Master Chief vs. General Grievous

They're both bloodlusted, are at their primes, and can have no outside help. John is in his Mark VI MJOLNIR armor and is equipped with an MA5B assault rifle, an M6D pistol, four fragmentation grenades, four plasma grenades, and a bubble shield. Grievous has his four lightsabers, his custom-made DT-57 heavy blaster pistol, and four thermal detonators. They both have one week to do background checks on each other and get to know their battlefield. The fight takes place here:

Who wins?

From what I've heard, eu grievous would stomp. Than again, not the biggest star wars fan myself so I can't say for sure.

@edude117: Can Chief at least get an energy sword?

Blood lusted for a week, mater chief dies of a heart attack.

This is spite.

And Grievious gets his lungs crushed by Windu. It's a stalemate!

But in all seriousness, Grievious should beat Chief here.

Especially at MCs current gear he is given. What the fuck will a bubble shield a 2 pistols do agents a guy who can deflect bullets with his mind and only uses melee weapons?

This is spite.

Grievous can't do any of that he's a cyborg with enhanced speed strength and durability along with having mastered all known Lightsaber forms.

Spite, Give MC better weapons [forerunner would be nice and a energy sword]

Guys this is obvious spite in MC's favor...

If it's movie Grievous then I say Chief. Don't know much about EU Grievous but if he's anything like EU any starwars character then he's OP and stomps.

From what I know of Chief, Grevious should wreck him.

Grievous converts Master CHief in tiny little cubes

@wdc said:

The bubble shield will help him a lot. If he's caught outside of cover, he can activate it in order to protect him from Grievous's blaster or his grenades.

Also, Chief is a god with his pistol and his assault rifle. That's why I think Chief does stand a chance. Because, like you said, Grievous is mostly melee. Chief would have a range advantage on him.

And a big ole' LOL goes out to the people who say that I should give Chief an energy sword. Why in the world would Chief use an energy sword against a guy who has been formally trained by a Sith Lord in lightsaber fighting and has FOUR freakin' lightsabers. Chief isn't retarded. He'd know to stay away from him after doing a background check. And, also, Chief was never trained how to fight with the energy sword. He usually just implements training he got for fighting with conventional melee weapons and/or just flings the thing around. So an energy sword would be useless.

Another thing: I'm pretty sure a couple of plasma grenades could take Grievous out if they're placed in the right spots.

I feel like Grievous wins as well, but I don't think it's as much of a stomp in his favor as y'all make it out to be.

I'm leaning more towards John-117 in this one, lightsabers inherently perform poorly against super-sonic projectile based attacks. Grevious ins't actually a force user - just trained in physical combat techniques. John-117 has both good aim and Grevious has several glaring weaknesses in his armor - one of which was exploited in the movie to kill him, easily. A single round, shrapnel or bit of flame hitting any number of the weak spots in Grevious's armor would end the battle. John-117 also has the advantage of the energy shield that does deflect plasma based weaponry (Lightsabers as well.) His armor enhances his strength, speed and reaction times - and since he has the full dosier on Grevious - knows exactly how and were to hit him to end the fight. Grievous is fast - but he still suffers the limitations of whatever reflex speed is normal for his species.

However, if we use Clone Wars animated series (not the CG one); then it would be a closer match - still handed by a narrow bridge margin to John-117, but that Grevious is a super-fast ambush predator and master strategist - something ignored in the Lucasfilm movies - as he is not that quick of foot - nor that smart....

John-117 wins, the prep-time helps, but the numerable weakpoints in Grevious's cyborg body and supersonic projectiles are the real killer.

can light sabers block bullets?

I;m a big chief fan but you are wrong on so many levels.

Chief absolutley gets annihilated. The lightsabers deflect lasers, they are going to melt the Rifle rounds, and his Pistol is useless. He can hope for a plasma grenade kill and if he's depending on that, then his SOL.


Bubble shield is retarded because the thing only keeps out PROJECTILES, not lightsabers.

I would imagine so, since a lightsaber is like 4000 degrees or something, not deflect but melt the projectiles.

@ironshinobi88:

yeah but the molten meal could keep going

@cjdavis103: It would, but then again molten metal isn't going to penetrate grievous's armor. And it def wont burn him.

It really isnt.

@glubgluby:

there are weak spots in the armor that chief can go for and if grevos thinks it's a blaster he can get hit by molten bullets and that can cause some serious hurt .

now onto can a light saber cut though a Spartans armorer and shields

Grievous wins only because he's faster, stronger, and more durable. This ends up being similar to a Batman vs. Master Chief fight. Batman has more sh*t, but Chief wins because of his better physical stats. It's a closer battle than you guys think, though. Especially if Chief has Cortana, in which case his one week prep time would be priceless and his reaction time and tactical abilities would be highly increased. Grievous takes this 7/10 times regardless.

@ironshinobi88 said:

Actually, you're wrong on so many levels. The bubble shield isn't against his lightsabers, dude. It's against his blaster and thermal detonators. Also, if you watched Ep. III, you'd know that Chief's weapons aren't useless. Another point, by the way: If the lightsabers melt through the bullets, wouldn't the melted metal just keep going right into Grievous's face or whatever?

