Living Tribunal VS Scathan The Approver

@jigen879: do you really need to ask this question when a simple google search yields all the answers you can see with such multiversal beings ? do you really need to ask this question when you can easily find the scans of living tribunal and scathan ? why do you need to ask this relatively known matchup of multiversal beings when numerous threads like these had tackled this before ?

@kyrees: scuse me i don't undestand your answer who wins ?

@jigen879: excuse me but you need to use the internet at this point to search for this obvious answer. no point in asking it here again.

@jigen879: Bad matchup, do you even have any knowledge of the characters you're using?

LT is the second most powerful being in the Marvel universe.

@darkgenex: listen, but living tribunal can't to beat Protege, while Scathan can beat protege, so scathan is more powerful than living tribunal right ?

@jigen879: you already know the answer at this point so why even create this thread ?

@jigen879: Yeah, and Thanos can't beat squirrel girl. (Sarcasm)

Thanos with IG > Protege, LT removed the IG effortlessly, as something leagues below him.

Protege already beat LT.

Scathan > Protege > LT > IG

@hulkman123: Thanks for the laugh.

Ok, believe what you want.

scuse me but what is the true story of protege and LT?

However, the answer to the thread is not obvious as you think, because I know scathan won a being living tribunal can not win, how is it possible ?

Scathan does not approve of LT.

Jmarshmallow

Well Scathan did succeed where Living Tribunal failed (i.e. beating Protege).

@jwwprod: the only thing Scathan did was the thumbs down sign.

@darkgenex: LT is not the second strongest being in Marvel, PR Beyonder is above him, HOTU Thanos is above him, PR Molecule Man and the Fulcrum is above him.

He is right.LT failed.

Scathon has like 1 feat (granted hes only appeared in 1 comic so its pretty understandable) but still he only has 1 feat

@maninthemountain said:

And that's what defeated Protege, he disapproved Protege and won.

His feat is probably in the top 5 best feats in all of fiction.

@kidman560 said:

Yet his 1 feat dwarfs most other feats from most other characters.

not necessarily we have no idea if that was normal power levels or if there were special circumstances all we know is he did not approve

scuse men it's very strange scathan a celestial more powerful than lt how it possible ? Maybe the story is retconned or no men correct ?

The story haven't been retcon,because the Marvel Handbooks confirm the events to happen in LT bio.

@homicidalmaniac: ok men so the facts are: living tribunal fails to stop Protege instead of scathan wins protege, but one question, in the history living tribunal had been stripped of his powers or protege duplicated his powers ? Because if he did not have his powers, it is likely, as well protege would steal his powers, but is it so or what happened I don't understand very well bah ?

Protege scopied LTs power which combined with the other powers he copied gave him the power to beat LT. Then scathan basically went "Lol nope" to protege and depowered him.

Scathan.

I find it funny that everyone acknowledges Scathan is superior, yet LT is still dominating in the poll

Thats because LT is above him.

Scathan's feat doesn't put him above LT because there isn't enough evidence to support the claim that he is more powerful than LT.

• World Breaker Hulk can't do anything to Iceman
• Iceman can't affect Storm
• By those two statements, does that mean that Storm can stomp World Breaker Hulk?

Considering that Living Tribunal was aware about Scathan and summoned him to defeat Protege, more than anything would suggest that Scathan's skill set worked ideally against a villain like Protege. By no means is there enough evidence to suggest that Scathan is above LT, especially considering that LT has constantly been stated to be above The Celestials.

If anything the Protege arc is a feat for LT, considering he is capable of summoning beings beyond existence to defeat villains that are able to get the edge on him.

Living Tribunal.

Scathan disapproving doesn't make him more powerful, also it was later rectonned to not the real LT, supposedly.

@deathbyants: Your post 27 makes a lot of sense. Sometimes a certain skill set wins not overall power

@sophia89: After supposedly.

