@dark_cloud_: Can you call the amalgam either HeiHu, Hei jr, Black Tiger, or Hu so it doesn't get confusing? We have two characters named Hei here.
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Right, dodging lasers doesn't always mean the character has light-speed reaction. The problem with that is, as far as I know, lasers don't travel slower than light-speed. So, Jessica would have to have light-speed reaction in order to dodge those lasers - I know it's difficult to process considering it's not actually presented in her profile. I can only work with what I got. My apologies, they weren't Agents of Hydra, they were Agents of SHIELD. Here's the image. In the image, there is no indication whether she evade before or after the lasers were shot, but I am inclined to think 'after' considering she's in motion and bent over a couple of them. To be nice, I'll let this one slide.
1. At best this is a high showing, in which case you would have to show more feats for to prove that she can consistently do this. Comic book characters have plenty of times done something ridiculously out of their league(ex. Spiderman beating Firelord) but most people recognize that they aren't on that level. At the very least she again aim dodged which moots your point.
2. Here is the rules concerning characters' speed limits.
Movement, Combat, and Travel Speeds is limited to Mach 5. Reaction Speed is limited to Mach 15.
Light speed is much faster than this and therefore is against the rules.
I do want to point out a concern of mine with the image of the Sonic Boom Kick. It's an impressive feat, but one thing I noticed was that Hei was aware that she was there, as he was looking at her. He could also see the kick coming. But unfortunately, the kick struck, as he says in a surprising tone, "it hit!?" The he remembered what it was. There is no evidence in that image (or the 3 above it) that he's able to dodge Sonic Boom Kicks.
After questioning whether it hit or not he immediately said "no..... that was-- A sonic boom!" He was questioning whether it hit or not because the noise and the feeling of the sonic boom in his face. The kick itself obviously didn't hit. In fact it doesn't even matter if it hit or not because HeiHu's other parent Shiki could dodge an explosion from a close distance after it exploded which is actually a greater feat than dodging sonic boom kicks.
Tora beats Hei in terms of ground Speed due to no returning argument.+ 1 for Tora.
That has no affect on this battle. Being able to run at 34 mph is not going to help Tora when he is battling a character that can dodge bullets unless he is planning to run away. Just to prove how useless it is I'll show you Shiki battling an opponent that was moving so fast that several times during the fight he appeared as a blur. Spoilers she outclasses him in every way and is only defeated in the end because of morals.( Skip to 6:05)
Hei has no known fighting abilities but is prone to using discernible, improvised tactics in battle, as proven by some of his videos. Fortunately for Ryu, that shouldn't be an issue. Ryu's fighting abilities are mastered when it comes to his specific style, therefore he is used to muscle memory when performing the Ansatsuken and is more than capable of countering and defending against Hei's lacking combat prowess.
So being able to participate in a war involving Contractors who all have some super power like teledismemberment or gravity manipulation and being so formidable that he earned the name "Black Reaper" with nothing but some knives/wires isn't a testament to his fighting abilities? At the time he didn't even have his electricity powers. I would think that would improve his muscle memory and skills far better than training in a dojo.
I am partial to agree that cutting weapons can do a lot of damage to Tora (and Ryu), but blunt force would have to equal the explosive power of C4. Sources tell me that Hei can charge the knives with electrical energy, though it's finite. Ryu is skilled enough with Hadoukens that he can spam them, which could be used in deflecting the knives in the case that they were thrown at him. Not only that, but unless Hei is feeding electricity into them by some form of wire or else, the electrical energy will deplete the longer he's without contact. This can be argued if you can provide me with a scan, video instance of Hei's electrical knives acting without his touch or mechanism.
It's actually out of character for either Hei or Shiki to punch an opponent instead of using bladed weapons. Hei has never run out of electricity in a fight before if at all so it being finite does not matter. Also blunt force is not equal to either electrical damage or piercing damage meaning HeiHu can still take Tora out with a clean cut or touch.
Ryu has fought a man named Vega, who wears 3-claws and strikes at amazing speed - Vega is one of the fastest characters in the series, is Bison's right hand man, and can give Ryu a run for his money. Vega has rivaled Ken, whom is near-to-equal in skill with Ryu - Ryu only beats Ken in energy-output, as they both trained in the same Martial Art style from childhood. The reason I state this is, Ken beat Vega on three accounts in media, animated video and comics. Due to the Dark Hadou and Power of Nothingness, places him far above Ken in that aspect. With that in mind, Ryu is more than capable of dispatching Vega. In that, I believe by comparison, Vega is faster than Hei when it comes to knife/claw attacks.
