Thanos (with IG)vs Spectre(peak level)

Spectre, in his greatest showing, was able to fight CoIE Anti-Monitor.
 
Spectre wins.

"Spectre, in his greatest showing, was able to fight CoIE Anti-Monitor.  Spectre wins. "

Thanos easy.

"Thanos still wins!   & Spectre's at his most powerful was NOT against COIE AM!  & that was'nt even just spectre own power but other Magics added to his..  HIS MOST POWERFUL is when merging with logoz! That is his PEAK!    & yea COIE AM also loses to Thanos..  Thanos w/IG  > Spectre merged w/logoz >COIE AntiMonitor "

"@GamorasBigDaddy said:

"Thanos still wins!   & Spectre's at his most powerful was NOT against COIE AM!  & that was'nt even just spectre own power but other Magics added to his..  HIS MOST POWERFUL is when merging with logoz! That is his PEAK!    & yea COIE AM also loses to Thanos..  Thanos w/IG  > Spectre merged w/logoz >COIE AntiMonitor "

What does it being under his own power have to do with it being his peak level? If the OP was looking for his highest showing than that still would be it. Thanos' highest/peak showing isn't under his own power its with the IG. Also The Spectre is impowered by someone elses power to begin with so... "

I think everyone is underestimating COIE Antimonitor.

"I think everyone is underestimating COIE Antimonitor. "

Thanos

"@Evil Incarnate said:

"@GamorasBigDaddy said:

"Thanos still wins!   & Spectre's at his most powerful was NOT against COIE AM!  & that was'nt even just spectre own power but other Magics added to his..  HIS MOST POWERFUL is when merging with logoz! That is his PEAK!    & yea COIE AM also loses to Thanos..  Thanos w/IG  > Spectre merged w/logoz >COIE AntiMonitor "

What does it being under his own power have to do with it being his peak level? If the OP was looking for his highest showing than that still would be it. Thanos' highest/peak showing isn't under his own power its with the IG. Also The Spectre is impowered by someone elses power to begin with so... "

Actually, he's not.  He has his own base powerset.  He's known as the wrath of god, not god. "

"@Push said:

"@Evil Incarnate said:

"@GamorasBigDaddy said:

"Thanos still wins!   & Spectre's at his most powerful was NOT against COIE AM!  & that was'nt even just spectre own power but other Magics added to his..  HIS MOST POWERFUL is when merging with logoz! That is his PEAK!    & yea COIE AM also loses to Thanos..  Thanos w/IG  > Spectre merged w/logoz >COIE AntiMonitor "

What does it being under his own power have to do with it being his peak level? If the OP was looking for his highest showing than that still would be it. Thanos' highest/peak showing isn't under his own power its with the IG. Also The Spectre is impowered by someone elses power to begin with so... "

Actually, he's not.  He has his own base powerset.  He's known as the wrath of god, not god. "

I thought given the circumstances he was impowered or allowed to act on be half of God? "

Thanos FTW but can't be sure cause Spectre could just send him to another Universe where IG doesn't work

"Peak host level Spectre or Peak hostless Spectre like Dov? "

Thanos w/IG, easily.

" Spectre, in his greatest showing, was able to fight CoIE Anti-Monitor.  Spectre wins. "

" @JediXMan said:

" Spectre, in his greatest showing, was able to fight CoIE Anti-Monitor.  Spectre wins. "

Wasn't he boosted by all magic from 52 universes?  To the thread: Teoretically (thanks to Power gem), Thanos can summon power from all beings from 616. So he can have power of all Abstracts, full cosmic Awareness (so Insane Gennis-Vell power), all magic power (Sise-Neg pwoer), all Celestials, The Horde, Watchers, Galactus, Proemial Gods from any time, etc. He can also summon energy from all minds and souls from 616. He is more than just Universal Buster with it, because even part of his power was able to it (like IGV or Sise-Neg).  P.S. But this still isn't even close to take COIE AM. "

Mad Titan FTW.

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

Is SCW AM really above Eternity,Oblivion,Death,Galactus,the In-Betweener,Master Order,Lord Chaos, and every major Marvel abtract with the exception of LT? "

"Thanos FTW but can't be sure cause Spectre could just send him to another Universe where IG doesn't work "

"Thanos w/ig>>Any Monitor, PC or not, COIE or not, imo. "

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet

" @JediXMan said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

Is SCW AM really above Eternity,Oblivion,Death,Galactus,the In-Betweener,Master Order,Lord Chaos, and every major Marvel abtract with the exception of LT? "

"@Pr_Beyonder said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

Is SCW AM really above Eternity,Oblivion,Death,Galactus,the In-Betweener,Master Order,Lord Chaos, and every major Marvel abtract with the exception of LT? "

I think you're confusing SCW AM with CoIE AM. SCW was a weakling. CoIE AM was a multiversal threat. "

" @Pr_Beyonder said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

Is SCW AM really above Eternity,Oblivion,Death,Galactus,the In-Betweener,Master Order,Lord Chaos, and every major Marvel abtract with the exception of LT? "

I think you're confusing SCW AM with CoIE AM. SCW was a weakling. CoIE AM was a multiversal threat. "

" @JediXMan said:

" @Pr_Beyonder said:

" @JediXMan said:

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" IG would crush Anti-Monitor like a little bug.   "

