Orion (Composite)/Standard Gear
Gauntlet
1. Iron man (Extremis Armour)
2. Thing
3. Savage Hulk
4. Juggernaut
5. Thor
6. Sentry (Stable/No void)
7. World Breaker Hulk
8. Silver Surfer
9. Thanos (Prime/No gauntlet HOTU etc.)
10. Galactus
Composite Orion? I'd say 8. Sentry and Thor definitely shouldn't be this high up lol, he failed to do jack against Juggs multiple times and has never really gotten over Hulk either.
Sentry is 2 high up as well for him only being Stable IIRC
There's a version of Orion that was stalemating Soul Fire Darkseid. He could most likely clear if we take that into account.
Otherwise, probably stops at 9.
Sentry and Thor definitely shouldn't be this high up lol, he failed to do jack against Juggs multiple times and has never really gotten over Hulk either.
Not sure about Sentry but Thor can remove Juggernaut's force-field via magic and just beat him up without the 1 minute weakness.
I dunno if composite has some incarnations i am not aware of but shouldn't go higher than 8 maybe 9 honestly.
how strong really is orion?some versions have problems with superman and some can solo hellfire darkseid if it is normal(the one that has problems with superman) then he stops at sentry(who should be below thor
just saw orion's RT not saying he is weak but those feats are a little unimpressive compared to thor and even sentry and i know he must have a ton of new feats since the RT so if anyone could please provide that
@underfire47: normal loses to WBH or surfer
Com loses to thanos tho there is a chance that he can stop at surfer
@underfire47: normal loses to WBH or surfer
Com loses to thanos tho there is a chance that he can stop at surfer
he will also likely lose to thor and maybe sentry
Clears
Anti-life equation hax
Soulfire Orion the one who fought Soulfire Darkseid who fought The Source
Multiversal Orion
Stops at 5 to 8.
@punyaamrit: i didn't ask your opinion so don't shove it
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
No he didnt. Surfer treated him like fodder.
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
No he didnt. Surfer treated him like fodder.
No he didn’t the fight was inconclusive neither side won, surfer flew around and couldn’t do anything once tagged, he’s saving grace was literally he’s surf board which he used to run away. Nevermind that incarnation of Orion killed Darkseid so by default normal pre-crisis Orion without the Astro force is above darkseid,
Soulfire is a stomp, The source = The Presence = The The voice, Soulfire Darkseid is Darkseid who has stolen The sources power, he even says so in DOTNG
Composite Orion clears
Incorrect Big G just destroyed Darkseid’s clothes and darkseid was ready to fight, he Got back up but then Galactus realised there was no lifeforce in the planet.
Im not saying Galactus would lose, he’d win but he didnt get treated the way you’ve said, they left of stopped of mutual agreement
Nevermind Soulfire Darkseid is too strong he beat the source who is the presence and Soulfire Orion beat SF Darkseid
DC gave a good explanation, New Gods get there power from the source, this is basic knowledge, darkseid killed all the new Gods absorbing there portion of the source until it was over 50% then he beat the Source but couldn’t kill him and Darkseid explicitly says I get my power from you, Orion who is Darkseid son was destined to be stronger then darkseid, so he’s soul, not body, he died came back in a soulfire form and beat Soulfire Darkseid
And now I put your argument in a coffin let’s dance my brothers
@punyaamrit: i didn't ask your opinion so don't shove it
relax bro don't need to spill gamma rage all over the place
@punyaamrit: Don't worry i won't because there is apparently a block option.
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
is soulfire the prescribed version here, i don't think so of he is then mismatch soulfire version solos all except maybe galactus
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
i don't think orion is on surfer's level and even if he is could you like provide scans?
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
Soulfire clears but normal one stops at either thor or sentry
@punyaamrit: Don't worry i won't because there is apparently a block option.
lol what did i do to piss you off so much anyway you do whatever you want don't know what is happening to the vine these days
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
is soulfire the prescribed version here, i don't think so of he is then mismatch soulfire version solos all except maybe galactus
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
i don't think orion is on surfer's level and even if he is could you like provide scans?
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
Soulfire clears but normal one stops at either thor or sentry
Did you seriously just bring Soulfire Orion into the mix and cited a Marvel/DC crossover. Your opinion is worth less than a grain of salt lol.
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
is soulfire the prescribed version here, i don't think so of he is then mismatch soulfire version solos all except maybe galactus
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
i don't think orion is on surfer's level and even if he is could you like provide scans?
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
Soulfire clears but normal one stops at either thor or sentry
Did you seriously just bring Soulfire Orion into the mix and cited a Marvel/DC crossover. Your opinion is worth less than a grain of salt lol.
you talking to me?