The only thing i hate whenever Scathan is brought up is that people act like its strange that a Celestial(which are far and away the most powerful baseline beings in the entire MU) could have power along the lines of the LT but have no problem believing that someone like Protege or pre retcon MM or any other number of humans(who are baseline to Celestials like ants are to humans) could also have power to rival the LT. I mean if there is one race in the entire MU which could potentially have members who could match the LT in power its the Celestials. He is insanely powerful even by Celestial standards much like how Franklin Richards is powerful by human standards. Get over it already.

Scathan.

Living Tribunal

QFT

Well thought out, logical, and brings points to defeat "but Scathan could and LT couldn't" argument ,that is the Only bases people have to even suggest Scathan is above LT.

The goddamn Jester Approves. Now....

@jestersmiles said:

@deathbyants said:

@reactor said:

I find it funny that everyone acknowledges Scathan is superior, yet LT is still dominating in the poll

Thats because LT is above him.

Scathan's feat doesn't put him above LT because there isn't enough evidence to support the claim that he is more powerful than LT.

• World Breaker Hulk can't do anything to Iceman
• Iceman can't affect Storm
• By those two statements, does that mean that Storm can stomp World Breaker Hulk?

Considering that Living Tribunal was aware about Scathan and summoned him to defeat Protege, more than anything would suggest that Scathan's skill set worked ideally against a villain like Protege. By no means is there enough evidence to suggest that Scathan is above LT, especially considering that LT has constantly been stated to be above The Celestials.

If anything the Protege arc is a feat for LT, considering he is capable of summoning beings beyond existence to defeat villains that are able to get the edge on him.

QFT

Well thought out, logical, and brings points to defeat "but Scathan could and LT couldn't" argument ,that is the Only bases people have to even suggest Scathan is above LT.

The goddamn Jester Approves. Now....

Its also stated that LT is above humans but that didn't stop one human, namely Protege from becoming LT's equal if not superior in the future. Its too unclear to really try and say that LT is above Scathan or vice versa in the overall hierarchy of power. Scathan may act as some sort of omniversal judge who is beyond even LT in the greater scheme of things. It is obvious he is considered to be well up there given the high amount of respect granted to him by all the other cosmic beings gathered including LT during the trial. They all seemed to hold him in the absolute highest regard and acknowledged that his will to either approve or disapprove of something was equal to the final say in the matter.

This is hard i think living tribunal wins

Dr. Doom stole PR Beyonder's powers and was just as strong as him. He tried to fight Beyonder and lost. HOTU Thanos is the only one in the list who's stronger then him.

@champion99: LT was also powerless before pr Beyonder on numerous occasions in sw2. He didn't even try to stop him from doing multiple things that he disagreed with him doing.

He could have, he just chose not to.

@champion99: Its not a given that he could have done anything to pr Beyonder. If anything, it seemed to be clearly demonstrated that he had no power over him. I am also pretty sure that LT was among those cosmics trying to get him not to kill off Death.

No, he couldn't have. The Living Tribunal and all cosmic abstacts of the multiverse attempted to launch an assault against the Beyonder but failed. Then the Beyonder made the Living Tribunal and all the others "tremble". The Living Tribunal was also said to be a microbe to the Beyonder, and Molecule Man was stated to be, by the narrator, mightier than the Living Tribunal, hence why he was the only being in the entire multiverse that even stood a chance against the Beyonder.

The Living Tribunal, after the Beyonder erased Death from the multiverse, acknowledged that there was nothing he could do about it. He accepted the fate of the multiverse as he had no power of the the Beyonder, who was literally larger than the multiverse itself and millions of times more powerful than the entire multiverse and every force/being within it combined.

Why the people still have the wrong idea that Franklin and Protege are normal humans?

Really where is the proof that it get retconned people ask you for the proof not your opinion

Never.

Scathan does not approve.

Scathan as far as we can tell can only deal with anomalies like Protege, he has no other showings, I don't think he has the ability to dissaprove of TOAA's defender of the Omniverse.