Hiro Nakamura vs. Zoom

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#1  Edited By MKF30

Ok, so who would win?  
 
Rules are both encounter each other randomnly, both try to K.O. or kill the other.  
 
Hiro has no limits or flaws here(meaning he's not limited or it won't affect his health like it did in Heroes after a while) 
 
Zoom can use his time manipulation, speed standard powers...[no-extra power or anything]
 
Battle takes place in NYC, the only two left in the World.... 
  
Can Zoom hit Hiro before Hiro uses his Time Travel and Stopping time abilities and chop off Zoom's head? 
 
Hiro Nakamura: 

 
 

Vs. 
 
Zoom: 

 
 

Who wins? Who has more power with time manipulation you think?

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#2  Edited By jflash94

Hiro
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#3  Edited By MKF30
@jflash94 said:
"Hiro "

I agree ^ but would be interesting lol
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#4  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Zoom

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#5  Edited By SSJ5_Goku-San

What's Hiro's feats?

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#6  Edited By Matezoide2

wtf? Zoom RAPES

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#7  Edited By Kastiel

I think Zoom is more willing to hurt someone way more than Hiro. But either way Zoom is more likely to win. Didn't Peter beat Hiro once before?

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#8  Edited By Zoom

Been done.  Or at least been talked about.  Zoom wins pretty easily.
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#9  Edited By mavfan626

hiro 
 
he can stop time and teleport at the sometime + he has a sword 
 
(wait are we talking about future hiro?)

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#10  Edited By kitsuneconundrum

Hiro has better time manipulation powers but I think Zoom has better reactions and thus the initiative so Zoom.

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#11  Edited By mavfan626

hang on hiro wins this easy  
 
not only can he stop time and teleport but he can go back in time, so if zoom went to hit him he could go back 1 minute and stab him with hes sword
 
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#12  Edited By ssejllenrad

Hiro. Just because of the fact of me being sick of zoom. He's a cool character, but I think he's been overused in battle threads. Frankly, this among the very few zoom threads that is not spite.

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#13  Edited By Green Skin

Would Hiro be able to time freeze Zoom?  I'm not so sure that he could.  Remember the episode where he first meets the speedster Daphne?  She was still able to move when he stopped time and they eluded that he may not be actually stopping time completely but drastically slowing it.

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#14  Edited By MKF30
@ssejllenrad said:

"Hiro. Just because of the fact of me being sick of zoom. He's a cool character, but I think he's been overused in battle threads. Frankly, this among the very few zoom threads that is not spite. "


Thanks, and believe me I hear ya...Zoom I'm pretty much sick of hearing about lol but figured since this has never been done (btw zoom) the only other thread was with Zoom vs. Sylar, Hiro) but not Hiro one on one so this actually hasn't been done before Zoom) 
 
But yeah I'll go with Hiro here because he can time travel...Time Travel>>Instant Time Manipulation, Hiro can just go back and kill or prevent Zoom from becoming Zoom and thus will never exist...
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#15  Edited By LT1085
@Green Skin said:
" Would Hiro be able to time freeze Zoom?  I'm not so sure that he could.  Remember the episode where he first meets the speedster Daphne?  She was still able to move when he stopped time and they eluded that he may not be actually stopping time completely but drastically slowing it. "
Continuity isn't the greatest on this show.
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#16  Edited By Hellos

Hiro may slow time to a standstill, but speedsters pre FTL could move around and interact with him there, while Zoom has run circles around people FTL already with his whacky time powers. Though if Zoom decides to not use his brain and lets Hiro BFR him to the moon or something along those lines then it could be a win for Hiro.  
 
So Zoom bar some kind stupidity on his part or Hiro's powers having some sort of plot power over Zoom.
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#17  Edited By Zoom
@ssejllenrad said:
"Hiro. Just because of the fact of me being sick of zoom. He's a cool character, but I think he's been overused in battle threads. Frankly, this among the very few zoom threads that is not spite. "

How is this thread not spite? 
 
Zoom can stop time and has ridiculous reflexes.  Hiro can almost stop time and has regular human reflexes. 
 
Hiro can't possibly beat Zoom.  Even if Zoom gives him the chance to use his powers, Hiro is still gonna be a statue to him.
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#18  Edited By Zoom
@MKF30 said:
"Zoom I'm pretty much sick of hearing about lol"

Then quit making threads with him...
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#19  Edited By sexy_merc

Zoom stomps, Hiro has nothing on him.

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#20  Edited By Green Skin

I'd like to imagine that Zoom loses due to acute fanboy poisoning, lol.

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#21  Edited By MKF30

@Zoom, perhaps I should have been more specific..I'm tired of SPITE Zoom threads...;) where Zoom obviously wins...how's that? :P 
 
And this is only the  3rd Zoom topic I've made out of like 30 threads I've made on here....lol

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#22  Edited By hdorman1

im gonna say hiro for the heck of it

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#23  Edited By Zoom
@MKF30 said:
"@Zoom, perhaps I should have been more specific..I'm tired of SPITE Zoom threads...;) where Zoom obviously wins...how's that? :P"

Again, then stop making them.  ;)
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#24  Edited By cascadeking09

zoom

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#25  Edited By SilverSentry

 future Nakamora got caught by human soldiers he got  shot with a Taser , his reaction time isn't that good Zoom for the win.