You guys underestimate Orion
Soulfire Orion fought a Soulfire Darkseid he clears
is soulfire the prescribed version here, i don't think so of he is then mismatch soulfire version solos all except maybe galactus
And using crossovers normal Orion has already fought Silver Surfer to a stand still
i don't think orion is on surfer's level and even if he is could you like provide scans?
And galactus fought Darkseid, the Battle was inconclusive Darkseid got back up, but Galactus left when he realised Apokolips has no life energy
Soulfire Orion clears no diff
Soulfire clears but normal one stops at either thor or sentry
Did you seriously just bring Soulfire Orion into the mix and cited a Marvel/DC crossover. Your opinion is worth less than a grain of salt lol.
you talking to me?
No @funeralmen
@funeralmen: Inconclusive? Fought to a standstill? Hardly
Silver Surfer's attention was elsewhere and he wasn't even trying to fight Orion, but still casually injured him so severely that even the Mother Box couldn't heal him. He would have actually died if Surfer hadn't stalled the Black Racer. They weren't equals, Surfer was quite out of his league in that story.
Darkseid failed to even scratch a hungry Galactus. Even the Source couldn't offer anything more than a "hide the world" to Highfather. They were all outmatched.
Now this story is non-canon, but it was written by John Byrne, who knows both properties very well.
The Galactus/Darkseid crossover is non-canon and therefore irrelevant to this thread.
If we're going by those non-canon versions of Surfer and Orion...then yeah, Surfer wins and this thread is utterly pointless.
The Galactus/Darkseid crossover is non-canon and therefore irrelevant to this thread.
If we're going by those non-canon versions of Surfer and Orion...then yeah, Surfer wins and this thread is utterly pointless.
Overally this cross is inconsistent. One parademon clapped Surfer ( boomtube amped ) but ( as i understand that comic ) Surfer was symbiotically supported by boomtube Galactus powerwise so could they beat Darkseid and Orion somehow.
Seriously i don't treat those crosses for real
@hamster555: Not at all. Surfer was swatting Parademons like bothersome flies and they only slowed him down with sheer numbers. If one would die, a 100 would take it's place. There was no 'Boomtube amp'. The only ones to do any actual damage to him were Darkseid and Galactus.
@m0ntyb0y: I'm aware. I added that bit at the end of my post for a reason. I didn't even bring it up -- the user whom I tagged did that.
@brucerogers: I mean to enter Apocalypse or Godshpere realms u need Boomtube adaptation because all mortal universes exist in bubble of godsphere. Mortal universes like all 3d universes or 6 univverses or multiverse. THis what i mean
@championjoe: @punyaamrit: @brucerogers:
Why are you guys picking on me it’s not nice
I said on post 25 that the crossover is irrelevant
Soulfire Orion clears
I could even mention Pre-52 Orion who fought pre-crisis superman who fought new Gods capable of punching with the force of a galaxy and some time multiple galaxies
Bruce you realise, if you realise hit me up in the pms, yes my words are ambiguous intentionally how many people talk like that
As for championjoe I specifically said DoTNG, I only mentioned the crossover to show they are comparable, destroying clothes has nothing to do with durability and I agreed Darkseid was beneath galactus in that story
Main emphasis Soulfire Orion clears you guys keep ignoring it
Coffin: *Put your arguments here*
@hamster555: That might be true in some stories, but not in that one. Surfer just walts into New God space without Boomtubes.
@championjoe: @punyaamrit: @brucerogers:
Why are you guys picking on me it’s not nice
I said on post 25 that the crossover is irrelevant
Soulfire Orion clears
I could even mention Pre-52 Orion who fought pre-crisis superman who fought new Gods capable of punching with the force of a galaxy and some time multiple galaxies
Bruce you realise, if you realise hit me up in the pms, yes my words are ambiguous intentionally how many people talk like that
As for championjoe I specifically said DoTNG, I only mentioned the crossover to show they are comparable, destroying clothes has nothing to do with durability and I agreed Darkseid was beneath galactus in that story
Main emphasis Soulfire Orion clears you guys keep ignoring it
Coffin: *Put your arguments here*
IT'S NOT SOULFIRE
@championjoe: It says composite, so that includes Soulfire unless stated otherwise.
@championjoe: @jirou: @king-ragnar:
This is composite Orion
Pre-Crisis Orion has universal feats
Anti-life equation Orion can solo with a thought literally even IG Thanos wouldn’t stand a chance
Soulfire Orion is spite
@funeralmen: Why are you tagging me, I made the thread.
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