Naruto and ichigo vs madara and aizen

Battle conditions:

Naruto is end of pain arc and starts in sage mode, ichigo is end of soul society arc and starts in bankai

Madara is edo madara, Aizen cant use the hogyoku

Chakra = spirit energy

All are in character

Battle is on the naruto earth

Naruto can go to any nine tail cloak form and can bond with kurama if he chooses to

Ichigo can go to any hollow form

Naruto and ichigo have full knowledge of aizen and madara

VS

Madara> Naruto

Aizen> Ichigo.

Team two wins.

Anyone on team 2 can solo

Not if they toy around and let naruto and ichigo go into their nine tail and hollow forms.

And toying is something madara always does against opponents he is physically superior to, even though he has no idea how strong they can become or what type of powers they might have. Madara wants narutos nine tails for the gedo statue. But he is physically superior to this version of naruto, so he will toy with him anyways.

He will also toy with ichigo physically. So he will just knock them around and camp in susanoo, he won't try to hit them.

Aizen on the other hand will toy with opponents he is physically superior to as well, but wont toy as long. Aizen already knows how strong ichigo would be if he goes full hollow, so he will make sure he doesn't go full hollow. Madara knows how strong naruto would be in his nine tail states.

Aizen might have an issue with how much madara toys around though, so they may end up turning on eachother if they cant work together.

What is BASE aizen doing about this VL ichigo or this 6 tails naruto?

Madara rofl stomps VL ichigo and 6 tails naruto here though.

Base aizen one shit haribel who is around VL ichigo lvl

Lol what? That would mean harribel is above 3rd release ulquiorra

Base aizen would get fodderized by 3rd release ulq.

Btw this isn't the same VL ichigo. This is a end of soul society arc VL ichigo. The one that fought ulq was a VL ichigo who had trained almost the whole arc.

So the VL ichigo in this battle should be far weaker than the VL ichigo that fought ulq.

Madara solos.

Horrible mismatch, both aizen and madara can solo.

What if madara and Aizen cant get along AND they let naruto and ichigo get too powerful?

Either of team 2 Solos

@j-man717: ...There is no too powerful, madara can deal with 6 tails naruto, and the White that would take control of this ichigo is fodder, you made a mismatch.

Even a sage chakra amped 6 tails naruto AND a VL ichigo? This ichigo is fodder but VL is always a ridiculous multiplier.

@j-man717: You keep going for the most ridicolous outcome, the fight Will last a few seconds if they are Lucky, both of them go down at the first strike.

Madara solos everyone.

Team villian

Lol. Clearly you have no idea what you're talking about, seeing as youve even resorted to simply ignoring my last question.

Quit stalling and address my question or just admit im right. And you're wanking base aizen hard asf.

Team 2, please lock.

Ulquiorra has 2 release not 3 and he stated himself that they were stronger than him. No espada can touch base aizen they never even saw his ascended forms.

Thats a hollow ichigo btw not VL ichigo. VL ichigo is hueco muendo arc

Mismatch, Team 2 stomps.

A weak version of naruto and ichigo vs madara and aizen lol. Yeah this needs to be locked.

Why? Ichigo can go VL in this battle if his hollow takes full control over his body.

Ulquiorras base was on par with full masked ichigo in end of hueco mundo arc

Full masked ichigo would fodderize 1st release grimmjow, seeing as he was holding back the entire fight against grimmjow in hueco mundo when in his full mask form.

And ulq was equal to that same full mask ichigo. And ulq has two more huge power ups. Both of which were complete fodder to end of hueco mundo VL ichigo.

Basically

End of hueco mundo VL ichigo >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2nd release ulq >>>> 1st release ulq >>>> base ulq = full masked end of hueco mundo ichigo >>>> 1st release grimmjow.

Ulq is espada 4 and end of hueco mundo VL ichigo is leagues above him. So what does that tell you?

It means end of hueco mundo VL ichigo is leagues above the #1 fully released espada.

End of hueco mundo VL ichigo >>>>>>> End of soul society arc VL Ichigo.

So even a end of soul society arc VL ichigo should be above the fully relased #1 espada.

Base aizen would get owned by the 2nd or 1st release ulq, let alone the #1 espada.

Sorry but base aizen is far too weak for even a end of soul society arc VL ichigo, get over it.

Wait a minute.

