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#1  Edited By betacarotene

setting: new york 


FORGOT TO TYPE 'WARSUIT'.. supposed to be lexluthor w/ his warsuit vs. war machine ..... forum battle fail..
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#2  Edited By the creator

What equipment does Lex have (battlesuit) ?

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#3  Edited By betacarotene
the creator said:
"What equipment does Lex have (battlesuit) ?"
oh yeah i forgot to type WARSUIT my god.  LADIES, ITS LEX LUTHOR'S WARSUIT VS. WAR MACHINE
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#4  Edited By BIackFlash

War Machine wins . Even Batman could build better suits than Luthor Corp in his cave, Lex always had junk suits

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#5  Edited By King_Saturn
Lex might be able to win here
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#6  Edited By BIackFlash
King Saturn said:
"Lex might be able to win here
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with what? Kryptonite? a red light bulb? That junk doesn't work on marvel heroes. War Machine is like Ironman on steroids. Best thing Lex can do is try paying WarMachine not to attack him and try to bribe Jim Rhodes into taking a dive.
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#7  Edited By mira

War Machine wins.

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#8  Edited By King_Saturn
BIackFlash said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lex might be able to win here
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with what? Kryptonite? a red light bulb? That junk doesn't work on marvel heroes. War Machine is like Ironman on steroids. Best thing Lex can do is try paying WarMachine not to attack him and try to bribe Jim Rhodes into taking a dive."
Well if Lex has a BattleSuit... he maybe able to overpower War Machine... that Lex's Battlesuit has taken damage from some of DC's hardest Flying Bricks...
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#9  Edited By BIackFlash

Even with all Lex's attempts at cheating via red light bulbs or kryptonite, just about all Lex's battlesuit have still been ripped apart, rather easy many, many times. It's War Machine who has taken hits from the hardest hitters. Lex is a bit hyped because Superman elevates Lex's position by pulling his punches. War Machine and Stark fight people who never pull their punches. War Machine will own Lex worse than Ironman owned that guy with Taliban guy with a dish towel on his head

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#10  Edited By King_Saturn
BIackFlash said:
"Even with all Lex's attempts at cheating via red light bulbs or kryptonite, just about all Lex's battlesuit have still been ripped apart, rather easy many, many times. It's War Machine who has taken hits from the hardest hitters. Lex is a bit hyped because Superman elevates Lex's position by pulling his punches. War Machine and Stark fight people who never pull their punches. War Machine will own Lex worse than Ironman owned that guy with Taliban guy with a dish towel on his head"
I dont think so... Lex has some decent feats himself with the Armor
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#11  Edited By AtPhantom

I doubt War machine could annihilate several Omacs with a single blast...

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#12  Edited By the creator
BIackFlash said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lex might be able to win here
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with what? Kryptonite? a red light bulb? That junk doesn't work on marvel heroes. War Machine is like Ironman on steroids. Best thing Lex can do is try paying WarMachine not to attack him and try to bribe Jim Rhodes into taking a dive."
Lex's battlesuit has a lot more to it than weapons and defense systems designed to stop Superman.
Not only does it grant superhuman strength, it generates force fields and has shown the ability to fire energy blasts (definately lasers and potentially particle beams) that are not kryptonite based.
As AtPhantom has said, it was capable of downing Omacs.
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#13  Edited By bumnut

Have to go War Machine! Even though Luthor's suit was specifically designed to tango with Kal, War Machine his suit aint! Rhodey for the victory!