I stopped reading right there.  Sorry, but no.  The IG would be Sinestro Corps AM or probably current AM (who's probably the same as SC AM) but not CoIE Anti-Monitor. "

Is SCW AM really above Eternity,Oblivion,Death,Galactus,the In-Betweener,Master Order,Lord Chaos, and every major Marvel abtract with the exception of LT? "

I think you're confusing SCW AM with CoIE AM. SCW was a weakling. CoIE AM was a multiversal threat. "

Exactly. All energy from one universe isn't enough to destroy almost whole multiverse. And IG outside of it's own universe don't have control of energy from other universes according to FF 570-571. Richards from other universes had IG and wasn't able to defeat Celestials. IMO they weren't because they didn't take enough power from they universes and they weren't connected to them. This means that IG can control energies of people, places, minds, souls, etc. only from one universe. And no being from 616 is able to defeat COIE AM to my knowledge.  Marvel's COIE AM is Hunger in full power, but he never was in full power in 616, so Thanos can't take his energy to defeat COIE AM. In this battle he will win, but he isn't multiversal threat in COIE AM level. "

" The other IGs aren't as powerful as the main IG. There was only one Infinity Being and 616 is the main marvel universe.  (1)
The Magus was going to merge two universes together with the IG. (2)
It was said that 30 something Cosmic Cubes still weren't nearly as good as the IG (3)
(each CCU is universal as proven by Kubik and Thanos). (4)
Finally, an incomplete IG stopped a nullification blast that could've destroyed the multi-verse (5)
whereas the Anti-Monitor barely survived the creation blast.  The Gauntlet >> Anti-Monitor. "

" @RiseofApocalypse said:

" The other IGs aren't as powerful as the main IG. There was only one Infinity Being and 616 is the main marvel universe.  (1)
The Magus was going to merge two universes together with the IG. (2)
It was said that 30 something Cosmic Cubes still weren't nearly as good as the IG (3)
(each CCU is universal as proven by Kubik and Thanos). (4)
Finally, an incomplete IG stopped a nullification blast that could've destroyed the multi-verse (5)
whereas the Anti-Monitor barely survived the creation blast.  The Gauntlet >> Anti-Monitor. "

1.Proves? Because if there was only one Nemezis, there shoudn't be any other IG at all. They exist, so coming from one multiverse to the other had to create them in all univerese. Also, IG by it self don't have any energy. It controls many kind of energies. 2.What isn't in opposition to what I've said. Energy from two universal busters will be enough for that. And 616 has them for sure. 3.Nothing suprised. 4.When it was proved? 5.Scans? "

Try to answer exactly on points.
 
1.Sorry, but I don't remember that situation.
2.You didn't get the point. IG thanks to Power Gem can summon all energy from universe and from all people from it. So if 616 has two universal busters, IG is at least able to destroy two universes. So IG is more than one universal buster, but not multiversal buster.
4.Kubik didn't destroy universe, but just a realm. It wasn't universe.
5.a)He stopped Quasar from using it, he didn't take blast from UN.
b)UN isn't a multiversal busting weapon.

No the infinity gauntlet has no chance against COIE antimonitor. As far as I know the most powerful abstract thanos defeated was eternity, who is below the spectre at regular levels. Peak spectre would defeat thanos.

t@King Saturn said:

Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet should win here...

i second that :)

@JediXMan said:

Spectre, in his greatest showing, was able to fight CoIE Anti-Monitor. Spectre wins.

Nothing Thanos couldn't do with the IG, personally imo. I'll take Thanos over the Spectre, he much more smarter and cunning, with ultimate power in his hands.

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

@Illuminatus said:

@CitizenBane said:

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

Perhaps they're under the impression the battle takes place in a neutral universe where the IG has power? *Shrugs*.

Even so, it only affects one universe. How's it supposed to beat a multiversal entity?

@Illuminatus said:

@CitizenBane said:

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

Perhaps they're under the impression the battle takes place in a neutral universe where the IG has power? *Shrugs*.

Even so, it only affects one universe. How's it supposed to beat a multiversal entity?

@CitizenBane said:

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

I'm talking bout before the retcon, when Thanos wrecked the whole mu. Thanos from IG saga, the original, would do no different to Spectre than what he did to the whole MU at that point. The retcons came afterwards. Just like the AM and how he got retconned and downplayed/powered!!

@LubeMan said:

@CitizenBane said:

Spectre. What is with all the Thanos-with-IG threads getting bumped? You'd think people would at least keep in mind that the IG only works in one universe.

I'm talking bout before the retcon, when Thanos wrecked the whole mu. Thanos from IG saga, the original, would do no different to Spectre than what he did to the whole MU at that point. The retcons came afterwards. Just like the AM and how he got retconned and downplayed/powered!!

OP says nothing about before the retcon. Current IG will not do squat to the Spectre, who was multiversal pre and post Crisis.

Not sure bout Spectre being multi versal, he couldn't even take down Emperor Joker?

@LubeMan said:

Not sure bout Spectre being multi versal, he couldn't even take down Emperor Joker?

Emperor Joker was multiversal, it was stated that he was destabilizing all of reality, not just the New Earth universe.

But, was not all of reality within the DCU? Was there a multiverse at that point? had the multiverse already came back then? I thought it came back with IC, when SBP with Alex Luthor were trying to bring back all the different earths? So.......