End of hueco mundo arc ichigo at 50% power in his masked form casually knocked down 1st release yammy who was called "espada 0" meaning 1st release yammy is above all other esoada in even their released forms, yet some how ichigo when in a much weaker state than his VL state was able to casually knock him down.

Either a plot hole, or yammy was physically suppressed. Clearly there was no reason for him to he suppressed, so clearly that ichigo knocking that yammy down at all, let alone casually was just complete PIS.

Madara can stomp this version of Naruto, even if he goes six tails mode.

Aizen already stomped this version of Ichigo. If Ichigo goes into VL mode Ichigo has a chance, but only if Aizen doesn't use kyoka suigetsu.

Aizen low difs Naruto, if Naruto goes six tails mode he may have some trouble.

Madara stomps Ichigo, if Ichigo goes into VL mode Madara brings out perfect Susanoo and stomps him with that.

Any way you look at it team villains stomp. Aizen being able to troll them with kyoka suigetsu just makes it even worse.

Base aizen needed KS to take down the espada that he did lol. Although he did take them down pretty easily and quickly.

So never mind base aizen should actually be stronger than any the espada he beat all at once.

Not sure if hes on yammys level when he becomes espada 0 though.

But seeing how easily base aizen took down the espada that he took on all at once using KS, base aizen should at least be on espada 0 yammys level.

But then again, even a end of SS arc VL Ichigo is above the #1 espada by a small amount, so base aizen should be similar to a end of SS arc VL Ichigo.

True. Although I disagree that madara would need PS to take down ichigo if he went VL here.

@j-man717: He would at least need a full body Susanoo.

Edo madara = edo SM hashirama physically lol. Seeing as they physically stalemated.

Edo SM Hashirama is at the very least 10x BM war arc naruto (pre rikiudou chakra control amp), seeing as edo hashi stated that BM Naruto almost had as much chakra as himself. And SM amp is somewhere from 5x-10x amp.

And BM war arc Naruto (pre rikudou chakra control amp) at full strength smacked away 5 bijuu bombs by blitzing them, bijuu bombs which were large mountain level.

Basically edo madara shits on BM war arc pre rikiudou chakra control amp naruto, who is multi large mountain level physically with just his taijutsu alone.

Butterfly aizen was scared of multi small mountain level physicals.

And Butterfly aizen is so many leagues above base aizen that its retarded.

So even BM war arc pre rikiudou chakra control amped naruto shits on butterfly aizen physically and easily too.

Basically Edo madara alone very casually shits on naruto and ichigo here even if they use all their hollow and bijuu powers.

Base aizen is complete fodder to the likes of madara here but would is on par with 6 tails naruto here or VL Ichigo here.

Since 6 tails naruto here would be more or less = to VL ichigo here .

And base aizen is similar to VL Ichigo here.

Team 2

No.

Again, VL Ichigo here is more or less = to 6 tails naruto here. And base aizen is similar to VL here and 6 tails here.

But base aizen is fodder to edo madara as are 6 tails naruto here and VL ichigo here

@j-man717: Aizen is stronger than edo Madara if he doesn't use susanoo.

This is Edo madara. EMS Madara is the one that fought hashirama to the death. EMS Madara is physically weaker than Edo madara and by a wide margin too.

Seeing as Edo hashirama was stated to be slightly weaker than alive hashirama.

And sage Edo hashirama stalemated edo madara. Thus, edo madara must be stronger than EMS madara.

Ems madara was below base alive hashirama but by how much is unknown. So not sure if EMS madara is so much weaker than alive base hashirama to the point that he's weaker than 6 tails naruto.

Also depends which 6 tails naruto. Beggining of shippuden 6 tails naruto is far weaker than war arc 6 taild Naruto or pain arc 6 tails naruto.

No hes not dude. I already explained how eve butterfly aizen (whose leagues above base aizen) is leagues below BM war arc Naruto (who is leagues below Edo madara).

@j-man717: BM Naruto smacking bijuu bombs away that destroyed mountains doesn't make his strikes mountain level. That's like saying a human who knocks grenades away before they explode have grenade level strikes.

Edo madara >>>>>>> BM Naruto >>>>>>> buttefly aizen >>>>>>> base aizen

Its not that. Its because bijuu bombs movement speed is great enough that the force behind one being rammed into a large mountain would destroy it.

A bijuu bomb has been shown to cross a country in seconds.

That alone proves bijuu bombs are propelled at large mountain level force and can destroy large mountains on impact. Meaning bijuu bombs dont even have to detonate to destroy large mountains, they just have to slam into them to destroy them.