Haha it would be the most intense week of his life

@texasdeathmatch said:

Lol Never mind, Grievous wins this 10/10 times. xD

@thebelltollsforthee: @cjdavis103: about the melted bullets,

first off, grievous isnt an idiot, hes going to know the difference between a blaster and a gun.

secondly, A light saber is plasma, which burns at around 4,000 degrees celsius, (thats only hydrogen plasma)

lead boils at about 1,700 degrees celsius. so the bullets would probably be vaporized.

As to chiefs shields, it would definitely prove an obstacle for GG

@glubgluby:

light sabers cant cut though outer light sabers or solid steel doors ( they can but it takes a long time ) so his shields will stall the light saber and the armorer can tank a few cuts

and how would he know if he has only ever seen blasters before

I'm just not sure it can instantly boil the bullets

Grievous

@cjdavis103: The armor is definitely a problem as force fields can resist lightsabers to a degree.

And yes, it would instantly vaporize the bullets, plasma is HOT. and its never really specified what kind of plasma is present in a lightsaber, for my calculations i used hydrogen plasma, which is one of the cooler forms of plasma. Others can burn as hot as 16,000 degrees. The bullets are not a factor, GG can defend against them. And as for the actual durability of chiefs armor (not his shields) Lightsabers can cut through basically anything except certain lightsaber resistant materials (mandalorian iron, cortosis, etc) but the cutting speed depends on the density of the object being cut. hence why it takes time to cut those blast doors. The reason behind this is that When cutting through dense material, the immense electromagnetic field generated by the blade causes resistance rather than letting solid matter enter and interrupt the arc. This gave the blade a feeling of being solid when immersed in dense material. So will GG one shot master chief? definitely not. But can he beat him in a drawn out battle? yes.

John calls down a SMAC strike from orbit. /battle

Can a lightsaber cut the energy shielding? also the armor is made from a unique titanium alloy not steel. not designed to defend against pure plasma or the lightsabers but it does a damn good job tanking plasma shots. Chiefs defense is solid.
His body cant disjoint or spin 360deg like the generals freaky robobody but it doesn't need to. his agility and inability to feel fear will get him up close and personal to shove those lightsabers back down the generals throat... or whatever he has in place of one.

Also which one of you fools called chief a "human"? the man went through a forced evolution, hes basically a forerunner now biologically speaking. and I don't even want to start on what the gravemind did to his conscience and psyche.

@glubgluby:

one thing peope are forgetting here is Chief is fast he can run a t high way speeds if he needs to he can put some serious distance between him and gervious and he is trained in unconventional war fair he can burry a frag grenades as a booby trap and lure grevos there

Seriously, Chief wins this.

@cjdavis103: Chief is fast but EU grievous is too, maybe not as fast in traverse speed, but in reaction timing grievous is either on par with MC or better.

First, the OP says no outside help, so no SMAC strike. If outside help was allowed, Grievous would stomp.

Star wars space ships >>>USNC ships

A lightsaber is very similar to a energy sword, both are plasma based blades. energy swords can cut through spartan armor just fine so it stands to reason that it would be able to carve MC just fine.

And MC's agility < Grievous's agility

Grievous can land 20 strikes a second with his lightsabers, chief is strong, definitely on par with grievous, but the thing is, if he gets close and tries to force grievous to stab himself, that wont end well. Grievous is either as strong as MC or slightly weaker, either way MC wont be able to force grievous to stab himself instantly, GG will resist. And MC only has 2 arms, GG has 4, if MC tries grappling, he WILL lose.

Doubtful.

@glubgluby:

but that transverse speed is what will give Chief the win as he will be able to easily keep his distance and all it takes is one lucky bullet to bring down Grivous

If gun shots go through Chiefs armor then a laser sword would cut through the head

@leonkarlen123:

they don't that's just gameplay

MC wins.

Grievous stomps. He light saber skill is far above any skill Master chief has.

Of course! Lasers from Star wars,a re much more powerful than bullets.

Look it's obvious that Grievous is stronger and faster then MC but MC is more durable due to his shields a well placed bullet or a sticky grenade should put him down.

@nick31898:

but bullets are solid not energy

It doesn't matter, a light saber can cut through metals stronger than led, if anything, the bullet would just split into 2.

@nick31898:

but the light sabers bigger then the bullet it cant cut the bullet only melt it and that does not tell me if it stops the molten metal

No, grievous can block laser shots at light speed, so he can definitely block bullets, also, his agility, and fore, means he can push away, or dodge a grenade.

Well if i is bigger than the bullet, than i should just deflect back, away from Grievous.

@nick31898:

when has a light saber deflected a bullet?

Grievous is quite a bit faster than Chief in travel speed as well. His appearances suggests he's around Mace Windu's level of speed.

"Grievious moved so swiftly that he seemed to teleport from the window to half a meter in front of Gunray"

--Taken from Revenge of the Sith

And before Grievous was a cyborg he was a general who specialized in marksmanship with slugthrowers. So yes..he can tell the difference between a ballistic rifle and a blaster.

@juiceboks:

how far was that? because unless that was good distance chief can do the same for a lot of characters