#1 Posted by WillPayton (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan Scott (bloodlusted)

vs

Darkseid


Random encounter, standard pre-52 versions, standard equipment.

Who wins?

#2 Posted by WillPayton (9366 posts) - - Show Bio

Darn, can a mod move this to the battles section?

#3 Edited by Bruxae (13649 posts) - - Show Bio

While you wait for the move ill put a vote up for Alan.

#4 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17904 posts) - - Show Bio

Since its here I will go with Darkseid. I like that picture of him.

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#5 Edited by AweSam (7373 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite. You clearly hate Darkseid.

#6 Posted by batnorris (679 posts) - - Show Bio

meh, i'll go with alan

#7 Posted by New_World_Order (13064 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan easily

#8 Posted by dondave (36644 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Alan Scott isn't beating Darkseid, but he'd lose to a bloodlusted Pre-52 Alan Scot

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#9 Posted by ComicStooge (12595 posts) - - Show Bio

Standard Darkseid loses, Final Crisis Darkseid wins.

#10 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

What has Alan Scott done new 52?

#11 Posted by Yokergeist (12355 posts) - - Show Bio

What does "bloodlusted" even mean?

#12 Posted by dondave (36644 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave:

What has Alan Scott done new 52?

Nothing impressive, just the standard Green Lantern blast and some energy constructs, nothing to say he could beat Pre-52 Darkseid

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#13 Posted by hart7668 (2294 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-52 Darkseid was quite the Jobber so, I'm not sure any of his feats actually mean anything. And I have no real knowledge of Alan Scott outside of the current Earth 2. sooo, if someone could help me out with him, it would be much appreciated.

#14 Posted by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

@hart7668: a bloodlusted pre 52 Alan is possessed by the starheart entity and a high level being. in this state durin Blackest night he possessed and controlled Dr Fate, Obsidian, Miss Martian, and others ti figh for him. he fought simultaineously on different points on the moon the JSA, the JSA All Stars, the JLA while also fighting Supergirl and Powergirl on earth ( Laughing at their best blows) also controling the very forces of nature keeping the likes of Captain Atom, Firestorm and others busy around the globe fighting tornados tidal waves and blizards he created. he also empowered a prison guard with complete control over gravity and possessed him to fight for him elsewhere.

hope that helps

#15 Posted by jackbensley777 (651 posts) - - Show Bio

Since its here I will go with Darkseid. I like that picture of him.

why? he looks fat

#16 Posted by mrdecepticonleader (17904 posts) - - Show Bio

@mrdecepticonleader said:

Since its here I will go with Darkseid. I like that picture of him.

why? he looks fat

Just like the pick as all jeesh. And Darkseid has always seemed like a broad guy too.

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#17 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

Darkseid ftw

#18 Edited by Ancient_0f_Days (12043 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre-52 Versions ... Alan Scott wins.

Alan is more powerful at his strongest and angriest in Post Crisis...pretty sure that's during the Blackest Night arc. Sentinel was straight scary then, too OP. I swear he could even turn the head of GDS Darkseid with all that power he was putting out. Post-Crisis Darkseid is powerful, but not that powerful. Beatboks1 already gave a short rundown of what happened during Blackest Night, Darkseid is good and if writers hadn't abused him over the years he would be getting a good shot here, but not this time.

#19 Edited by Onemoreposter (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

The Alan voters are crazy. No one said Starheart. Additionally, we don't know what sort of effect the Omega beams would have on the Starheart energy. The Omega effect might be able to manipulate Alan on a molecular level as easily as it did the Cyborg or Doomsday.

Even if Alan is blood lusted, DS is more ruthless and more experienced. Now, I'm sure GL gets his licks in but:

  • Darkseid wins: 8/10

Darkseid is always a high level opponent who occasionally gets jobbed when a writer is being lazy. I see @ancient_0f_days: @beatboks1 quoting feats from Blackest Night instead of how Alan is generally portrayed. In that case DS should have the Anti-Life equation since he had that in his last canon pre-52 appearance and DS with ALE stomps.

#20 Edited by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

@onemoreposter said:

The Alan voters are crazy. No one said Starheart. A

A yeah it's stated in OP

@willpayton said:

Alan Scott (bloodlusted)

Bloodlusted IS starheart, it's when it takes over. That was what happened in Blackest Night. Hense the reason for bringing it up. I keep saying threads shouldn't be made with Alan bloodlusted but no one seems to listen.

The Omega effect might be able to manipulate Alan on a molecular level as easily as it did the Cyborg or Doomsday.

Since when is energy molecular?? Alan IS living energy

The last one is the perfect example. Litereally showing his form is pure magic energy.

#21 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

I unno, DS's beams have hurt the Spectre...

#22 Posted by ComicStooge (12595 posts) - - Show Bio

@onemoreposter said:

The Alan voters are crazy. No one said Starheart. A

A yeah it's stated in OP

@willpayton said:

Alan Scott (bloodlusted)

Bloodlusted IS starheart, it's when it takes over. That was what happened in Blackest Night. Hense the reason for bringing it up. I keep saying threads shouldn't be made with Alan bloodlusted but no one seems to listen.

The Omega effect might be able to manipulate Alan on a molecular level as easily as it did the Cyborg or Doomsday.

Since when is energy molecular?? Alan IS living energy

The last one is the perfect example. Litereally showing his form is pure magic energy.

