Glory Vs Illyria (spoilers)

Ok so Glory is a hell god she was so powerful that her buddies (two other hellgods) threw her out of there dimension which before that point they had ruled equally. They both FEARED glory cause of her power, two hell gods feared the power of one and thus had to combine to take her out. They could not or would not take her immorality which we dont know. because technically they did take her immortality because she did become mortal when her human half came out. So perhaps they did this as a punishment? Who knows we have little in history when it comes to Glory before her depowerment what we do know is that even after being depowered. 
 
Glory's powers and feats that i can remember were as follows: 
 
Super Strength and Invunrability: Glory was after a monk who knew the identity of the key he was holed up in an old building with a giant metal door keeping others out, glory punched through this knocking it down. She tortured the monk but he didnt reveal what she wanted. Buffy showed up and tried to fight Glory to her suprise when Glory hit her just once it sent her across the room and into a wall that broke. Buffy was stunned and tried fighting back Glory kept on beating on her effortlessly, till buffy got the monk and left, Glory was pissed and stomped her foot the stomping caused the building to fall on her which only slowed her down. During the show Glory was, hit by lightning by dark magic willow, she was hit with knives wihch she blocked using only her hands, she was droped right above the city of sunnydale, she was hit by a mack truck, she was also attacked by an army (seriously an army) of armed knights. She was unharmed by any of these things the only thing that did manage ot harm her was when Willow cast a spell to drain glorys stamina, they also had the buffy bot fight with glory, they hit her with a wrecking ball, they also used a troll gods hammer. After all this all she got was a bloody nose, she also was in contact with some weird orb that would hurt her for some reason. Eventually she got to weak to fight on probably due to the god hammer, she became human again and the human part was killed.  
 
VS 
 
Illyria 
 
Illyria is one of the OLD ONES. A race of beings that were pure demon and lived before humans but after the powers that be (Jasmine) Illyria was feared even amoung the old ones and became there king and as she says "a god to a god" she was killed by other old ones. She planned though in case this would happen. Even while dorment (not really dead) Her coffin was teleported to a pre ordained location. The Coffin was opened by Fred and she was taken over slowly and painfully by Illyria int he episode Hole in the world which is one of the saddest episodes you can watch. Her vessel which was Fred was to weak to contain all her power and thus she was later depowered by a special gun that drained her energies into another dimension. Anyway in the next season which was in comics called Angel After the Fall by IDW publishing. She seemed to have all her powers back at least till LA went back to earth but we dont know if she's got all her powers back she has really impressive feats after Angel After the Fall which makes us wonder if she has regained her powers.  
Magic powers: she was able to cast a spell that made everyone forget who her human half was, She also did a spell to make some snake into a giant monster that was able to seek out the key, the snake was also able to see the key. Giles said it took ALOT of power to do this and Glory didnt seem to be bothered by it.
 
Her powers and feats are as follows 

Invunrability: Wesley hit her with a battle ax to the head, she didnt look like she even felt it, the ax shattered. Spike punched her and she didnt really wince or anything just punched him back. During the mini series Angel Only Human, Illyria fought another old one who was in earlier eons her "pet" this pet had most of illyrias powers since a cult of demons stole the generator that was used to drain illyria, and shot the powers into this dorment old one, the pet and illyria fought, the pet commented on how she couldnt hope of beating her cause it had all her powers or most. None the less the battle continued with Illyria seeming not to undergo any damage. the pet was freaked, and stunned saying something like how isnt i havent killed you! or how is it i havent hurt you! In angel after the fall she beat up angels pet dragon cordelia
Super Strength VERY ABOVE AVERAGE and super human speed and fighting skills, perhaps the strongest in the buffyverse but we dont know cause other beings like Glory, and The First Evil exist: Her first feat of strength was when she back handed Harmony right across the room. She threw angel through two windows and down many floors, Later she fought both Spike and Angel, Wesley was there as backup, She dodged most of there attacks, angel did get in at least one punch which knocked her down which is pretty dumb condering her other fears of invunrability. Very inconstistant. But she did dodge gunfire from wesley pretty easy, she also dodged spike and angels combined attacks she manhandled both of them throwing both of them away like insects very easily she commented that she was "unimpressed" When Gunn was in the Wolfram and Harts hell dimension he was tortured by a very large demon, Illyria went up to the demon and back handed him defeating him easily then put on a pendant that made him torture himself since everyone in the hell dimension wears one so that the demon knows who to torture. Later on when her powers were malfunctioning and time was going back and forth in a crazy fashion, she fought angel, wesley, and spike killing all of them and lorne
Power over time and space: in her first appearnce she showed little bits of these powers. she slowed down time for one, she could also open portals easily to any dimension she chosed we can assume that. When her powers were messing up on her time was going back and forth like crazy, During Angel After The Fall the same thing happend going back and forth sept she was doing it on purpose i think, she was able to change back into her original form at times. She was tired of existance and suffering or whatever and then started to collapse everything nobody was able to stop her sept some nonsense writing about someone appealing to her emotions.

