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Compared to what?? Comic books are ridiculous to the point where characters have plot device intelligence where they can invent dues ex machina machines to solve any manner of problem. Reed Richards, friend and ally of the X-Men and mutants, has built devices that have defeated omnipotent beings, cured uncurable ailments, and broke the very fabric of reality. Not to mention many of the X-Men have come back from death and have broken all laws of physics on a regular basis.
What is your measuring stick for what's "conventional" exactly??
Compared to other extinction plots? Reed Richards also failed to make Kitty Pryde tangible and myself not being the biggest FF expert still pretty sure he failed at lots of other plot conveniences. Yes it is plot convenience, ok, I'm not arguing that. It all depends on how the context rolls. Going back to the first example, depowering mutants was achieved with a universal+ force, shutting down the X-gene within the fabric of reality. Now tell me please how will you deal with it. Probably, with something that is equally powerful because all the conventional, "genius" ways (Endangered Species) proved to be unsuccessful. So no man made plot device here. Plot convenience, but one that works perfectly. It was simply above anyone else to solve, no matter how silly wiping a gene out of existence even sounds.
Now no need to be a genius to understand how you can deal with a toxic cloud in a world where people like the ones I mentioned above exist.
Well, yeah, you are kind of supporting my point here except you are being a bit more snarky where I am being nihilistic about the whole thing. It's stupid. It's always stupid.
Not always, but most of the times. I want it to become less rare, why is that so criminal? :p
It's comic books about people with super powers who punch the majority of their problems.
But sometimes it does feel good, and thus good enough in pushing the right button. So, art being art?
I don't see how the ridiculousness of the X-Men not being able to survive a gas cloud that some of them could easily dispel is any different from a number of other problems they have encountered.
Well, sorry, but if you're not seeing a problem here, let alone the one that has to be dealt with for the sake of future stories at the very least, I think I cannot help you see.
There was a story where they sacrificed themselves to stop a God from destroying the fabric of reality by letting their souls be weaponized, then they were reincarnated 1 minute later with no lasting effects, Jean "returned" to life by healing a telekinetic cocoon, Magneto has seemingly died several times, including being impaled by Wolverine, and has returned to life each time, but the suspension of disbelief required to believe that some cloud would hinder the X-Men when some of them of them could stop it is too much??
Well, yes? None of what you mentioned is even quarter as idiotic. There are other descriptions for those instances, but none of them would be "idiotic".
Or maybe it's just me? Someone quote me, because I feel like I'm missing something.
It would be like after you read the Galactus story arc in Fantastic Four 48 you had an problem with the Fantastic Four being challenged by the likes of the Red Ghost, because it was "unbelievable" because characters should have been able to deal with his menace that he launched in the story line.
It's kinda apples and oranges. I'm not seeing the parallel. There are different kinds of threats, the question is, if this threat is legitimately plausible or not? If not, then the writer has failed and needs to be called out on his bull. Every single time. Simple as that.
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Demanding better storytelling and quality should never get old no matter how often it has been ignored. That's the way I see it.
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