Darkseid's Omega Beams have hurt pure energy beings before, such as a weakened Anti-Monitor (in his energy form).

Now, that's not to say the standard version of Darkseid wins. He probably wouldn't. But getting hit with the OB would certainly do damage to Alan.

#23 Posted by Moonman78 (1726 posts) - - Show Bio

What is Alan Scott's greatest battle feat, has he ever beat anybody as powerful as darkseid

#24 Posted by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

@moonman78: a starheart posessed nlood lusted Alan soloed every hero on earth. when not blood lusted he has destroyed a god who absorbed the power of over 50 heroes. he has also defeated Mordru several times ( who is DS level)

he has fought Neron and other Hell lords and in fact fought all of hell. he closed a dimensional fisure that threatened all realities from every side. he has faced Extant and others like King of tears who are above DS level with the JSA

@comicstooge: @thedarklordpandamonium: I wasnt commenting on Alan not getting hurt i was replying to someone who said DS' Omega beams would affect Alan on a molecular level. since he doesnt have molecules that wont happen now will it.

#25 Posted by ComicStooge (12595 posts) - - Show Bio

@moonman78: a starheart posessed nlood lusted Alan soloed every hero on earth. when not blood lusted he has destroyed a god who absorbed the power of over 50 heroes. he has also defeated Mordru several times ( who is DS level)

he has fought Neron and other Hell lords and in fact fought all of hell. he closed a dimensional fisure that threatened all realities from every side. he has faced Extant and others like King of tears who are above DS level with the JSA

@comicstooge: @thedarklordpandamonium: I wasnt commenting on Alan not getting hurt i was replying to someone who said DS' Omega beams would affect Alan on a molecular level. since he doesnt have molecules that wont happen now will it.

Ah, I misunderstood. Sorry about that.

#26 Posted by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

"Even if Alan is blood lusted, DS is more ruthless and more experienced. Now, I'm sure GL gets his licks in but:"

sorry I missed that part the first time around. this almist made me laugh when I read it.

1. how is DS more experience than an entity of magic that has existed sinse the dawn of time.

2 how is he more ruthless than said entity whos sole purpose in existence is to whipe it out while DS wants to rule. Starheart has stated many times that it simply wants to destroy everything.

I think the thing @onemoreposter keeps missing is the "bloodlusted Alan" = Starheart. Alan cant give in to his emotions that way without it taking over

#27 Posted by Killemall (18559 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicstooge: Even the final crisis Darkseid, we hear a lot about his potential but we dont see much. He ended up getting snugged to death by Superman, he also was clearly struggling against Superman in countdown, got beaten by Orion. Its easy to hang on to hyperbole, but feats on the same series was meh!

What is Alan Scott's greatest battle feat, has he ever beat anybody as powerful as darkseid

He soloed the DC Earth, making a mockery of Justice League. He has beaten Mordru, and i honestly count him as being more powerful. Heck when Starheart was stolen by Eclipso he used that to not only beat but kill Spectre. Thats saying a lot.

Thats not including his time manipulation, reality warping etc.

#28 Posted by patrat18 (9582 posts) - - Show Bio

can some one add some scans of what pre 52 alan scott can do??

#29 Posted by King Saturn (224040 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan Scott under these conditions would beat Darkseid...

#30 Edited by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

@patrat18 said:

can some one add some scans of what pre 52 alan scott can do??

#31 Edited by Onemoreposter (4030 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1: Starheart possessed Alan =/= blood lusted Alan. If the OP meant for this to be Alan Scott possessed by the Starheart then that is what they would have said.

#32 Posted by beatboks1 (7171 posts) - - Show Bio

@onemoreposter: try reading the character, that is exactly what it is. Alan needed to retain will power to keep the starheart entity in check. post the blackest night story line he stated repeatedly that this was required. if he was bloodlusted he isn't retaining and focusing will now is he?

the one and only time post coie that he gets blood lusted he looses control of the starheart and it takes him over. he states repeatedly afterward that he needs to keep part of his will containing the starheart.

there are only 2 other times of Alan becoming bloodlusted in the character history ( both pre COIE) one was stream of ruthlessness and the other was when he believed Brainwave had killed all his friends. both these were well before the post crisis story where he absorbed all the starheart to contain it and was upgraded in power.

Franky it wouldnt matter if it wasnt starheart entity the only times he's been driven by emotion ( his wifes soul in hell and his son turned evil) he displayed damn near the exact same power levels. one of those was his only multiversal level feat.

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#34 Posted by XiiX (8065 posts) - - Show Bio

Alan Scott stomps him into omega-paste.

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#35 Posted by lol (4693 posts) - - Show Bio

@moonman78: a starheart posessed nlood lusted Alan soloed every hero on earth. when not blood lusted he has destroyed a god who absorbed the power of over 50 heroes. he has also defeated Mordru several times ( who is DS level)

he has fought Neron and other Hell lords and in fact fought all of hell. he closed a dimensional fisure that threatened all realities from every side. he has faced Extant and others like King of tears who are above DS level with the JSA

@comicstooge: @thedarklordpandamonium: I wasnt commenting on Alan not getting hurt i was replying to someone who said DS' Omega beams would affect Alan on a molecular level. since he doesnt have molecules that wont happen now will it.

you have the scans of Alan and JSA fight Extant and King of Tears?

#36 Posted by Killerwasp (4250 posts) - - Show Bio

alan