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Debaters' Hall of Fame, Round XVIII, Official Voting Thread

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Now that nominations have closed up, it is time for you all to vote on ComicVine's top 5 debaters, for the Hall of Fame Round XVIII!

Rules for the Voting Round

  • You can only vote for members from the nominee list.
  • You can only vote for a maximum of 5 users.
  • You are not required to explain why you're voting for someone, but it is appreciated.
  • Please tag the people you're voting for instead of using nicknames, alts, etc., and don't use spoiler blocks--it makes it much easier to count the votes.
  • You cannot vote for yourself.
  • You must have a minimum post count of 500 to vote.
  • Be respectful. Do not berate and insult anyone's votes. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
  • Nominees are allowed to campaign in this thread by making a post explaining why you should vote for them. This can include links to past debates you think show off your skills.
  • No one who is permabanned can be inducted into the HOF. (None of the nominees below are permabanned as of today.)
  • Inductees must have been members of the site for at least 1 year. (All of the nominees below have been on the site for at least a year.)
  • The winners will be the top 5 vote-getters at the end of voting--Monday, January 22 at midnight, eastern.

Current Nominees

You can vote for up to 5 people from this list.

    • Alextheboss
    • Allstarsuperman
    • Andromeda1001
    • angelica10
    • bladeoffury
    • BreakOfDawn
    • CaoCao
    • Claymore1998
    • Death4Bunnies
    • defiant_will
    • Eisenfauste
    • eredin12
    • EstrellaDeLeon(n)
    • faradaysloth
    • GangOrca
    • geekryan
    • gelato_exotic
    • GilgameshThePimpToEndAllPimps
    • HitTheAssasin
    • kevd4wg
    • killbilly
    • Killerqueen
    • KingCrimson
    • kurt_saulenne
    • maalik
    • mass
    • Naronu
    • nassergrant19
    • pics
    • PyroFN
    • reaverlation
    • Stormshadow_x
    • streak619
    • takenstew22
    • TheNamelessOne
    • TheVivas
    • wastelandman

To be clear: This is the round where you vote for people to actually get in the Hall of Fame.

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AllStarSuperman.

I will start by saying AllStarSuperman, because it's high time he's in. I might later vote for more people. But come on, guys.

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I’ll start with AllStarSupes, Kev, and Reaver. Will come back.

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TNO, GeekRyan, D4B

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I can explain later if needed

Streak619, KingCrimson, Defiant Will, and Naronu

I don’t have a final vote rn I might later

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Thanks you to the guys who voted for me. I’m going with

reaverlation

Stormshadow_x

TheVivas

geekryan

Eisenfauste

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Geekryan

Allstar

Reaverlation

Stormshadow

PyroFN

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D4b, keV, Bof, Andro, Gek

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BoF should be a lock

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#12  Edited By ProfessorRespect

PyroFN

Kevd4wg

BoF

Andromeda

Eisen

kurt

Claymore

Wastelandman

All the above are well-deserving (and overdue, may I add)

Given I can only vote for five, just take the five top as my votes then

I would've voted for AllStar but I can't legitimately remember anything he's done the last 5 years. I also would've voted for maalik if he was more active.

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Defiant_Will, Estrella, Nar, TNO and Mass

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Namelessone and EstrelladeLeon

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Wastelandman, TheNamelessOne,streak619, Death4Bunnies and Andromeda1001

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Ok my 5 votes go to

Claymore1998

geekryan

kevd4wg

reaverlation

wastelandman

Just missing my 5 votes

Allstarsuperman

Andromeda1001

nassergrant19

Sorry guys (who's the idiot that limited this to 5 votes ..... Ahhh NVM, I think it was me;). )

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PyroFN - Very knowledgeable X-Men debater & friendly

geekryan - Great debater in many different areas

Allstarsuperman

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#19  Edited By HigorM  Moderator

As of now I’ll lock my vote on @eisenfauste and @geekryan

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#20 owie  Moderator

My first two votes are for:

• Geekryan

• Allstarsuperman

Both overdue, excellent debaters who have had a lot of influence on the forum and site over time. I had fun CAV/tourneys with both in the last couple years, where I definitely was hard pressed, especially with Allstar. And my tourney with Geek was in a tourney created by Allstar--our fates are so intertwined :) They were both very close votes that were perhaps more importantly enjoyable debate experiences that speak to their character as well as their ability.

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My 5 votes are for -

  • TheNamelessOne
  • takenstew22
  • EstrellaDeLeon(n)
  • Alextheboss
  • pics

Decent blogs, posts, CaVs, and videos.

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My 5 votes are for:

  • Andromeda1001
  • kevd4wg
  • kurt_saulenne
  • wastelandman
  • TheNamelessOne
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@owie:

I used to have an acc with more then 1000 posts. Its called SuperSonicTL so can i vote if you won't mind?

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As of post 25, this is the current tally, by my count. Please feel free to check it.

