@odinsonnn:
"Thank you for avoiding that scan I generously posted of Mr. Godspeed getting stabbed in the heart. I'd also like to know where Flash is going to evacuate Earthlings to on an Earth full of Hulk's? He's not coming at you, and he's pointlessly carrying ppl around the planet: you might've just done the impossible and made Flash useless. Regardless, you're making excuses."
I didn't avoid it, I ignored it because it is irrelevant for the current debate.
Deathstroke was able to do it due to prior knowledge of Flash, which enabled him to set up a plan, so that he knew where Flash would be, namely behind him.
Hulk has no such prior knowledge, nor does he have strategic skills even close to those of Deathstroke.
Also, clearing the area of civilians, so that heroes like Superman and Martian Manhunter, don't have to hold back, is hardly useless. Not to mention that once he's finished evacuating the civilians from the nearby area, he can return to the fight, and take Hulk by surprise with an IMP.
"Strange was caught slipping when he realized he was endangering innocents (sound familiar to DC's predicament?). And despite all the damage--consecutively getting savagely impaled--Hulk (who saved the innocents himself) was still up, still in health, and yes, still proved too much for Zom. "
Since the DC heroes are neither stupid, nor desperate, enough to take on power they have difficulty controlling, the point of endangering civilians is a moot one.
Also, if sucker-punching someone, then continuously wailing on them while they are down, makes a person "too much" for the downed victim, then by your logic, any random person would, under the right circumstances, be "too much" for even the best fighters on the planet.
"The bottom line is that the nanobots were injected. They were designed to target his weakness; literally suppressing his powers (what makes that any different than using kryptonite besides that it hurts?). You brought the military attack up as if that was a bad thing. You're assuming it "negated the nanobots" and filled him with gamma radiation...what? No. For one, how can any type of help against the Hulk be a detriment? Second those were standard jet missiles; no radiation--let alone gamma LOL. What actually happened: Hulk got bombed, it reminded him of what happened on Sakaar, he got angrier *keyword*. What that means: healing factor increases and strength increases--which is exactly what happened and why he bounced right back. "
1. No, the nanobots were not targeting a specific weakness. They were meant to drain his source of power. There's a difference.
The equivalent(to use superman as an example) would be to cut Superman's cells off from the Yellow Sunlight in them, not targeting him with Kryptonite.
2. Are you even reading what I post?
I never said that the missiles were anything other than regular explosives. What I did say(and correctly so), was that the explosion from the missiles "caused a flashback to Caira, and her death". That flashback caused Hulk to get further enraged by the refreshed memory, which resulted in "sending more gamma radiation into Hulk's system, and flushing the nanobots."
Ignoring for a moment that the nanobots were sabotaged, it would have worked if the military hadn't messed up.
"Not a single one of those heavy hitters (aside from maybe BA) are on Clark's level. Not to mention they do not have unlimited strength (their sources are all finite), nor are any of them on worldbreaker levels. To give perspective: none of them could have worn the Sentry out."
Quite the contrary, all of them are(as I said) "roughly equal, or superior, to Superman in terms of strength."
And there is no need for "infinite strength", considering that Hulk's own strength is only "potentially infinite".
Also, Orion(debatable), Wonder Woman, and the Martians, are the only ones I listed, that have a finite source of power.
And considering that Superman, when he stops holding back, has considerably more impressive feats than WWH, and that all of them are "roughly equal, or superior, to Superman in terms of strength.", they are all on Worldbreaker levels.
"They knew Hulk was coming AFTER he pummeled Black Bolt"
Yea, I know. They had 24 hours to prep. Plenty of time to put together a coherent plan, if nothing else, then a plan to delay Hulk and get them more time.
"The man pummeled Black Bolt--in case you didn't catch that. Black Bolt whispering "Enough" at point-blank is enough quasi-sonic force to take out just about every DC heavy hitter (and below) individually."
1. Hulk pummeled a skrull, not the real thing.
2. Even with the real Black Bolt(who is more powerful than the skrull copy), a whisper would not be enough to take out the DC heavy hitters.
"You mentioned breaking off in teams was a bad idea but then only mentioned one (JL) of several overly created super teams in the DCU."
I only mentioned the Justice League, because they have ties to literally all of the other teams. I also mentioned Justice League because they are a brilliant example of the benefit of working together, rather than splitting up(as the Marvel heroes stupidly did).
"And like I said you can't forget we're talking about 10 WWHs. He may not have his warbound, which would make this much easier given their dynamics, but he has 9 other worldbreakers...for one world. At some point just about any advantage the DC heroes have (magic, pocket dimensions, silly bfr attempts) will eventually crumble; nothing you throw at this man will stop him. My claim still stands: 10 is enough. You've done nothing but point shave at every turn. Feel free to leave your response but just know this is my last one."
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You want concrete examples of how the DC heroes could stop them?
Let's say there are 10 WWHs
Each of the Kryptonians(superman, supergirl, powergirl), picks a Hulk, and hits them(flying) at high speeds. The Hulks won't register that they've been picked up until it's too late to prevent it. The Kryptonians then fly the Hulks into the core of the sun.
The three Kryptonians then pummel the Hulks until they revert to Banner(at which point, they get incinerated).
3 down, 7 to go.
Captain Atom picks a Hulk, and transports him into the Quantum Field, and deals with him there.
4 down, 6 to go.
Dr. Fate, Darkseid, Highfather, Etrigan and Orion, pooling their energy together, and working as conduits for their respective power sources, destroyed a universe. Dr. Fate, Etrigan and Orion, should be more than enough to deal with a Hulk.
5 down, 5 go to.
Captain Marvel and Black Adam work together and pick a Hulk, they grab him at high speed, and transport him to the Rock of Eternity. There, they pummel him down until he reverts to Banner, then Adam turns him into a fine bloody mist.
6 down, 4 to go.
The point should be starting to get across by now, I haven't even brought up the majority of the Magic users, Probability Manipulators, Reality Warpers, or high level Energy Manipulators.
Not to mention that each of them, can repeat their take-down as many times as it takes, the rest of the heroes just have to keep the Hulks occupied, which they are more than capable of doing.
And finally, you seem to be forgetting that Hulk will be holding back, just like he was in the WWH storyline(according to the Heart of the Monster storyline), for much the same reason. Namely, he doesn't want to hurt innocent civilians. And unlike Marvel's heroes, there is nothing about the DC heroes that WWH is particularly angry about(weakening him even more), since the DC heroes haven't actually done anything to him, prior to him arriving on earth to conquer it.
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