100% Confidence Gladiator
Warrior Madness Thor
World Breaker Hulk
Rules
Win by death
No prep
No BFR
Battlefield is indestructible
hulk at these levels,without a bfr hes not going down by force now,his anger levels are only going higher and higher,glads falls first,thor wont put this hulk down for good,hulk wins imo.
Kallark by a hair on his mohawk.
Without BFR WBH takes it.
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@jmarshmallow: Regular Hulk has defeated Gladiator. How does he take the World Breaker?
@eternityx: This is 100% confidence Gladiator.
I figure he'd absolutely wipe away regular Hulk, and barely edge out against a guy who can't fly, even if he is World Breaker.
Jmarshmallow
Without BFR WBH takes it.
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@jmarshmallow: I didn't read the 100% confident bit. But even then, World Breaker Hulk has smashed an asteroid twice the size of Earth and he's destroyed a planet with one punch. I haven't seen Gladiator do anything that impressive.
@eternityx: Very true.
But he hasn't really been 100% confident either.
It's really just speculation tbh.
Jmarshmallow
@jmarshmallow: Fair point.
Without BFR WBH takes it.
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How does Hulk beat any of them, his best move: destroying the planet, won't faze them as they have both tanked it before, with Gladiator being much faster than them and Thor actually using some semblance of speed id on't see how he wins
How does Hulk beat any of them, his best move: destroying the planet, won't faze them as they have both tanked it before, with Gladiator being much faster than them and Thor actually using some semblance of speed id on't see how he wins
Wait, WB Hulk's planet busting (indirectly mind you) punches won't faze Gladiator or Thor?!?! If Savage Hulk's punches faze them, World Breaker Hulk's certainly will. Keep in mind Warrior Madness doesn't make Thor more durable, so WB Hulk is more than capable of inflicting enough damage to put him down.
@green_skaar: @dondave: During War of Kings a 100% confident Gladiator willed himself to be untouchable. Even if that is hyperbole he still has nanosecond reaction time. He still has that heat vision that will burn hotter due to his confidence. Gladiator burns through Hulk or hits him repeatedly while hulk can't counter
@green_skaar: @dondave: During War of Kings a 100% confident Gladiator willed himself to be untouchable. Even if that is hyperbole he still has nanosecond reaction time. He still has that heat vision that will burn hotter due to his confidence. Gladiator burns through Hulk or hits him repeatedly while hulk can't counter
Untouchable? Some how I doubt that. Keep in mind WBH can thunder clap, very powerfully mind you. Savage Hulk already w/stood his heat vision, WB will be just fine.
Without BFR WBH takes it.
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How does Hulk beat any of them, his best move: destroying the planet, won't faze them as they have both tanked it before, with Gladiator being much faster than them and Thor actually using some semblance of speed id on't see how he wins
The indeirect energy that destroyed a planet was also powerful enough to destroy people who rival Hulk and Silver Surfer at base power levels, which is at planet-buster levels.
@green_skaar: Withstood? we saw his heart. a few more seconds And Hulk would have died. and that Gladiator was weakened from all the radiation. Glads can thunder clap also. Glad also has reaction time and flight speed that Hulk can't begin to compensate for.
@green_skaar: Withstood? we saw his heart. a few more seconds And Hulk would have died. and that Gladiator was weakened from all the radiation. Glads can thunder clap also. Glad also has reaction time and flight speed that Hulk can't begin to compensate for.
Would have, could have, should have. Hulk didn't die, in fact he grabbed Gladiator's face and later thunder clapping his head. Hulk will have no problem hitting him.
@green_skaar: and hulks thunder claps didn't KO Gladiator. Hulk had to use PIS and they happened to be on top of a radiation plant. Hulk has been in THOUSANDS of fights and has not ONCE hit a person using pico reation speed.
@green_skaar: and hulks thunder claps didn't KO Gladiator. Hulk had to use PIS and they happened to be on top of a radiation plant. Hulk has been in THOUSANDS of fights and has not ONCE hit a person using pico reation speed.
PIS? I swear everyone just uses that excuse any time they can't accept what's happened on panel. Total head in the sand approach. Again, Hulk has hit him before and in WB mode he gets faster, so he'll be just fine, unlike Gladiator who will get destroyed.
@green_skaar: and hulks thunder claps didn't KO Gladiator. Hulk had to use PIS and they happened to be on top of a radiation plant. Hulk has been in THOUSANDS of fights and has not ONCE hit a person using pico reation speed.
PIS? I swear everyone just uses that excuse any time they can't accept what's happened on panel. Total head in the sand approach. Again, Hulk has hit him before and in WB mode he gets faster, so he'll be just fine, unlike Gladiator who will get destroyed.
Wait. So we should just imagine that PIS does not exist. You say believe what is on panel. Let's do that. On panel it stated that Gladiator was WEAKENED from the radiation of the power plant doesn't it? In order to finish Gladiator off what did Hulk do? Slammed him into the power plant. That is on panel. Is there a power plant in this comicvine fight? No. so that tactic won't work. A comic book has to tell a story and last for 22 pages. Hulk has hit everyone because the story dictates that the fight last. Can you show Hulk hitting or dodging someone who is actually flying light speed or has light speed reaction time?
