Itachi Uchiha is still evil

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#1  Edited By USSJ3071

no a 5 minute half baked "im sorry" doesnt mean much.

he

- brutally tortured and mindraped an innocent screaming helpless child for 3 days straight

- brutally tortured sasuke a second time and beat him into a possibly permanent coma, in order to twist and manipulate him into becoming a hateful, power hungry, snarling villain

- attempted to trick sasuke into trying to slaughter innocent konoha citizens in cold blood, for power.

- committed mass illegal unnecessary genocide on a righteous rebellion that tried to stop the corrupt ruling class, lied about it right to everyones face, and made sure danzo/elders got away with it scot free

- allowed danzo to get away with attacking and mutilating shisui

- let danzo continue brainwashing and murdering his own people in order to create emotionless drones who worship him

- sold out konoha by letting obito inside of its own borders via making an illegal treasonous deal with him

- part of the deal with obito was attempting to leave everywhere and everyone but konoha to be slaughtered

- threatened to commit high treason against konoha and sell national secrets to its enemies

- betrayed tsunade and committed high treason by refusing to inform her of uchiha genocide/national secrets

- tortured kakashi into a coma for no reason other than to make kakashi suffer. then ordered kakashi's attempted murder at kisame's hand, leaving konoha without one of its top fighters for weeks.

- attempted to capture and kill naruto

- betrayed mankind and attempted to start a catastrophic world war by aiding in the murders of 6 other innocent jinchurikis, ripped out weapons of mass destruction from their bodies and sealed them into a statue only controlled by rinnegan

- psychologically tortured naruto for getting in his way, even to the point of naruto crying horrified tears

- attempted to have gai and naruto murdered by giving up information on them to akatsuki

- refused to tell anyone anything about akatsuki and was willing to kill kakashi to see nothing about them gets out

- tried to trick sasuke into murdering his own blood on false pretenses and beat him almost to death which would ensure sauskes own death at obito or kisame's hands.

- assuming obito inexplicably spares sasuke, the backup plan was to permanently erase sasukes mind and enslave him to serve danzo for eternity.

- left anko to die, knowing full well kabuto had her.

- did absolutely nothing to even try to stop yagura, hanzo, obito, nagato, danzo, homura or koharu and as a result allowed countless to die

he betrayed sasuke, he betrayed konoha, he betrayed everything he was raised to believe and all the laws of the nation he claimed to support

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He was undercover what did you want him to do ? I hate Itachi but the plan was for him to betray the Leaf as decided by the elders and for him to make Sasuke strong and in the end have him return to the Leaf and make amends

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Itachi can suck my dick

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#4  Edited By USSJ3071

He was undercover

no he wasnt. he is truly out for himself and a treasonous monster

betray the Leaf as decided by the elders and for him to make Sasuke strong and in the end have him return to the Leaf and make amends

horrible plan and completely impossible.

sasuyke doesnt need to be strong. the village will get along fine without him. why shove undeserved power down the throat of an unstable boy who's very blood means hes predestined to misuse it and go insane? itachi would and did create a monster. the philosophy of konoha is that you're truly strong only after you've become loyal to your comrades and rely on them to protect the greater good. thats the whole meaning of "those who betray their comrades are worse than garbage". so what does it say about itachis philosophy that he is willing to completely betray konoha's ideals and sacrifice his own innocent comrades for sasuke's power? he would be lower than garbage, right?

why would sasuke return to konoha after declaring them all worthless weaklings and murdering their jin in cold blood painfully? thats the absolute last thing he'd do. extremely suicidal.

kakashi and sakura wouldnt stop until they had sauskes head on a spike. so spare me this impossibility. and even if he doesn't then danzo will kill sasuke on sight. obito also had a plan to kill or corrupt whoever won itachi vs sasuke. sasuke has no way of getting back to konoha alive.

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Well, you can blame Kishomoto for the ill conceived retcon.

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Actually, does the OP have any scans? Cause I'm drawing a blank on like half of these.

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While I agree Itachi is hardly a hero, some of these claims are exaggerated, or just flat out wrong.

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Nah, it was all justified.

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@marc_55 said:

While I agree Itachi is hardly a hero, some of these claims are exaggerated, or just flat out wrong.

he's whatever the Hidden Leaf needs him to be, because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector...Itachi Uchiha

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@marc_55 said:

While I agree Itachi is hardly a hero, some of these claims are exaggerated, or just flat out wrong.

he's whatever the Hidden Leaf needs him to be, because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector...Itachi Uchiha

nailed it.

