Batman and Lex Luthor run the marvel gauntlet

Batman and Lex Luthor run gauntlet

The duo has 1 year of collaborated prep-time and has access to all suits and equipment

Round 1 - X-men

Round 2 - Avengers

Round 3 - Ultimates

Round 4 - All teams

Round 5 - Thanos

Round 6 - Surtur and he’s demon army

Round 7 - Galactus and he’s herald silver surfer

Round 8 - Odin and he’s Asgardians

Round 9 - Thanos and the eternals

Round 10 - Chaos Wars Hercules and friends (no still force oneshotting)

Knowledge of opponents for all rounds

Clear. Both are prep-masters, one year of time to plan makes this relatively easy for them.

Clear.

Stop at 5. Nothing they do can prep for Thanos. Honestly, they probably stop at 4 too.

@Knowledge_King: I need ideas for future rounds I just realised thanos has no counter to the still force

@mbatz: Galactus? Dormammu? Odin?

Really need to catch up on Snyder's JL run because it looks like something's going down. For now though I'll say they stop at 4 which could potentially change if either of them solos their respective super powered armies anytime soon

That’s Lex? The Hell happened to him?

@mazahs117: @the_gaurdian:

Luthor solod the JL

He impaled the superman after already killing Batman and Wonder Woman using he’s half human-Martian physiology here’s the wiki buddy: https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Alexander_Luthor_(Prime_Earth)

Used the ultraviolet lantern ring to create a force field stopping blasts from John GL and spawned ultraviolet constructs in he’s stomach

Paused flash in time and reverted him to a baby and said he should thank himself since he’ll live as long as gorilla gross doesn’t eat him

They should skim through everyone until they struggle with Thanks but still ultimately win tbh

Clear easily.

Batman preps them out of existence

Should I add round 6 and 7 now or does anyone have any query surrounding round 5

Batman has various methods of becoming op, go read dark nights metal before creating such threads
Red Death solos all rounds at once.

If it's one year for each, then yeah, they can solo everyone here.

If it's one year for the whole gauntlet and they don't have any knowledge on the guys they are fighting, I might see them having trouble in the later rounds.

@mbatz: Shoot I wanna check it out now instead of the end of the year lol

Emma or Psylocke can solo round 1 with TP

@mbatz: what story arcs does this Luthor appear in?

With a year of prep, you gotta understand that they will have likely covered telepathy completely by that point.

Technology already exists in universe that can block out telepaths anyway so the extra year they have makes the possibility of telepathy being a problem so statistically low that you'd be forgiven for saying it was impossible.

1 year prep and Batman's final bat-suit could possibly solo

the only actual threat that could beat the final-batsuit is Galactus

What happened to lex?

OT: Based off what I've heard he could stop at 5 or clear.

@mattyboi: It's "Apex Lex" from the current JL run. I highly recommend reading.

Batman and Luthor clear.

Stops at Thanos, who is smarter than both of them.

@professorrespect: honestly I see Emma and Psylocke solo’ing because the team has no knowledge, and they don’t typically prepare for telepaths unless they’d have knowledge

@emmafrostxmen: A year? A guy as paranoid as Batman? I doubt he's never going to not see telepathy as a problem with guys like Maxwell Lord and Manhunter on his mind.

It's a no brainer.

@professorrespect: show me one instance of Batman with no knowledge preparing for a telepath

@emmafrostxmen: The entire Brother Eye ship was designed with cloaking tech to ignore telepathy so guys like Manhunter wouldn't find it. I know that's with knowledge, but the question itself is a silly one.

Honestly, your point is ludicrous- a whole year to prepare for a range of threats, and telepathy will never be one to come up or be covered despite the fact that one of the most powerful heroes on the Earth is a powerful telepath himself? As I said in my first response, the idea that a year long brainstorm about meta threats between two of the greatest minds on Earth will never discuss telepathy at all is statistically impossible from my regard.

@professorrespect: It’s really not ludicrous at all. They have a year but Batman doesn’t know what he’s facing. The OP didn’t mention any knowledge and Batman has never prepared for TP without knowledge in the past despite preparing for other abilities without knowledge.

@emmafrostxmen: idk man, your point to me seems like a lawyer trying to find some loophole to justify a rather unfair point.

They have a year with all of their suits and equipment and plenty of resources to do stuff, but they won't even go over telepathy because "no knowledge tho" seems not only dismissive of the creative potential of the pair, but rather.....lowballish? I'd rather not go that far but the point being made is pretty silly considering they've prepped for worse with little to no resources. The closest reference point for meta threats is the Justice League- so based on that, I'd doubt they'd try and cover everyone bar the guy that Superman is scared of and who already stomped the League by himself with telepathy.

Simply put, just because there isn't a exact feat of the actual thing happening, doesn't mean that we can't creatively assume that said thing doesn't happen at all despite the terms and conditions that the OP has put down. If it said that they start with no resources, or had, say, a week of prep, I might buy telepathy not being covered, but here? Massively doubtful at best, ludicrous at worst.

@emmafrostxmen: @professorrespect: Lex Luthor is a telepath and he can make Batman one too by making him a Martian hybrid too either the final batsuit has TP resistance and the Lex Corp building does too. Either way Lex can pause Jean in time, turn her to a baby make her old all using the still force or straight up spawn ultraviolet constructs inside her. The more I see it I regret the first 5 rounds they all get turned into children with a wave of a hand

@mbatz: thanks

I don't know about Lex but Batman isn't getting past Round 2

uhmm I see 3 omega mutants about another 3 insanely powerful telepath, one mutant who can phase through solid objects. that's not even including namor. they don't get beyond number 1.