NarChigo wins

@j-man717: I'm not stalling anything, you made stupid points to support your theory when everyone else told you that this is a mismatch, wanking aizen? Lol, this base aizen effortlessly Blocked bankai ichigo slashes with a finger and later casually blitzed a way stronger version of ichigo, fix your mismatch.

1) don’t use the ten tails’s bijuudama to scale for other bijuus. The whole point of it shocking Madara and hashirama(2 people who had owned the 9 tails in the past) was due to how fast and how much range it had.

No other bijuudama compares to it in any way.

It didn’t cross the country in ”seconds”. In that time frame we saw everyone acknowledge its path of travel, including Shikaku and then he took a moment to talk to the other HQ members after thinking about their predicament, then was able to think up a plan and relay it back to the allies in that time. And even then, they still had some time before it hit.

1) Fair enough. But there's still proof a bijuu bomb is large mountain level without detonating on or near the large mountain.

For one, PS sword just being twitched to the side chopped off large mountain tops. Imagine what a full fledged directed swing from one or two arms or PS would do to a large mountain from close up or even far away.

And yet BM Narutos avatar stomped full body susano. PS isnt a lot stronger than full body susano.

So PS is very very casually multi large mountain level. But BM Narutos avatar shouldnt be very far from that. And BM Naruto isn't a lot weaker than his own BM avatar. So BM Naruto should be at least 5x multi large mountain level without kurama avatar or any jutsu.

So the bijuu bombs naruto deflected were each large mountain level physically when propelled, just the force of them was each large mountain level, meaning they wouldn't have to detonate on or near the large mountains for them to be destroyed.

So bijuu bombs are large mountain level and BM Naruto smacked and blitzed 5 at full power very quickly.

And BM Naruto is fodder to edo madara .

Base aizen gets raped by BM Naruto, let alone Edo madara.

Bruh wtf is this scaling lmao

Am I getting trolled?

Clearly you cant come up with a counter lol, since you know im right. Nice try though.

No matter how you look at it edo madara is leagues above BM Naruto, BM Naruto who is at least 5x large mountain level.

Again. PS=> BM avatar >> full body susanoo >>> BM Naruto out of BM avatar

And PS is leagues beyond large mountain level. So BM Naruto even out of his BM Avatar isn't far from PS level.

Meaning BM Naruto is also well beyond large mountan level.

And again edo madara shits on bm naruto.

So Edo madara even without any susanoo form is so vastly superior to base aizen that its not even funny.

Base aizen is leagues upon leagues below small mountain level. Bm Naruto is well above large mountain level. Edo madara is leagues above BM Naruto.

Edo madara >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> base aizen

@j-man717: Full body Susanoo is not almost as strong as perfect Susanoo, and BM Naruto is not almost as strong as his full sized avatar. And you are contracting yourself. You said BM Naruto is leagues below Edo Madara, but now you are saying Naruto have his full body Susanoo trouble.

Ichigo and Aizen starts fighting and the other two die as collateral damage lmfao

Okay okay lol. This is how i see it.

Aizen > Naruto

Madara > Naruto

Ichigo > Madara

Ichigo >= Aizen

EDIT: Alright, i did't pay enough attention, i fucked up, my bad. Let me do this shit again.

Yeah team 2 definitely wins here, quite effortlessly even. Neither Naruto or Ichigo can do anything to the other two. At this point in both stories Aizen and Madara are leagues above the protagonists. This makes me question why this battle thread was even made. This should've been obvious.

Clearly you're a die hard bleach fan if you think this version of bankai ichigo is anywhere near edo madara lol

@j-man717: I didn't pay attention then.

Yes it is dude. The PS is the same size as the full body susano, and only has the addition of armor, whereas full body susanoo doesnt. So it's like 2x more durable at most lol.

And BM Narutos avatar tackled the full body susanoo and cracked it too.

And BM Naruto is similar durability as his kurama avatar, because if he wasn't, then Kurama avatar would be an outrageous amp, which clearly it isnt, given feats.

BM Naruto blitzed and smacked the bijuu bombs of 5 bijuu lol, meaning he can blitz the bijuu with out his kurama avatar. And when he went in his kurama avatar against those same 5 bijuu he was stomping them but needed full power to do it.

So clearly BM Avatar isnt far above BM Naruto as they performed similarly against the same 5 bijuu.

PS = Bm avatar >> Edo madara >> Full body susanoo >>> BM Naruto