Wait. So we should just imagine that PIS does not exist. You say believe what is on panel. Let's do that. On panel it stated that Gladiator was WEAKENED from the radiation of the power plant doesn't it? In order to finish Gladiator off what did Hulk do? Slammed him into the power plant. That is on panel. Is there a power plant in this comicvine fight? No. so that tactic won't work. A comic book has to tell a story and last for 22 pages. Hulk has hit everyone because the story dictates that the fight last. Can you show Hulk hitting or dodging someone who is actually flying light speed or has light speed reaction time?
Hulk already hit Gladiator and now in a faster more powerful incarnation (WB) he can't? This isn't complicated, Hulk can and will hit him.
Wait. So we should just imagine that PIS does not exist. You say believe what is on panel. Let's do that. On panel it stated that Gladiator was WEAKENED from the radiation of the power plant doesn't it? In order to finish Gladiator off what did Hulk do? Slammed him into the power plant. That is on panel. Is there a power plant in this comicvine fight? No. so that tactic won't work. A comic book has to tell a story and last for 22 pages. Hulk has hit everyone because the story dictates that the fight last. Can you show Hulk hitting or dodging someone who is actually flying light speed or has light speed reaction time?
Hulk already hit Gladiator and now in a faster more powerful incarnation (WB) he can't? This isn't complicated, Hulk can and will hit him.
1) Did you read the comic where they fought? Did it say that Gladiator was WEAKENED from the radiation? When Gladiator fought Hyperion it said they were reacting at nano or pico second speed. Did it say anything similar when Hulk fought Gladiator?
2) Comicvine fights do NOT exactly follow how it happened in the comic book. In a real fight, Hulk can NOT hit Gladiator unless Gladiator wants him to.
1) Did you read the comic where they fought? Did it say that Gladiator was WEAKENED from the radiation? When Gladiator fought Hyperion it said they were reacting at nano or pico second speed. Did it say anything similar when Hulk fought Gladiator?
2) Comicvine fights do NOT exactly follow how it happened in the comic book. In a real fight, Hulk can NOT hit Gladiator unless Gladiator wants him to.
1. Yes, and WB is faster than Savage Hulk. Nothing similar was said, but that doesn't mean anything. It's very very rare in comics for exact specifications of reaction time are give. It's the norm not to.
2. Yeah I know CV love to ignore comics and feats they don't like.
@green_skaar: Yeah I know CV love to ignore comics and feats they don't like.
When superman gets hit by bullets does that mean bullets are as fast as superman. When Deathstroke hits Flash does that mean DS is as fast as flash? When GL grabbed Zoom does that mean GL is as fast as Zoom? When Spiderman beat Firelord, I guess that means spiderman is herald level. All those things happened in comics, so it must be correct.
It's very very rare in comics for exact specifications of reaction time are give. It's the norm not to.
Really? Because I have seen very specific times given for Flash, Superman, Wonderwoman, thor, gladiator, hyperion, SS, Sentry, Quicksilver, Green lantern, Photon, Captain america,Storm, even Colossus. If Hulk had light speed or pico they would have said it by now.
@pooty said:
When superman gets hit by bullets does that mean bullets are as fast as superman. When Deathstroke hits Flash does that mean DS is as fast as flash? When GL grabbed Zoom does that mean GL is as fast as Zoom? When Spiderman beat Firelord, I guess that means spiderman is herald level. All those things happened in comics, so it must be correct.
Yes they are correct, but context must be considered. You don't just ignore it like it didn't happen, it happened, it's now time to find a logical explanation. Not a lame cop out of PIS or some other nonsense of blaming the writer.
Really? Because I have seen very specific times given for Flash, Superman, Wonderwoman, thor, gladiator, hyperion, SS, Sentry, Quicksilver, Green lantern, Photon, Captain america,Storm, even Colossus. If Hulk had light speed or pico they would have said it by now.
Yeah it's still rare. Just because you picked a very small minority of total characters and looked at a small minority of their feats doesn't make it common.
Thor.
@green_skaar: You don't just ignore it like it didn't happen, it happened, it's now time to find a logical explanation.
EXACTLY. The logical explanation of why Hulk can hit Gladiator is because Gladiator was not using the full extent of his speed.
Not a lame cop out of PIS or some other nonsense of blaming the writer.
. It's a comic book. They have to entertain. Everyone knows that. But you can't deny that some peoples abilities are nerfed so that we can see an entertaining fight.
Thor.
Without BFR WBH takes it.
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How does Hulk beat any of them, his best move: destroying the planet, won't faze them as they have both tanked it before, with Gladiator being much faster than them and Thor actually using some semblance of speed id on't see how he wins
Gladiator's most recognizable weakness is Gamma radiation, once discovered by Surfer and corroborated by Hulk when he was fighting him and ultimately punched him into a nuclear reactor, WBH with his HUGE destructive gamma burst would probably incinerate Gladiator with ease, let alone actually punching him with gamma amped fists. And i think WBH>WM Thor.
EDIT! It's not Gamma Radiation, even though Surfer made reference to Gladiator having a weakness to certain radiation, however, he's actually weak to radiant energy, pretty much what Hulk generates while in WBH state.
@ghostravage: Gladiator has passed through stars that emit various forms of radiation. You emit all the radiation you like but if it is not the specific radiation Gladiator won't be affected by it
@ghostravage: Gladiator has passed through stars that emit various forms of radiation. You emit all the radiation you like but if it is not the specific radiation Gladiator won't be affected by it
That's not what Hulk says here, nor what Silver Surfer said in his instance... Maybe he can pass through suns, but not a nuclear reactor... Which Hulk pretty much become while WBH state.
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