AVENGERS & X-MEN: AXIS #1 Teaser

@squalleon: Though his Venom run was must excellent. It went downhill pretty quick after cullen bun(s) took over.

I can't wait for this Event. Remender is writing, good plot, great cast sounds good.

@tximinoman: Rogue lead a team in Carey's run.

All I could think of when I first saw the teaser was...

I said "five important leaders in the x-men". Rogue has never lead an X-Men team (as far as I know) and the same can be applied to Magneto and Xavier, who, ok, they do lead the X-men at some point, but never were team leaders (I was talking about team leaders -also, Xavier did for a while and turn out to be useless). As far as "leading a team" go I do think Alex is far better prepared to lead a team than Psylocke, so my top 5 leaders will be Cyclops, Nightcrawler, Storm, Cable and Alex.

Also, when I said "mutant leader" I was referring about mutant leaders right now, if I have to choose between Wolverine and his school ideas (elitistic fucks who want to be left alone), Scott and his revolution (they don't want pacific coexistence anymore, they only care about mutants) and Alex and his avengers squad (He doesn't think mutants and humans are different and is the only one who's still pursuing Xavier's goals IMO) I will go with Alex all the way.

LOL, Havok is far from a top 5 leaders of Mutant kind.

Magneto

Cyclops

Xavier

Rogue

Storm

Nightcrawler

Cable

Psylocke

etc. They are all far better leader than Havok.

Who are the other four?

totally agree.

Captain America dies

im willing to give this a chance it seems interesting

@cheesesticks: because now Havok is in one of the most prominent positions in the realm of Mutant Human relations as the leader of the Avengers Unity Squad in Uncanny Avengers.

@fredcdobbs: i might have to disagree on the art part with you

You just earned a follow for your epicness and intelligence.

im so tired of the red skull .....you know what would be original? ....leaving the red skull dead for awhile !!!....is his super power coming back from the dead with a more dumbass plan than the last time he got killed? its 2014 and youre still doing nazis ....meh WHEN THE SKULL DIES AT THE END OF AXIS PLEASE LEAVE HIM DEAD ! use him in flashback cap stories ,,,he's corny now and worse with that onslaught armor..... MEH

Alex is the leader of the Uncanny Avengers (and this event was mainly built there and in Remender's Captain America run). Aside from that, if you think about it, Alex is one of the five most important leaders in the X-Men. Sure he has always been under his brother's shadow, but that doesn't mean he's not important (and I love what Remender has done with the character, he's the only mutant leader I agree with right now, and the only one that really feels to be chasing Xavier's dream)

hey now. Remender has proven himself to be good in writing events and mixing various characters that had little interaction before. in him i trust.

if nothing else, i'm interested in seeing the grudge match of the century: Red Skull (who was a nazi and stole prof x's brain) vs Magneto (who was a nazi victim and rival/friend of prof x).

@boynerdgeek: No, it was always a business, it was always about the money.

@teerack: yup agree. Not many fans like Red Skull. Marvel try to make Red Skull kind like Lex Luthor type of villains in Justice League cartoon imo but tbh I like that type of Lex Luthor compare to this Red Skull

I love how this big important event that will forever rock the mutant world isn't even crossing over with the 3 main x-books. All-New, Uncanny, and "Adjectiveless" X-Men are blissfully off in their own worlds. Looks like Amazing X-Men will be sitting it out too. Let's hope it stays that way!

True facts: No one cares about the Red Skull.

Seriously they should have let the Skull be dead. Fear Itself was a cool event and it if they didn't do this it would have left me with good memories of the character/legacy. Now it's just annoying that I have to wait for another two year long story line to be finished and forgotten.

The Red Skull is like Saber Tooth is for Wolverine, except for the entire Marvel Universe if you get what I'm saying.

@squares: Marvel during stan lee-Jack Kirby- steve ditko era is not about money. Marvel during 80's is not about money, it is about character development and story. But in 2000's forward, Marvel decide to milk the cash cow from events after events

I really hope this event gives Magneto and Cyclops their due as the new Badasses of the X-men. If anyone should get to take out Red Skull it should be Magneto. I mean the guy is a Nazi that stole his best friends corpse. No one else has near a big an axe to grind as ol' Max.