ILLYRIA

Even depowered Illyria would stomp Glory.  Illyria in her true, demonic form, in her own words, was considered a god by other gods.

Glory. She super speeds and puts her first through Illyria's head.  Willow only hurt her for like a second and she came to the fight prepared.

" Glory. She super speeds and puts her first through Illyria's head.  Willow only hurt her for like a second and she came to the fight prepared. "

" @EpitomeofCool said:

" Glory. She super speeds and puts her first through Illyria's head.  Willow only hurt her for like a second and she came to the fight prepared. "

Illyria would stomp all over Glory. You use the speed tacit. This won't work against someone who can slow down time almost to the point of it stopping. And even by some miracle Glory did lay a hand on her Illyria's durability is more than enough to take it. "

 That's assuming she could stop time before glory got her.

Also if this was glory in her true fourm she would crush illyria. we only saw her trapped as a human and constranly strained by sharing a body with ben.

she was so powerful and fearded she was kicked out of hell!

im pretty sure fred is smaller than the body that glory was in and illyria was going to explode because of all the power inside of her

Sure, if Illyria in Fred's body, fought Glory in her true form, Glory would win swiftly.  Illyria in her true form > Glory in her true form, according to everything we know about them.  The word "god" means absolutely nothing here.  Illyria was called "god" by other "gods".  Illyria is far older than Glory and possibly her entire dimension.  Illyria was the most powerful being they ever showed on either TV show.

Glory was also just worshipped as a god.  That's how you define a "god".  Illyria actually ruled over many dimensions, and she could move between dimensions freely and effortlessly, even in Fred's body.  She also stated she lived thousands of lives at once.  Pure blooded demons (IE the Mayor) are not the same as "old ones".  The old ones existed before anything else.   Illyria was more of an entity than a physical being.

 
I thought about this question too!  
So yay, I'm happy, happy, happy.  [: 
 
 Characterwise,I personally liked Glory better than Illyria, Glory was more entertaining and had more depth to her IMO. [:  
but as far as a fight goes, I have no idea. 

illyria stomps this fight

" illyria stomps this fight "

Which version of Illyria is this? 

" Which version of Illyria is this?  "

" <------- is backing the chick who can't be hurt by anything other than magic and the essence of a god and pretty much made a slayer look like a joke...that's glory if you folks didn't know "

" @Lance Uppercut said:

" Which version of Illyria is this?  "

dude who made this thread hasn't been on in 2 months. which means we are to assume most current version "

" @Louisiana Bob said:

" <------- is backing the chick who can't be hurt by anything other than magic and the essence of a god and pretty much made a slayer look like a joke...that's glory if you folks didn't know "

 Because no one on team Buffy (or the truck) had enough strength to hurt her.
 
Illyria has "killed" both Angel and Spike(who has killed a slayer or two).
Also the Turok-han(pre series finally) did the same thing. As well as many of her other foes.
The only time Illyria was ever even threatened was after she had been drained of her power because it was too great for Fred's body to contain. "

 No because having a building dropped on her, hitting her with a wrecking ball, daggers, glass, speeding mac track and teleporting her into the troposphere and then dropping her did no damage, but willow magic to a small degree caused her pain, and then later magic used by the monks to specifically cause here pain which was used in the season finale...and a god hammer were the only things that hurt her.

Wow illyria managed to kill both spike and angel by using time manipulation...cool. Funny seeing as buffy had the chance to do the same until they you know...ran away..or she let them live... minus time slowing of course. Are you seriously bringing up the uber vamp killing a bunch of inexperienced teenage girls who were literally slayers for...a minute? Any-who....Slayer > Vampire

Uhmm no..illyria was threatened...and then murdered...at full power which is how she got in freds body in the first place. 

And then she gained full power again....and was then murdered again.
 