Too bad that HeiHu can literally negate your energy output so this part of your argument holds little meaning.
I'm confused and uncertain on the AoE attack. Can you put that into context? Despite what the scan shows, how exactly was it being used? My sources claim that he can't use electrical energy through the air or concrete/ground without a source for the charge; for example, to use electricity on the ground, the ground would have to be wet, for the electrical particles to jump through it. This is just my understanding of how it works. Or am I reading that scan wrong and it's the girl doing it? And when you say "kill the energy blasts and Jessica's venom blasts," what do you mean? Would that AoE affect him biologically in preventing him from generating spiritual and bio-electrical energy? Or does it act like a shield and stop them from hitting him? What's the rate in which he can use the AoE - how many times can he utilize it in combat?
I never mentioned this as part of my argument. I said HeiHu would use his Mystic Eyes of Death Perception to negate or "kill" the energy blasts. I'll show the video of Shiki negating the TK so that you can get a visual aid and an extra quick explanation of her powers. In all honesty you should watch the whole thing for added context and remember that your energy blasts are actually visible so there is no reason why HeiHu can't "kill" Tora's energy blasts.( Skip to 2:55 if you want to be quick)
Energy-based attacks are part of his close quarters combat. There are moments where Ryu just doesn't use them, generally when he's fighting less skilled, slower or basic fodder characters. He chose non-murderous style for a reason. Ryu has experience fighting characters wanting to kill him - Ken (when taken over by Bison's Psycho Power), Bison, Vega, Balrog. If Hei shows his intent to kill, Ryu will figure it out and do his best.
How likely is he going to use it on an opponent he has no knowledge on while he is morals on?
Flight can distance himself and allow him to assess the battle as well as devise plans for attack or evasion strategies. Hearing increases his chances of recognizing Hei's sound of movement, perhaps before he makes an actual attack. Given that Tora could hop from wall to wall, enables him to strike at various angles if he chooses to use Surface-Crawling.
Unless you show me Ryu using these kinds of tactics I will stay with the impression that Tora will fly in for CQC and in most cases die from HeiHu utilizing his abilities in a way that'll end the fight as soon as possible.
And Pheromones, they should be a lot more serious for Hei to worry about. It allows Tora to, in a way, control whether Mystic Eyes is effective or not; they could warp Hei's perception, perhaps screw up his vision to the point that the lines disappear both visually and mentally. Or, Pheromones can cause Hei to, technically, give up the fight by forcing him to forfeit and run; in other words, repelling him.
1. I doubt with Ryu's mindset he'll actually use this before the fight ends. I think we can both agree that this fight won't take long no matter who wins too.
2. Hei has actually resisted illusions before by cutting himself and focusing in on the pain which is a tactic HeiHu can repeat in this fight.
EDIT: Here's a video that I forgot to add to answer a question I thought you had asked in your previous post. How's is Tora going to know that Mystic Eyes is being used? Easy. Here. Ryu and Ken are fighting M. Bison near the end of Street Fighter II. Ryu notices Bison's eyes glow, then Bison pulls away and energy begins emanating from his arms. The fact that Ryu was aware that Bison was doing something because of the eyes, the moment that Hei's eyes change to that of something different than his normal eyes, Ryu is going to know Hei is about to attack - it all falls back on Ryu's experience.
Why couldn't HeiHu just walk into the fight with his MEoDP already activated? Shiki walks into her fights with them on and HeiHu has no reason not to when he knows he is facing an opponent.
By all means, if you feel that this wasn't a fair calculation or conclusion, go ahead and argue my responses. I've also included Dragon to come by and check it out.
I will argue against most of your conclusions but its fair for you to argue for them. The only conclusion that is unfair is that Tora having light speed reactions because they are clearly against the rules and completely untrue. Otherwise this has been a very fun match so far.
Conclusions
- Tora's blunt force durability has no importance in this fight. HeiHu will only inflict piercing damage or electrical damage.
- HeiHu and Tora have roughly the same speed with Tora having some more mobility because of flight.
- Hei's mentality will give HeiHu the ruthlessness and cunning to use whatever means necessary is needed to end this fight quickly. Both Hei's electrical attacks, which take out full grown men with a tap, and Shiki's MEoDP gives him plenty of options to do so.
- While Ryu is a formidable martial artist Hei is also a proven formidable combatant against superhumans.
- You need to provide proof that with Ryu's mindset Tora will spam his energy attacks(which HeiHu can block anyway) against an unknown foe.
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