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#14  Edited By TruePwnge
@bumnut said:
" Have to go War Machine! Even though Luthor's suit was specifically designed to tango with Kal, War Machine his suit aint! Rhodey for the victory! "
War Machine owns this
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#15  Edited By Ziro

Lex.
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#16  Edited By BatDance

 Rhodey wins

OVERKILL  
 
First War Machine zaps up Lex's armor with some tech virus or just assimilates Lex's armor
 
After that easy opening
the fight looks something like this

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#17  Edited By vuviper
@bumnut said:
" Have to go War Machine! Even though Luthor's suit was specifically designed to tango with Kal, War Machine his suit aint! Rhodey for the victory! "
I actually think Luthor's suit is probably more powerful, but I'd say his lack of a helmet.....
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#18  Edited By capall

 
lex's suit should be able to absorb more punishment then warmachine's suit 
does anyone know the speed of lex's suit compare to warmachine's? (flight and reflex for combat)

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#19  Edited By crabtree

war machine wins

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#21  Edited By AtPhantom
@vuviper said:
" @bumnut said:
" Have to go War Machine! Even though Luthor's suit was specifically designed to tango with Kal, War Machine his suit aint! Rhodey for the victory! "
I actually think Luthor's suit is probably more powerful, but I'd say his lack of a helmet..... "
Pretty heavy head-shields though...
 
@AtPhantom said:
" I doubt War machine could annihilate several Omacs with a single blast... "
This is still valid. If he can sustain several punches from a pissed off Superman and annihilate several Omacs in a single blast, he's above War machine.
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#22  Edited By Precise

I'm going to go with Lex Luthor, his suit has been ripped open and destroyed. But it was against Superman level characters, higher then what War machine has been up against in my opinion., and as mentioned he was able to destroy several Omacs in a single blast.

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#23  Edited By marvelman20202

think of it this way marvel just owns dc in everything they do so there u go

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#24  Edited By AtPhantom
@marvelman20202 said:
" think of it this way marvel just owns dc in everything they do so there u go "
Um, yeah......... 
 
Let's see now, what do we have here? ......No.......... no........ no....... no..... no, uuu, this one is nice:
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#25  Edited By marvelman20202

ur just mad becuase u know its true 

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#26  Edited By AtPhantom
@marvelman20202: Sorry, didn't see you were new to the site, Welcome to the vine.
 
And no, it's not true...
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#27  Edited By marvelman20202
@AtPhantom: name one person that can beat scarlet witch
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#28  Edited By marvelman20202

also i say war machine would win because he would have the avengers to back him up

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#29  Edited By AtPhantom
@marvelman20202 said:
" @AtPhantom: name one person that can beat scarlet witch "
Anyone with a bit superspeed.
Flash
Superman
Wonder Woman
Liberty Belle
Orion
lLightray
Supergirl
Impulse
Despero
Martian Manhunter
The list goes on.
 
Then we get to the people who outpower her:
Spectre
Darkseid
Ion
Parallax
Phantom Stranger
Anti-Monitor
And 5-dimentional Imp
The list also goes on.
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#30  Edited By Samurai X
@marvelman20202 said:
" ur just mad becuase u know its true  "
You are an idiot
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#31  Edited By AtPhantom
@marvelman20202 said:
" also i say war machine would win because he would have the avengers to back him up "
No he wouldn't.
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#32  Edited By Samurai X

Ok then Lex would have the whole Secret Society and LOD backing him up

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#33  Edited By Son_of_Magnus
@marvelman20202 said:
"think of it this way marvel just owns dc in everything they do so there u go "


 
 

That is why Marvel was terrible this year and has the worst writers and artists working for them and DC is having one of the best years in Comic history
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#34  Edited By marvelman20202
@AtPhantom: oh no reality got destroyed and all of those people died
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#35  Edited By Samurai X
@marvelman20202 said:
" @AtPhantom: oh no reality got destroyed and all of those people died "
You are an idiot
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#36  Edited By The_Warlord

I can see it going both ways

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#37  Edited By marvelman20202

okay i have to admit dc is good but i really think marvel owns them character and storyline wise 

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#38  Edited By Samurai X
@marvelman20202 said:
" okay i have to admit dc is good but i really think marvel owns them character and storyline wise  "
And I really thing you're an idiot
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#39  Edited By BatDance