No body threatened her because all she did was stop time

 not that it matters anyway as her current version is post generator 

" @Louisiana Bob
Here we go again. "

" @Louisiana Bob
No. Here we go again as in you start doing what you always do. Ignoring points and blowing little mistakes. So the old ones were technically never called "gods" so what? It's obvious they had power like one.
LOL. You are REALLY one to talk about making leaps in logic that makes little sense. And misinformed comments...... "

A god is simply a being who is worshiped by lesser beings.  To say that Glory is a god, but Illyria isn't, makes absolutely no sense at all.  Feats matter more than your speculation, and Illyria has far better fats than anything Glory has.  This is incontestable.  Illyria could effortlessly bend time and space, travel between dimensions (I doubt Illyria would even need a key to travel to Glory's dimension), had physical strength on par with Glory if not greater, and seemed genuinely smarter.  Being the God of a hell dimension isn't even that impressive;  It just means she was the most powerful being in that one dimension.  Illyria was known as the most powerful being in most dimensions when she was alive and in her true form.That is the definition of a god, and Illyria most certainly was (and still is, because she cannot truly die) one.  There are infinite dimensions.  Connor survived the majority of his life in a hell dimension (Quortoth), which is said to be the most hellish of the hell dimensions.
 
Also, Illyria was never at full power.  She stated herself, in the very first episode she appeared in, that Fred's body could not contain her power, and the vast majority of her power was lost upon entering her.  Illyria was at a fraction of her power when she almost blew up and wiped out the western seaboard.  I don't know why people assume she was at full power before the Wolfram & Hart device drained her.  She wasn't.
 
Another interesting point, if Fred's body is incapable of containing Illyria, why is Glory's body also able to contain Ben?  That's 2 beings in a single body.
 
Yet another interesting point, old ones were contained in the deeper well because their essence cannot be destroyed, proving my point that Illyria, and beings like her, are far more than physical beings. 
 
BTW, you call Olaf the Troll a god, and argue when I call Illyria a god?  Are you kidding me?
 
 "To never die and to conquer all - that is winning." - Illyria

I couldn't care less.  I don't care to change your opinion, but others will read it and you will look like a fool for replying merely to tell me you didn't read my post.

IIIyria without a doubt takes this fight in my mind.

" I couldn't care less.  I don't care to change your opinion, but others will read it and you will look like a fool for replying merely to tell me you didn't read my post. "

I'd love to start a poll and see who people see as the fool here.  :)

He instigates a fight in darn near every thread he posts in.  His first response when somebody disagrees with him is hostility.  Every single time.

" A god is simply a being who is worshiped by lesser beings.  To say that Glory is a god, but Illyria isn't, makes absolutely no sense at all.  Feats matter more than your speculation, and Illyria has far better fats than anything Glory has.  This is incontestable.  Illyria could effortlessly bend time and space, travel between dimensions (I doubt Illyria would even need a key to travel to Glory's dimension), had physical strength on par with Glory if not greater, and seemed genuinely smarter.  Being the God of a hell dimension isn't even that impressive;  It just means she was the most powerful being in that one dimension.  Illyria was known as the most powerful being in most dimensions when she was alive and in her true form.That is the definition of a god, and Illyria most certainly was (and still is, because she cannot truly die) one.  There are infinite dimensions.  Connor survived the majority of his life in a hell dimension (Quortoth), which is said to be the most hellish of the hell dimensions. Also, Illyria was never at full power.  She stated herself, in the very first episode she appeared in, that Fred's body could not contain her power, and the vast majority of her power was lost upon entering her.  Illyria was at a fraction of her power when she almost blew up and wiped out the western seaboard.  I don't know why people assume she was at full power before the Wolfram & Hart device drained her.  She wasn't.  Another interesting point, if Fred's body is incapable of containing Illyria, why is Glory's body also able to contain Ben?  That's 2 beings in a single body.  Yet another interesting point, old ones were contained in the deeper well because their essence cannot be destroyed, proving my point that Illyria, and beings like her, are far more than physical beings.   BTW, you call Olaf the Troll a god, and argue when I call Illyria a god?  Are you kidding me?  "To never die and to conquer all - that is winning." - Illyria "

I give up.

" I give up. "

" @EmperorVulcan: you are a saint for lasting this long man.
 
@Louisiana Bob: It's as simple as this, we don't know Glorys true form, level of strength, durability, or even what it looks like. Your arguing Glorys stronger, based on 2 words God, and demon. You can't compare Glorys true form to illyria's cause we've actually seen illyrias, we haven't seen Glorys. So in my book Illyria wins. "

yeah easy on the caps