Woman #06. It's their greatest weakness (Red, Green, Blue, and other types of Kryptonite radiation). Blue Marvel is described as a living anti-matter reactor. look up what happens when anti-matter and matter come in contact (spolier: annihilation of both). This makes Blue Marvel's very existence a contradiction, but hell, it's a comic book right? To destroy every particle of a Kryptonian he just has to blast them with their equivalent mass of antimatter. BTW, he can discharge the energy omnidirectionally. Anyway, you can have your opinion, but I think I supported mine pretty well.
No one will post Blue Marvel scans. Let me do it.
@agent41: You posted "nothing said that he warpped her before the explosion,and WW was very weakened during that nuclear blast so nothing suggests that at full power she couldn't take it,she only gets access to her full powered taking off her bracelets so she was extremely weakened and without her full power(bracelets were still on),and this is also before her new upgrade after becoming god of war,so again nothing suggests new 52 WW can't take a nuclear blast."
Agent41, did you type this w/o reading my post? The scans show them splitting the atom setting off the atomic reaction, the next illustration shows the blast caused by the release of energy, and the next illustration shows that Superman, already crispy fried and seriously injured, STILL had the strength and speed to fully wrap up Wonder Woman in his cape. The next issue shows how messed up Superman is, and how Diana is in MUCH better condition than him because she was wrapped up in his indestructible cape.
She is still injured and requires medical care in this issue, but Superman did what he did, nearly sacrificing himself, just to make sure the woman he loves survives. In the earlier issue, Diana herself was questioning if they could survive this in issue 6. They got their asses kicked physically - sir, this doesn't reduce the material strength of her durability. Her "power levels" weren't lower. She and Supes just got beaten by temporarily MORE powerful opponents. Blue Marvel, or hell, the Hulk, could tank a blast like this unconscious. In WWH, Ironman warned against nuclear weapons because they'd strengthen the Hulk, not hurt him. You get what I'm saying? This is a test of her durability, akin to her material strength. Look what this explosion did to Superman? As far as her "upgrade" to the god of war, she describes her "upgrade" in Superman/Wonder 007 as well (see my 4th scan). She didn't say "I am now more powerful, etc, etc". Anyhow, Superman Ko'ed the Sun God, and Wonder Woman beat up on Olympians in her pre-war god state. I hope you can see that I'm not arguing against WW because I dislike the character. New 52 WW is one of my favorite DC characters. But I don't experience cognitive dissonance when I see her get hurt, or acknowledge that there are meta humans more powerful than her.
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