PrinceAragorn1

@the_red_viper: whether I say "it's okay, I enjoy your nagging" or "leave me alone", we are at a risk of sounding like an old couple lol

@the_red_viper:

I need to make gifs, format posts and actually access the spartacus source material to post in the cav - that takes time and dedication, this I can do from a cell and on just memory.

@thecrazybean: none of that is actually canon ftr, that's just a fan exploiting console...

@the_red_viper:

1. There is no winter here, clear skies ends it - it can also be used by people other than graybeards. Winter isn't a problem since all races have mages that can just produce fire at will.

2. A white walker can't be a threat to a city, most holds at least have a court wizard..

3. Actually, dragons are confirmed to exist after the fight with alduin no matter which route you took in the quest. Where are you getting the idea that they they all died?

4. Skyrim dragons are smaller, but they are also capable of magic - GoT dragons have no answer to being shocked to death, for example.

The army of undead is not a problem considering skyrim necromancers can raise their own army, or use spells to turn undead - in the game itself we meet a mid tier necromancer who raises the entire tomb.

Not seeing why mages can't just undo the process that made whitewalkers even.

"GoT can win. Not saying for a majority but they can win."

Can you give a reason why? You have said it, but so far haven't given anything that supports this.

"If magic really was THAT powerful in TES, then mages would have taken over the world and would not have been able to be killed by any conventional means.""

Magic is not THAT powerful in skyrim, because about everyone has it. Even races that detest magic, like nords, have passive magic. In a low tier verse like GoT however, the mages would wreak absolute havoc.

@tparks:

illusion mages can also influence people's minds to paralyse them as per lore. I distinctly remember one example of paralysing vampires, I'll see if I can find the quote. Five or six seems like a very small number of mages for an entire continent, unless you are going by the number of npc's in a game or something. Not that they won't be sufficient.

@tparks:

Not seeing why a handful won't be enough - even saying they can't solo one on one, we already have instances of non top tier mages paralysing undead with a gesture - and there are a hell of a lot more mages in skyrim itself than 5 or 6. Whitewalkers, who have no defenses to something like that, are easy prey for a small party.

@the_red_viper: @tparks:

The ones that we have seen however, are capable of flat out mind control, or paralysing opponents with a gesture that isn't broken even when the target is getting lethal hits. Whitewalkers shouldn't be a problem for tamriel with those around. Shouldn't be a problem for high level mages like psijic order to just undo the magic keeping white walkers alive if they really feel like getting involved. Just restricting tamriel Gods is not enough for GoT to stand a chance.

@the_red_viper:

Basic mind control (?) of a child or a mentally challenged person, whichever you pick. A basic illusion spell, except one not strong enough to affect common adult thugs. Not exactly a strong case.

@the_red_viper:

I don't remember greenseers or the children having tp skills on the level of elder scrolls illusion mages. Can you elaborate a bit?

@the_red_viper: @uugieboogie:

Spellswords commonly use conjured weapons, which are not metal to get vaporized, and High level conjured weapons also auto soul trap the targets. A mage could just control them as well.

Tamriel wrecks ASOIAF as far as I see. Also, being more specific on "god-like beings" will help here.