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#12  Edited By Yassassin

Yeah, Kishimoto is a shit writer, and clearly didn't think Itachi's heel–face Turn out.

Who doesn't know this?

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#13  Edited By Marc_55

@tvc-15: Well, the seeds for it were planted in Part 1, but he lacks execution.

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@solid_snake97 said:
@marc_55 said:

While I agree Itachi is hardly a hero, some of these claims are exaggerated, or just flat out wrong.

he's whatever the Hidden Leaf needs him to be, because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector...Itachi Uchiha

Wow best answer

Someone give this guy a reward

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I detect a hint of salt from the OP.

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Didn't do nuffin
Didn't do nuffin

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he's whatever the Hidden Leaf needs him to be, because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector...Itachi Uchiha

Lol. Nice.

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agree with OP

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no a 5 minute half baked "im sorry" doesnt mean much.

It wasn't half baked and how does it not? He truly was sorry and he apologized for not choosing a better path or way to deal with things.

brutally tortured and mindraped an innocent screaming helpless child for 3 days straight

- brutally tortured sasuke a second time and beat him into a possibly permanent coma, in order to twist and manipulate him into becoming a hateful, power hungry, snarling villain

Nonsense

To stay in character that everyone sees him as. He couldn't possibly let anyone find flaws in his outer self.

He used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke to replay that day so that Sasuke would hate him more and gain more more power out of his hatred and desire to kill Itachi.

committed mass illegal unnecessary genocide on a righteous rebellion that tried to stop the corrupt ruling class, lied about it right to everyones face, and made sure danzo/elders got away with it scot free

WTF is wrong with you? Did you even watch Naruto?

Unnecessary? If he did not slaughter the Uchiha clan, a third world war would be triggered you moron, he did for the greater good.

allowed danzo to get away with attacking and mutilating shisui

There is nothing he could do about it. Danzo is extremely important to the leaf. If he were killed. The balance and hierarchy of power would destabalise the Leaf.

let danzo continue brainwashing and murdering his own people in order to create emotionless drones who worship him

Are you stupid? What does the foundation have anything to do with Itachi?

sold out konoha by letting obito inside of its own borders via making an illegal treasonous deal with him

To help him slaughter the uchiha which was for the greater good.

part of the deal with obito was attempting to leave everywhere and everyone but konoha to be slaughtered

I guess it's evil to ensure the safety if his village.

And the points just keep getting stupider. I'm done.

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#21  Edited By AbstractRaze

For great constructive changes, great sacrifices must be done...

Itachi is the definition of having guts and determination, he isn't a spoiled brat.

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Itachi = The Dark Knight

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#23  Edited By buttersdaman000

Well, that's what happens when you make drastic changes to a character simply because he's popular. I think it's painfully obvious that none of this was planned until after part 2 was well underway. Itachi was always supposed to be just a villain but he grew too popular and changes were made. Only thing is, Kishi went all out in making him a villain so any excuse/explanation would be as lame as what we got.

Like, imagine if Toriyama suddenly decided to make Frieza a sympathetic hero at the end of the namek saga,

"I only destroyed planets, murdered and enslaved billions, and became a racist to save....my brother and village."

Lmaoooo

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Well, that's what happens when you make drastic changes to a character simply because he's popular. I think it's painfully obvious that none of this was planned until after part 2 was well underway. Itachi was always supposed to be just a villain but he grew too popular and changes were made. Only thing is, Kishi went all out in making him a villain so any excuse/explanation would be as lame as what we got.

Like, imagine if Toriyama suddenly decided to make Frieza a sympathetic hero at the end of the namek saga,

"I only destroyed planets, murdered and enslaved billions, and became a racist to save....my brother and village."

Lmaoooo

Well said.

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WTF!

Some of this can be answered by carefully reading the manga and some extra material, the other points are just plain stupid.