 
@betacarotene said:

LADIES, ITS LEX LUTHOR'S WARSUIT VS. WAR MACHINE "



 I think this is a bad idea for Lex, it actually might make his odds worse
If you said Lex plus KarateKid on a leash vs WarMachine I would say Lex
If you said Lex plus a clone of Bizarro vs WarMachine I would say Lex
 
but you gave him a damn suit, a machine with mechanical bits and electronics
 
Here's the issue, theer's too much A v B v C logic here
Lex beating Superman means nothing   
Monocle beats Superman
Encantadora and Banshee beats Superman
Batman beats Superman 
 
Does this mean that all these people automatically beat War Machine
Batman beating WarMachine!? Get Real!!
 
Also Lex usually cheats by having his suit emit artifical kryptonite or some other cheat code
So I don't think Lex's suits are that strong or that durable, especially since Lex often has ways to cripple Superman, and even a Superman radiated with green rocks usually just rips the Lex suit apart after 2-3 blows 
That's probably a disservice to Luthor and Luthor's suit is much tougher than 2-3 blows, but the Ironman suits are not junk. Even the old suits could soak up blows from Living Laser am enraged Hulk and even take a nuke and they had all kinds of gizmos as weapons
Maybe War Machine and Luthor's suit don't have much difference in power
So I think a slugfest between these two is extremely close

 
 The other arguement I would use is WarMachine is pretty updated in science, Ironman's suits were amped to crazy levels. He could control machines, control technology, he could inject people with virus, blink and hack into satellites, he could re-write codes in bombs, he could get nano bots to repair his own bones and tissue. Ironman before his armor was stolen and before he had his head fired was amped to crazy levels, he was becoming a full on technopath like Cyborg Superman
 War Machine could just jam up Luthor's suit and cripple it
 
I suppose you can argue Luthor would be too smart for that tactic, he would not get his suit jammed up and would out smart Jim
You can say Luthor has the brains in science and he has the bigger intelligence feats 
Jim Rhodes is just a military flyboy so  you can argue Luthor would not allow himself to get his suit taken over
 
However if its Ironman
Ironman was amped to deus ex machina levels, he could just look at Luthor's suit and get it too attack itself
He owns suits, Extremis was the full on technopath
 
 

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" Anyone with a bit superspeed.  "

I don't know about the "super-speed" thing. There's a funny thing about the ScarletWitch, 
when she's on her game she can be seriously amped so powerful that when her body and mind is in the gameI don't think anyone touches her
Wanda at full power she has this natural "probability aura" to protect her. 
She doesn't need to switch it on, her mutant gene is always there so expect Flash to trip over his own feet before he can blitz her. 
 
but I agree any Skyfather would own her
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#40  Edited By bumnut
@AtPhantom said:
" @vuviper said:
" @bumnut said:
" Have to go War Machine! Even though Luthor's suit was specifically designed to tango with Kal, War Machine his suit aint! Rhodey for the victory! "
I actually think Luthor's suit is probably more powerful, but I'd say his lack of a helmet..... "
Pretty heavy head-shields though...
 
@AtPhantom said:
" I doubt War machine could annihilate several Omacs with a single blast... "
This is still valid. If he can sustain several punches from a pissed off Superman and annihilate several Omacs in a single blast, he's above War machine. "

True this.  Why he's never incorporated a helmet, cause his heads shielded. Also why he can take punches from Superman without his head comming off, cause of the shield.
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#41  Edited By Red_Blade

Luthor stomps the hell out of WM 
one blast, and Rhodey is a pile of ashes
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#42  Edited By ComicStooge

Marvle and DC are both good companies...I like them both...
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#43  Edited By xan84

Do you guys thing Warmachine can take a punch from Superman ? Luthor stomps his ass.
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#44  Edited By OhTru

