analyzing a corpse isn't investigation? remembering key details of conversations and piecing them together to arrive to an educated conclusion isn't investigation? literally investigating the first crime scene in the series and deducing where the throwing knives came from isn't investigation? interrogating possible witnesses and gathering information key to the investigation isn't investigating? searching the home bases of the talons for clues and evidence isn't investigation? analyzing and performing an autopsy on a skeleton isn't investigation? figuring out where he was in the city by the taste of water thereby finding where the court executes its victims isn't investigation? getting information from mr freeze about the regenerative abilities the talons have isn't investigation? he actually investigated the murder scene where Lincoln tricked the rest of the court into drinking poison. he deduced who Lincoln was, where he was, why he was doing what he was doing and who Lincoln thinks he is all by remembering key details he learned through his investigation. there was plenty of investigation in court of owls and I don't even think I covered it all.
You've basically taken your previous paragraph and instead of asking if it isn't detective work, you're now asking if it isn't investigation..... The answer hasn't changed, I'll break it down for you.
Yeah, this was close...but no, it wasn't investigation by itself. What it boils down to is that he smelt something, recognized the smell and lit it on fire to show the message. Impressive, sure, but not detective work in it's own right.
issue 2 autopsy and murder weapon analysis
I wasn't impressed with his, as it was mainly the computer telling him stuff. I bet you think Batman in TDK was a detective too, when he had the computer analyze evidence...
Besides, it was 2 pages out of 30. Far more action than detective work so far....
issue 3 interrogation of the whisper gang and every conversation with Lincoln march is part of the investigation as far as im concerned and he investigated the bases of the talons
You can be concerned all you like, doesn't make it so. I wouldn't say this issues contained any detective work. What in the world makes you think his conversation with Lincoln March is an investigation? That's really stretching things...
issue 4 another autopsy on Dick's grandfather's corpse. investigated more talon bases until he got captured
"Computer, analyze". Yes, what a fine example of detective work....
issue 5 im not just going through every issue to be a jerk. im looing through each of them and listing the ones that have detective work but an way in issue 5 he figured out where the talons held their executions by tasting the water. and this is a key part of the investigation because he now knows exactly where they are
Oh, I don't think you're being a jerk. You're putting effort into this to make an argument that you are passionate about. I strongly disagree with you, but I appreciate your perspective.
Err, he tastes water, but I don't see him deducing anything from it. All he does is mutter about drinking too much. FWIW I think this is the worst issue of the New52, aside from maybe the pointless Harper Row issue.
issue 6 doesn't really have any detective work as it just moves the story forward
Yup
issue 7 doesn't really have any either because its the assault on wayne manor
Yup
issue 8 he investigates Lincoln march's crime scene and the piece of paper Lincoln gives him a "message for bruce wayne"
Err, no, issue 8 is the assault on Wayne Manor.
issue 9 doesn't have any notable detective work
I'm guess you meant this issue when you talked about Issue 8. He goes to talk to Lincoln....that isn't being a detective. He also throws away the paper Lincoln gave him....what kind of detective discards evidence?
issue 10 he investigates the murder scene where licoln tricks the other owls to drink poison and he realizes everything by looing at hi mothers picture and reaing the message given to him by Lincoln
So you notice he shows up at the owls base, because Lincoln gave him the address. He didn't solve anything, he didn't uncover it through detective work....the answer was literally handed to him.
issue 11 is just a fight
Yup
issue 12 is pretty much a filler issue
Yup
and 13 starts DOTF. and ill go through those as well if u want me to
No need, thanks though.
Out of the 12 issues you listed, 4 at the very most have detective work, and generally only 1 or 2 pages, half of which is the computer doing the work and giving him an answer.
Keeping in mind he throws away evidence, didn't want to investigate because he did so as a kid, had the answer handed to him and then was unable to figure out if Lincoln was his brother or not. All that advanced technology in the early issues and he can't even do a simple DNA test?
Most of Snyder's run has been action, a Batman who beats and interrogates, very phsyically impressive, but nothing to show him as the worlds greatest detective.
I remember applauding Snyder for displaying batmans detective skills and pleading for more h2h feats lol im on the polar opposite side of the argument. I think batman needs to be shown knocking a few heads
See, that's just odd. There series has more than enough combat....
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