What do you mean, nowadays? MARVEL IS A BUSINESS, it's always been about money.

@comedy_brosusa: oh well marvel nowadays is all about money. Cashgrab events after events

@atary77: oh well marvel nowadays is all about money. Cashgrab events after events

Is Marvel even done with Original Sin yet? For crying out loud, finish your first popsicle before you open another one!

After all of the crappy stories Marvel has put out in the past 3 years, this looks equally as bad, overall. (the red skull part looks ok.) Marvel always say things will "never be the same" after stories are done, but the status quo always goes back to normal, and therefore I really don't want to spend my money on Marvel's yearly BIG stories anymore, because it won't really matter in a few months when everything goes back to normal.

I have liked Original Sin but I am skipping this. Probably will pickup the trade. I don't have high expectations for though.

Death of Wolverine vs Spider Verse vs AXIS . Oh Marvel why you divide your own reader and fans. Not many comics fans have alot of money to read this events and tie in books

I see a lot of hate for a series that hasn't come out yet. Granted Marvel is shelling out these events like fast food, but I'm going to still pick it up. One can hope that it is good.

Hmm

@humanrocket said:

@shadowswordmaster said:

@waezi2: Yes I do actual , Infinity was one.

Infinity is tied to both of the Avengers and New Avengers book. It brought us the current series of Mighty Avengers, Ms Marvel, Inhuman. It set up future stories involving the Kree and Skrull empires as well as a future story for Thane. It shook the royal family of the Inhumans.

Indeed Infinity was a good one alright. I just hope Remender's magic from his Uncanny X-Force run returns in this event as his game here needs to be much bigger now that it affects alot in the 616 universe.

Infinity is tied to both of the Avengers and New Avengers book. It brought us the current series of Mighty Avengers, Ms Marvel, Inhuman. It set up future stories involving the Kree and Skrull empires as well as a future story for Thane. It shook the royal family of the Inhumans.

I've been reading Uncanny Avengers since issue 1 & only missing the latest issue 23 BUT i forgot why Alex too.

@waezi2: Yes I do actual , Infinity was one.

The Red Onslaught begins

@humanrocket: I know that. Im only surprise that in an event thats supose to touch the whole marvel universe, Havok is far from the guy you want to see everywhere.

Nice

@shadowswordmaster: Remember when a event was something big and groundbreaking?

Now, it's Monday.

See Remender's Uncanny Avenger for the answers to why it's Havok.

For me it has a lot to do with the SpiderWoman Gwen version we're getting in SpiderVerse. I hope in some way, shape or form we get more stories from her.

To be fair I'm going to get both but I agree with you a bit.

SpiderVerse>>>>>>>>>>> Axis. But,that's just me.

orignal sin. no thanks.

Axis don't even bother.

There not but you may never know.

yeah that's different, probably just because he can't really use Cyclops.

Looking forward to the Hobgoblin and Carnage mini series but other than that I'll pass. Original Sin has been really good, better than expected, I'd like to leave off on a high note before Remender starts killing everyone.

With the immortal words of Linkara:

PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD: STOP MAKING MORE X-MEN COMICS!!!

I'm actually kind of excited for this one. I'm hoping alot of this current shit changes...

I'll give Marvel this much, Axis has me intrigued. Maybe not enough to buy into it, but enough that I'm nervous for how Red Skull's plans will affect the world and mutants. The X-Men stories that have always shaken me up the most, are the ones where Religious/Political Anti-Mutant agendas threaten Mutantkind in Mind or Body. In this case Red Skull's hatewave, and the Conditioning Camps on Genosha.

It's tinged with that same fear and desperation that X-Tinction Agenda had back in the day.

My ONE hope is that AXIS is not Marvel's Flashpoint and after this is over we are not looking down the barrel of a line-wide reboot of the universe.