Luthor almost always built junk suits
Even with a Kryptonite power core and even with Luthor's suits blasting out red sun rads his suits have never really scored that much against Superman  
That's because they are "junk suits"
 
These Luthor suits are specifically built to tangle with Superman but Lex can barely score any wins against him
Heck even the Bat can beat Luthor's suits around
 
 
Lex for all his money and all his cunning wasn't really that good when it came to manufacturing war hardware.
War Machine gets the best stuff, its quality war hardware from the labs of Tony Stark
 "Rhodey," evolved into crazy Machine levels, the guy was going Extremis and becoming one with the machine. He may not have been as smart as Tony but the upgrades James Rhodes got gave him a lot of Tony's super Extremis abilities. I would be surprised if Rhodes didn't just blink and force Lex's technology and weapons to turn against him
that's the kind of crazy stuff they could do, they weren't just one-with-the-machine their powers had become deus ex machina 
 
  "Rhodey,"  suits were also designed to fighting many different opponents in multiple situations
"Luthors" suit is designed for one thing, fighting Superman and it usually doesn't do much of a job
You can be sure if "Rhodey" was preped with intelligence told Superman was weak against kryptonite and red sun rays, Rhodey would be doing far better in a fight than Lex did
Heck even the Bat does far better against Superman than Lex does
 
 
I give this to Rhodey his suit is a real war suit, designed for many people in real fights 
While its true Rhodey ain't as smart or as cunning as Lex, Rhodey's suit and body are way more powerful...he's like a mix between Skynet and one of Ironman's great suits
He can always just  deus ex machina  this and make Lex's weapons turn on himself

 

@Xan

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" Do you guys thing Warmachine can take a punch from Superman ? . "

Why where's Superman? 
Is he joining this battle to rescue Lex?
 
Lex typically kryptonite rays Supes and usually ends up fighting a depowered sissy in a cape and he still manages to screw up
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#45  Edited By Theodore

It's tough, it could go either way but I'm gunna say Lex because I like him more.

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#46  Edited By drkhwk2001

Lex is very smart but War machine armor is much better, so i'll give to WM.
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#47  Edited By xan84

OhTru  
 
The fact that Lex can take a punch from Superman wins this mach.
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#48  Edited By Theodore
@Xan: Yeah, Lex's armor can probably handle plenty of hits from War Machine. BTW, nice avatar... can't wait for that game
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#49  Edited By OhTru

 So Xan you've dropped back to the fail A vs B vs C logic
So Xan because Batman can take a punch from Superman means Batman owns Thor?
 
Let's face facts Lex can't take a punch from Superman, Lex Luthor's battlesuit can take a shot from a weakass Superman badly dewpowered by kryptonite radiation
 or his suit can take a punch from a Superman depowered by red sun rays.
Even if Lex faced a Superman at the peak of his power we also know boy scout Superman spends most of his life being nicely, not blood lusted etc and on any given he holds back....I would take any feats of shaking off blows from Superman with a pinch of salt
 
Rhodey however isn't a fragile human like Lex, he's a machine, he's lost a lot of his human side and he's half friggin Terminator, like Cyborg "Vic" Stone like some skynet creation and he comes with a bunch of super Extremis abilities that Ironman once had
 which means fighting "Rhodey" with tech is gonna be a really dumb idea
I wouldn't be surprised if Rhodey with no suit could actually survive a shot from a bloodlusted Superman, and hack up Lex Corp by just using his mind. That's how far Rhodey has evolved into machine territory
 
To Lex's credit he is way smarter, way more cunning, and ruthless than Rhodey
 
but bringing a battle suit to a fight to a guy who can control machines just by thinking about it that's a bad, really bad idea 
 
Lex can win this with prep, however taking a battlesuit to fight a guy who owns machines with his mind. That idea is only going to sabotage any chance Lex Luthor has at success

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#50  Edited By Theodore
@OhTru: This is true, but eliminate the fact that WM can control machines and it makes for a pretty sweet fight.