@butterflykyss: @captainsweatpan:

Imagine insider suit, hellbat suit and an army of justice busters all remote controlled from Lex Luthor impenetrable spaceship

Insider gives JL abilities, speed force, green lantern ring, flight, invisiblity, teleportation, heat vision, lasso of truth and X-ray vision

Hellbat gives invisibility, super strength on par with Superman and darkseid

And an army of justice busters made to counteract all members of the league

The avengers don’t stand a chance

I could even mention the final batsuit made to kill trillions and merge the dead with their counterparts in the universe being made by the world forger

They really don’t stand a chance against Batman alone

Lex can just turn all of them into children, TP doesnt work instantly on other Telepaths which Lex is and he can make Batman into one two

Anyway speedforce uses move faster than thought anyway, and like I said army of hellbat/insider hybrids that are remote controlled will kill almost all of them

@mbatz: don't debate in your own threads

When did Batman build an army of suits like that? From my knowledge it took all his resources to build one

Like I said, I don't know about this Lex so I only commented about Batman

@wolverinebatmanftw: how do they beat Thanos?

@emmafrostxmen: Lex has telepathy here because of his martian physiology.

@captainsweatpan: Sorry to break the rules but thanos could get turned into a baby literally

And when I commented saying it’s collaborated I meant Lex could make Batman into a Martian-human hybrid like he did to himself.

The hellbat and insider costed Batman all most nothing since justice league services are free but he does pay for the justice league watchtower and its resources so... only justice buster costed a lot

And Lex can clone Batman over and over as a human-Martian hybrid

@mbatz: how would Thanos get turned into a baby? He's resisted reality warping before in the Nexus of realities

Like I said I know nothing about this Lex so I don't know why you're talking about him to me when I literally said "BATMAN" ISN'T GETTING PAST NO. 2

Your reply should be in relation to Batman alone because that's all I was talking about, I'm not interested in this Lex until I read his story myself so stop talking about him to me because I didn't say anything about him, my post was in relation to Batman ALONE and I'm not interested in anything else, talk about what Lex will do with other people

You need to show proof that the specific rare resorces needed for Hellbat and Insider suits are sufficient to build an "army" of them

@captainsweatpan: I understand I was just saying that Lex can make Batman like him, he had the intention of doing this to the whole of humanity but he wants perpetua to exact her plan first

And the insider didn’t require rare materials, and Luthor has Brainiac’s knowledge in latest comics so he will find the materials. Luthor made a spaceship that has travelled to the overvoid and he’s got a time machine which he used to send he’s 3 team to the past present and future. Acquiring materials isn’t an issue TBH.

But I’m not arguing just having a discussion to help since you don’t know about much Lex much but saying don’t argue Lex is like saying don’t argue Batman if he can make him just like himself.

@mbatz: again Lex, Lex, Lex, I didn't ask for help, I'll read the issues this version is in myself

So basically my orginal statement still stands, I don't know about Lex but Batman doesn't make it past no.2

Now whether Lex has something to say about that and will help him get past no.2 is a discussion I'm not interested in so you should probably have it with someone else until I read up on this version

@captainsweatpan:

Didn't the Hellbat manage to go toe to toe with Darkseid? I could see Bruce and Luthor improving the armour with time and resources to the point where it becomes powerful enough to beat down Thanos.

@wolverinebatmanftw: the Hellbat didn't really do anything to Darkseid, I don't know why it's so hyped up

Not to mention Thanos could just bfr it

@wolverinebatmanftw: @captainsweatpan: That’s incorrect the hellbat is at least superman level and could be down thanos with improvements

Hellbat can fly, turn invisible, fire energy blast, absorb energy and has the devastator protocol.

I’ll explain when the hellbat was first introduced it fought darkseid and I thought to myself that was PIS and acts of similar strength wouldn’t be shown later

Batman and robin (volume 2) issue 35

Now as I said I thought this would never repeat itself that was until an amped eradicator fulled by the souls of dead kryptonians fought superman and smacked him. Eradicator didn’t feel pain being repeatedly punched by superman when he accidentally absorbed Krypto but hellbat piloted by Lois Lane made him scream in agony and commend her for ingenuit. Superman only beat eradicator by being absorbed and absobing the souls inside of eradicator amping Supe but until that point only hellbat hurt eradicator.

Supes hitting eradicator after absorbing krypto

Eradicator who is unscathed by JoJo repetitive like punches

Hellbat making eradicator scream

Another scan for good measure

Superman (2016) issue 3-5

The third and final time which the hellbat was seen only confirms that the hellbat was superman level if not above and that was when Etrigan was on he’s deathbed and Batman had to fight a demon that beat Etrigan and we know from Action comics 762 Etrigan and superman are equals. The demon Batman fought was stronger than Etrigan and Batman’s normal punches weren’t hurting it so Batman had to initiate the devastator protocol HD beat the demon back to hell literally. Keep in mind punches that hurt darkseid didn’t phase this demon the devastator protocol demolished that demon so hellbat is easily above superman level.

Detective comics issue 998

Etrigan uppercutting superman to the moon

More fighting in the same issue

Etrigan going back home because he needs to contemplate what writers were thinking

Action Comic issue 762

Now people are gonna talk about the hellbat weakness and how it eats at metabolism but batman and Lex have 1 year of prep and all it would take is the LexCorp power core in the Lex warsuit sustain the hellbat eternally and combining it with insider suit and giving Batman Martian physiology and cloning him is possible

@mbatz: what exactly was incorrect?

Clears. Batman has taken out Darkseid with prep.

They stop at the Ultimates if Galactus is included in their roster. Otherwise, they stop at Thanos.