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? He truly was sorry and he apologized for not choosing a better path or way to deal with things.

he wasnt truly sorry,. he just got caught with his pants down about a plan that was obviously evil and going to fail. he didnt apologise for anything except for failing to keep sasuke in line and serving a brutal evil government. he full on admitted his plan was stealing sauskes free will and enslaving him for eternity

To stay in character that everyone sees him as. He couldn't possibly let anyone find flaws in his outer self.

he is exactly like everyone sees him as. a brutal evil maniac. and given obito knew his reasoning the entire time ANYWAY, then itachi is the world's worst spy. his enemy already knew!

Unnecessary? If he did not slaughter the Uchiha clan, a third world war would be triggered you moron,

no it wont. thats completely impossible. uchihas were outnumbered a thousand to one, and their sole plan was a sneak attack in the dead of night. a covert black ops coup like that is either gonna succeed very fast or fail very fast. not devolve into war. if they thought they could take konoha head on, they would have just...done so. furthermore, the other nations wont care. they didnt care when minato died. or when orochimaru invaded konoha.

furhtermore, how exactly do you need to slaughter the uchiha clan just to defuse their coup? just kill the leader if you absolutely have to kill someone. it didnt seem like they were gonna even try to fight once their jig was up (see fugaku immediately surendering and letting himself die when the jig was up).

do you mean that mikoto all by herself can take on konoha and start a world war? madness. read some sun tzu before saying you need to genocide an entire clan just to defuse their uprising lol. and why shouldn't they uprise? usually its right and courageous to stand up to oppressive regimes. if every rebellion in history were that scared of neighboring regimes then NO REBELLION WOULD EVER HAPPEN.

let me guess, you would slaughter all rebels in star wars rather than have a galactic civil war to overthrow the emperor? is that your big plan?

he did for the greater good.

he did it to maintain konoha's boot on the people's throat, and ti maintain its absolute power. he did nothing to even try to reform the regime, who's evilness was the whole reason for the rebellion. greater good would be putting a stop to danzo. greater good would be not torturing sauske to madness.

He used Tsukuyomi on Sasuke to replay that day so that Sasuke would hate him more and gain more more power out of his hatred and desire to kill Itachi.

which is illegal, immoral cruel madness and only succeeded in giving undeserved power to a slowly more insane monster? is that your big plan for all national guard recruits is it? just shove hate and lust for power down their throats because you hope it might make them stronger? ive never heard anything so barbaric. and its not like sasuke would have just stayed weak. was minato tortured as a child? no. but he turned out pretty damn powerful.

Are you stupid? What does the foundation have anything to do with Itachi?

everything. itachi knew about it and did nothing

because he's the hero the Leaf deserves, but not the one it needed, so they hunted him because he can take it, because he's not a hero..he's a silent guardian.. a watchful protector

itachi is a vicious insane psychopath so how is he a guardian or someone anyone needs? such a dangerous unstable lunatic is not needed by anybody.

There is nothing he could do about it. Danzo is extremely important to the leaf. If he were killed. The balance and hierarchy of power would destabalise the Leaf.

danzo is destabilisng the leaf and is not important to it at all. hes its sworn enemy and a traitor to not just them but all of humanity., as well as a sociopathic torturer and brainwasher of innocent orphans for his illegal personal goon army. which he was crreating to kill hiruzen and take over konoha.

killing him is absolutely paramount to safeguarding innocents. i dont know how you can go as far as defending a guy like danzo lol.

To help him slaughter the uchiha whichwas for the greater good.

but not killing off obito who was a danger to the world? not danzo? not hiruzen who signed off on genocide and thus who knows what else hes capable of?

also how is itachi so sure that obito is going to help him? obito can teleport. he could teleport when the fighting starts and leave itachi to die.only reason he didnt was he saw itachi as a potentially useful chess piece.

Itachi is the definition of having guts and determination, he isn't a spoiled brat.

itchi is the definition of a cowardly, torturing snake who only cares about himself and his own twisted brutal plans to enact insane torture on innocents. true spoiled, brat who betrayed everything he was raised to believe and fight for.

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I mean, you're hating on him as if he's real and stole your bike or something. He's dead, so...

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Yeah, Kishimoto is a shit writer, and clearly didn't think Itachi's heel–face Turn out.

Who doesn't know this?

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I mean, you're hating on him as if he's real and stole your bike or something. He's dead, so...

...spit on his treasonous murdering corpse?

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@socajunkie said:

I mean, you're hating on him as if he's real and stole your bike or something. He's dead, so...

...spit on his treasonous murdering corpse?

Maybe do the dougie on his grave 2