Geekryan -- 8

TheNamelessOne -- 6

Allstarsuperman -- 5

Kevd4wg -- 5

Reaverlation -- 4

Andromeda1001 -- 4

Death4Bunnies -- 3

Eisenfauste -- 3

PyroFn -- 3

BladeofFury -- 3

EstrellaDeLeon -- 3

Wastelandman -- 3

Streak619 -- 2

Defiant_Will -- 2

Naronu -- 2

Stormshadow_X -- 2

KingCrimson -- 1

TheVivas -- 1

Mass -- 1

Claymore1998 -- 1

takenstew22 -- 1

Alextheboss -- 1

Pics -- 1

kurt_saulenne -- 1

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#27  Edited By VoidUnbound
@owie said:

@voidunbound: The only account I see with that name has 0 posts.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/supersonictl/

This was my another attempt of creating an acc when i deactivated my first one but things just didn't went well with the validation process coz Cv was just not sending me message in gmail to legalize it for posting purpose.

This is my deactivated acc:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/profile/deactivated-61ffbb71d792f/

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#29  Edited By ProfessorRespect

@higherpower: gear needs to do more on the site to get the lock ngl he's fallen off the radar

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TheNamelessOne

Takenstew22

Andromeda1001

EstrellaDeLeon

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#31  Edited By Ieatnettles

I vote thenamelessone, d4b and takenstew22

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#32 higherpower  Moderator

@higherpower: gear needs to do more on the site to get the lock ngl he's fallen off the radar

I'm confident in saying he's probably completed more debates than everybody that's currently nominated combined

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#34  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@higherpower said:
@professorrespect said:

@higherpower: gear needs to do more on the site to get the lock ngl he's fallen off the radar

I'm confident in saying he's probably completed more debates than everybody that's currently nominated combined

Over the last year he's done basically nothing ngl. It's not about completing debates either, it's about quality of debates etc. BoF has hardly been active, but his debates when active are top quality and full of surprisingly convincing arguments for positions that I've yet to see many even attempt to brave talking about.

@boutatakeanl's been in plenty of thread discussions (easily beats Gear in sheer numbers) but I think even he would admit that wouldn't make him a first ballot for here lol.

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@professorrespect: I agree 100%

Matter of fact, who is Gear?

Who is he indeed

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PYRO- Great X-men related debater and always civil

Andromeda1001- Skilled in Marvel's mystical side.

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NamelessOne, Kevd, Reaver.

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#37 frozen  Moderator

I’ll also vote for DefiantWill.

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I'll vote for Nameless

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Respectfully if it’s about quality a decent chunk of people shouldn’t have been nominated outright, not being super active isn’t a reason to disqualify someone either as for every edition of these users who are rarely active get voted in.

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I'll also vote for Naronu and I'll throw a much needed bone to Pics.

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#41  Edited By higherpower  Moderator
@professorrespect said:

Over the last year he's done basically nothing ngl.

You do realize that you voted for Kev, who before the event I started hosting last week made less than a grand total of 10 posts over a year, and hadn't had a debate in over 2 years? Like you do realize this yes?

Recent activity has never been a requirement for HoF, there are plenty of people who were snubbed or overlooked in their time and got inducted much later. Activity is good for keeping you at the forefront of voter's minds to prevent those snubs, but the HoF itself has been irregular over the last few years, so it should matter less than ever

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#42  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@higherpower said:
@professorrespect said:

Over the last year he's done basically nothing ngl.

You do realize that you voted for Kev, who before the event I started hosting last week made less than a grand total of 10 posts over a year, and hadn't had a debate in over 2 years? Like you do realize this yes

The difference is that Kev has a immense legacy on the board like Eisen and co etc. What Gear has is something else, not the same etc.

Recent activity has never been a requirement for HoF

...I mean that's just not true though. You can't vote for guys whom haven't posted at all in the last year (Toratorn and co etc). The fact that the nominees are mostly people who post at least semi-regularly shows that pretty clearly.

Ofc you can say that it isn't a pre-requirement, but naturally those who post more will be considered much more prevalently in the minds of others as you yourself agree with.

Activity is good for keeping you at the forefront of voter's minds to prevent those snubs, but the HoF itself has been irregular over the last few years, so it should matter less than ever

It should still matter through, Gear hasn't made any sort of lasting contribution nor has any particularly remarkable stuff over the last year and something, that's obviously gonna be a issue regardless of how much you think regency plays into things

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@professorrespect:

The difference is that Kev has a immense legacy on the board like Eisen and co etc.

Blatantly moving the goalposts in a thread to commemorate debating? Tsk tsk. Wonder how you got in.

