Doomsday vs H'el

Rules

Current version of H'el

Pre-new 52 version of Doomsday

Random encounter

No outside help

No prep

No BFR

Morals off

Wins by any means (Except BFR)

Location: Kalanor

know nothing at all about He'l, but Doomsday is incredibly hard to put down. With just physical strength it should be damn near impossible since he'd been killed that way already. So just wanted to keep your thread alive, and hopfully I can learn from others about the new guy. Did hear he's been wrecking the Super fam though.

H'el has been impressive against the Supes fam so far and he's displayed more powers than just flight and super strength. He actually has TK which is kinda cool. IDK if he could solo Doomsy tho especially with BFR out of the picture, I personally need to see more from him to make a call like that.

Hel has TK and has threatened to deconstruct Superboy at a molecular level. He's created illusions, He's moved so fast that Superman has not been able to see him (remember new52 Superman has flown from Pluto to earth in the time it takes someone to teleport) and is arguably stronger than Superman.

I'd say, unless this is H/P Doomsday, H'el has a pretty good chance.

bump

@matchesmalone21 said:

bump

He'l, dammit! He'l. lol

@Jayfournines said:

Hel has TK and has threatened to deconstruct Superboy at a molecular level. He's created illusions, He's moved so fast that Superman has not been able to see him (remember new52 Superman has flown from Pluto to earth in the time it takes someone to teleport) and is arguably stronger than Superman.

I'd say, unless this is H/P Doomsday, H'el has a pretty good chance.

Agreed.

Hel has TK and has threatened to deconstruct Superboy at a molecular level. He's created illusions, He's moved so fast that Superman has not been able to see him (remember new52 Superman has flown from Pluto to earth in the time it takes someone to teleport) and is arguably stronger than Superman.

I'd say, unless this is H/P Doomsday, H'el has a pretty good chance.

bump

Doomsday is quite the force when it comes to being nearly ustopppable and indestructible, I'm not sure if H'el can win.

We don't know enough about H'el yet to put him against people with such feats as Doomsday. For all we know, H'el could have easily exploitable weaknesses

Fyi, I pick Doomsday solely cause he faced kryptonians before whereas He'l has had much experience fighting the likes of DOOMSDAY...

Damn if H'el is this powerful I gotta pick up H'el on Earth.

Interesting battle but when everything is revealed about H'el then i will answer :D

H'el is giving Superman, Superboy, and Supergirl all a run for their money. Doomsday was put down by a weaker Superman than the current one. He may come back in round two and change his tune, though

On another note, H'el is the dumbest looking Superman villain I've ever seen.

Unless this is DOS Doomsday i frankly see Doomsday winning this.

He'l is more versatile but Doomsday is just simply hard to put down.

Doomsday wins

Noone beats Doomsday, one way would be to reality warp him out of existence, if even that works. He will just come back, however if H'el can kill DD in a way he has never been killed before, I assume that's still a win, as it takes a while for him to come back.

@tomlikesfries said:

@Jayfournines said:

Hel has TK and has threatened to deconstruct Superboy at a molecular level. He's created illusions, He's moved so fast that Superman has not been able to see him (remember new52 Superman has flown from Pluto to earth in the time it takes someone to teleport) and is arguably stronger than Superman.

I'd say, unless this is H/P Doomsday, H'el has a pretty good chance.

Agreed.

This is another thread where I feel an outcome cannot be fairly or properly attained. For one, Doomsday has plenty of feats to fall back on and he's proven his worth as one of the strongest and most deadly foes in the DC Universe. H'el, on the other hand, has little to no feats whatsoever and beyond trashing Kal effortlessly in a single panel, it does little to qualify his potential to handle Doomsday.

@Deranged Midget said:

This is another thread where I feel an outcome cannot be fairly or properly attained. For one, Doomsday has plenty of feats to fall back on and he's proven his worth as one of the strongest and most deadly foes in the DC Universe. H'el, on the other hand, has little to no feats whatsoever and beyond trashing Kal effortlessly in a single panel, it does little to qualify his potential to handle Doomsday.

True

bump

I think h'el would take it he is beating new 52 superman whose way stronger than DOS superman. And if he can't bfr doomsday he could take him down atom by atom like he said about superboy. Plus I don't see doomsday fast enough to touch h'el.

i feel like H'el wont fight DD like SUpes does.. he wont play his games and just lobotomize him. but that may not work

bump.

Doomsday mauls him.

@Jayfournines said:

Hel has TK and has threatened to deconstruct Superboy at a molecular level. He's created illusions, He's moved so fast that Superman has not been able to see him (remember new52 Superman has flown from Pluto to earth in the time it takes someone to teleport) and is arguably stronger than Superman.

I'd say, unless this is H/P Doomsday, H'el has a pretty good chance.

@Deranged Midget said:

This is another thread where I feel an outcome cannot be fairly or properly attained. For one, Doomsday has plenty of feats to fall back on and he's proven his worth as one of the strongest and most deadly foes in the DC Universe. H'el, on the other hand, has little to no feats whatsoever and beyond trashing Kal effortlessly in a single panel, it does little to qualify his potential to handle Doomsday.

bump

@Deranged Midget said:

This is another thread where I feel an outcome cannot be fairly or properly attained. For one, Doomsday has plenty of feats to fall back on and he's proven his worth as one of the strongest and most deadly foes in the DC Universe. H'el, on the other hand, has little to no feats whatsoever and beyond trashing Kal effortlessly in a single panel, it does little to qualify his potential to handle Doomsday.

This,and remember he has the "new villain effect" going for him as well.

Doomsday returns and whoops H'el's a$$. 

bump

Was going to make this but honestly, it depends...

If you go based on pure powers, H'el should manage to at least deal with Doomsday. Defeat? Not sure....perhaps not especiall H/P DD. However, Superman while he died and came back DID managed to kill Doomsday the first time at the same time DD putting Supes down. H'el is arguably Superman with more powers.

Feat wise, Doomsday wins for sure since H'el has but a few to no feats as of yet. Who knows...what he'll do in time. The molecular TK ability and transportation, illusion powers etc are pretty impressive.

H'el has too few feats.

That's just it though, are we talking in terms of raw powers or feats?

For now, I'm siding with Doomsday, but if H'el gets more feats, than I'll maybe go with him.

@Vaeternus: raw powers

H'el with this.......:P

Doomsday

@matchesmalone21 said:

@Vaeternus: raw powers

cool topic lol. Hmm, in that case that's hard lol.

Couldn't H'el just mindrape Doomsday? H'el's a telepath. Right? Or was Doomsday already killed that way?

Also i guess they're kinda equal on strength...idk about durability...but i guess if H'el wouldn't be able to mindrape Doomsday, then this fight could go on forever

@drfate: MM couldn't mindrape doomsday.

He'l.

H'el wins.

Why exactly is it people are treating Doomsday as someone far above Superman?

@thedailybagel: this is H'el we are talking about. Not MM. Also : if H'el can't mindrape Doomsday he can lobotomize him. Right?

But...what's the REASON to say that MM can't mindrape Doomsday?

@highaccuser: idk. H'el is basicly a Superman with a couple aditional powers. It seems pretty obvious to me that after an epic fight he would kill Doomsday.

@drfate: doomsday has no organs and no brain, that's why he cannot be controlled... So tp or mindrape would have little effect on him, and besides, it has been attempted before...

Doomsday

H'el

H'el. Aside from being equal, or arguably above clark in stats, He also has tk strong enough to rip kon apart down to his cells.