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#26  Edited By MKF30

Not what I was saying Zoom... you act as if I'm the only user who has made a Zoom thread...lol, clearly not look around..
  
The ones I make are more evenly matched well maybe except for one....(which again are only 3)...I mean it's not like It's biased one way easily...like say Spectre vs. Zoom in which Zoom wouldn't have a chance but that's overpowered...so no worries ;)

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#27  Edited By Power NeXus

Zoom. Epic slaughterhouse.
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#28  Edited By this guy

i think this would be a close one but i think hiro has the win

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#29  Edited By forze

Stupid fight, Hiro can't even stop a speedster who's not even close to flash level.  Hiro hasn't shown the abilty to hit someone as hard as zoom.  Although he can come back in time, he still needs to react to do so...but would be unable to, because he would get murder by one hit.  Spite Thread IMHO.
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#30  Edited By SilverSentry
@forze said:
" Stupid fight, Hiro can't even stop a speedster who's not even close to flash level.  Hiro hasn't shown the abilty to hit someone as hard as zoom.  Although he can come back in time, he still needs to react to do so...but would be unable to, because he would get murder by one hit.  Spite Thread IMHO. "
Exactly Zoom faster than even flash FTW
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#31  Edited By ThanosIsMad

Zoom's powers are pretty much on all of the time.  Hiro has to activate his, and he does so with a baseline human reaction time.  So Zoom can hit him before Hiro could stop time.

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#32  Edited By Zoom
@this guy said:
"i think this would be a close one but i think hiro has the win "

WHY 
 
I hate it when kids come onto a curbstomp battle and say the curbstomped character wins without giving any reasoning whatsoever.  Makes them look dumb. 
 
If you really think Hiro wins, at least tell us why so we don't think you're just irrational.
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#33  Edited By MKF30

forze, this isn't a spite thread....if it was spite I would have made Daphne vs. Zoom...not someone who can actually stop time and time travel...

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#34  Edited By Maikel
@MKF30: Hiro can jump point-to-point in time and space, not move freely through it. When Hero interacts with time, he can bring it to an almost-slowdown, but not to a standstill(as daphne could still move) 
 
Zoom however can manipulate time itself, if Hiro goes to his time-stop, Zoom should be able to slow it down even further. Hiro exists in time, and has the capability to travel within it at will, however Zoom controls the flow of time itself and everything existing in it around him.  
 
No prep, Zoom could and probably would curbstomp him. 
With prep, well not lots of it, Hiro has to "cheat" by appearing at multiple places and incarnations of himself at thesame time in thesame spot(and he has proven he can do that), and hiro simply charges him(that leaves one question, what would happen if in that situation Zoom killed one of the attacking Hiro's?)  
 
All in all I do give Hiro the upper hand(and Hiro is a comicbook freak, so he has his prep! :-D )
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#35  Edited By MKF30

Yeah dude, that's why I was saying he could use his time travelling ability with point to point in time/space, since he went to the future why couldn't he just go to the past? But yeah I agree, since he is a comic geek he'd have prep and knowledge..

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#36  Edited By Dark Zoom
@MKF30: actually this is a spite thread do to the fact that since zooms not in the TIMELINE TIMESTOP wouldnt work on him. hiro can only freeze things that are in his time
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#37  Edited By mavfan626

Can anyone post some of zoom's scans?

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#38  Edited By Dark Zoom
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#39  Edited By MKF30

Actually Dark Zoom, this isn't a spite thread...spite=on purpose so that one guy has NO chance against the other....clearly there have been votes for Hiro, so not spite.... 
 
Spite would have been Spectre vs. Zoom or vs. Hiro....

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#40  Edited By Dark Zoom
@MKF30: people dont know that hiro's power wouldnt work. so it would be a human being versus zoom
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#41  Edited By MKF30

I think depending on hiro's choice of time travel makes a difference, not speed(as we've seen daphne still moving) obvioulsy Zoom is billions ahead of her since Flash is far faster then Daphne... 
 

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It depends on which attacks first...

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Unless hiro can react better Wally than Zoom decimates him

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What's Hiro's feats?

Stopping time completely for any amount of time, going as fast as a speedster capable of ftl travel

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People do realize we have no way to quantify how fast Daphne was moving right?

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Hiro

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#47  Edited By MaZeRaIII

Hiro.

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Hiro..

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Zoom stomps

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Everyone keeps mentioning Daphne, but Hiro was distracted during that encounter. He must have been, she was there when he managed to pull off that awesome 'I'm a villain, watch me stab Ando' trick, and she hated him for it until she learned the truth.

HIro does have human reflexes though, so unless he gets lucky or Zoom toys with him instead of going in for the kill. I think Zoom would have it. Depends very much on the context of the fight and how it starts. If Hiro just happens to stop time and only then realises he was in danger by seeing a fist inches from his face, he could win it. If it was a 'Ready, Set, Go' kind of set up, Zoom wins.