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Anyways, here's an update as of post #43

  • TheNamelessOne -- 10
  • Geekryan -- 8
  • Kevd4wg -- 7
  • Andromeda1001 -- 6
  • Defiant_Will -- 5
  • Allstarsuperman -- 5
  • Reaverlation -- 5
  • Death4Bunnies -- 4
  • PyroFn -- 4
  • EstrellaDeLeon -- 4
  • Wastelandman -- 4
  • Eisenfauste -- 3
  • BladeofFury -- 3
  • Naronu -- 3
  • takenstew22 -- 3
  • Streak619 -- 2
  • Stormshadow_X -- 2
  • Pics -- 2
  • KingCrimson -- 1
  • TheVivas -- 1
  • Mass -- 1
  • Claymore1998 -- 1
  • Alextheboss -- 1
  • kurt_saulenne -- 1
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#45  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@higherpower said:

@professorrespect:

The difference is that Kev has a immense legacy on the board like Eisen and co etc.

Blatantly moving the goalposts in a thread to commemorate debating

What goalposts? Kev's contributions to CaV's and numerous projects (some worked and overseen by myself) are clear to see in terms of a long-standing legacy on the board. I'm not sure if you're saying he doesn't or he has less than expected, clearly untrue either way.

Tsk tsk. Wonder how you got in

Idk ask the 18 people who voted tbh

I wouldn't be talking about "how did you get in" when there's was that infinite speed Goku stuff but sure idk. That's a bag of worms I'll not go into for the sake of not derailing the thread and the sanctity of the HoF.

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#46 owie  Moderator

@professorrespect: Let's keep it positive. People are free to vote on someone who hasn't been active much recently, like we did when Fetts got in last year. And they're also free to not vote for someone because they haven't been active recently. It's up to the voter.

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#47  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@owie said:

@professorrespect: Let's keep it positive. People are free to vote on someone who hasn't been active much recently, like we did when Fetts got in last year. And they're also free to not vote for someone because they haven't been active recently. It's up to the voter.

That's very true, I'm just discussing with Vulcan the value of regency in regards to the HoF. For me and my voting I'd say that does play a good part as does many beyond.

At the end of the day it's a fictional No-Prize on a old side-forum, so I don't really put that much stock into it. I just like discussing the details about it like everything else.

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I can explain later if needed

Streak619, KingCrimson, Defiant Will, and Naronu

I don’t have a final vote rn I might later

Final vote for reaver

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@professorrespect:

so I don't really put that much stock into it

You tagged me to complain about Gear being voted for so this is clearly not true... And you moved the goalposts from being recently active to having a "legacy". I obviously respect what Kev has accomplished considering I voted for him, but Gear has helped influence the perceptions and metas of entire verses like One Piece and HxH, and pioneered a lot of current debating rhetoric for manga along with other key users in his generation like Hit, Streak, Maestro, etc.

He's had impressive wins over multiple Hall of Famers, and like I said has completed more debates than every other person on the nominee list combined (and if you don't believe me we can count them). The rate at which he constantly improves while pushing boundaries in what he argues is unlike anything I've seen from other people on this site. These are all points I'd bring up if I campaigned for him.

So to conclude, this isn't the thread to be bitter, as you're generally not allowed to criticize other people's votes. Activity requirements are up to the voter as Owie said. Ignoring all that, you have no merit to talk about anyone else's debating "legacy" considering you got voted in purely off the strength of respect threads.

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#50  Edited By ProfessorRespect
@higherpower said:

@professorrespect:

so I don't really put that much stock into it

You tagged me to complain about Gear being voted for so this is clearly not true

Yeah I like discussing votes is all.

And you moved the goalposts from being recently active to having a "legacy". I obviously respect what Kev has accomplished considering I voted for him, but Gear has helped influence the perceptions and metas of entire verses like One Piece and HxH

To be honest I don't think discussing in a couple of threads a few times a year and maybe one unfinished CaV doesn't really provide much constructively. That's just me though.

I didn't move any goalpost. You asked about Kev not posting a ton, and I addressed why I personally voted for one over the other. Not sure how that works ngl.

He's had impressive wins over multiple Hall of Famers

I think anyone who's been on here for any good amount of time has this as well. With 100+ HoF lads this isn't as impressive as it would be 10 years ago.

and like I said has completed more debates than every other person on the nominee list

...and? In the last year there's not been a whole lot and that is going to influence votes etc.

These are all points I'd bring up if I campaigned for him

You should given you were mentoring him, that would be a helpful boost given your passion for arguing about Gear's personal growth etc. You should commit to that all things considered

So to conclude, this isn't the thread to be bitter

I'm not though, this is a discussion. What is there to be bitter about lol

you have no merit to talk about anyone else's debating "legacy" considering you got voted in purely off the strength of respect threads

Most of my votes were related to debating though + I have a whole containment thread for my debates. Just because I don't cav (even when people demand publically/privately for one, for instance) doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things. I think Kev's legacy on the board goes bigger than how many of a specific format of debate he's been in, but that's just me ofc.

To conclude, I'd say it's all about legacy (and how much you do recently)