if you could charge heroes....

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#1  Edited By castleking

if you had to build a legal case against heroes, who would it be?  and why?
 what would be the charges?

anybody think heroes are just as bad as the criminals they catch or worse?


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now how as a goverment law enforcement agent go, about arresting and enforcing the law?

working with only the general public knowledge and government intel of the characters..

using reasonable tactics and knowing your yearly budget  will be reviewed..

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#2  Edited By The_Martian

Punisher would probably be the easiest

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#3  Edited By castleking

really? i figure ironman....with the hulk fiasco...

kidnapping, false inprisonment.. public endangerment.. vigilantism 1st degree murder  2nd degree mur

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#4  Edited By Zoom

Vigilantism?  He's a registered hero and head of SHIELD.  There's no vigilantism in it.

Kidnapping?  False imprisonment?  The Hulk (despite what certain people said during that series) is a murderer.  Maybe he wasn't in control of himself and maybe he's made up for it with heroics but there's no question that the Hulk is a danger to the public.  Even during Civil War, everybody he had arrested had broken a law.  The negative zone prison was probably illegal but most of what Iron Man has done lately was simply unethical, not illegal.

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#5  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
Zoom said:
"Vigilantism?  He's a registered hero and head of SHIELD.  There's no vigilantism in it.

Kidnapping?  False imprisonment?  The Hulk (despite what certain people said during that series) is a murderer.  Maybe he wasn't in control of himself and maybe he's made up for it with heroics but there's no question that the Hulk is a danger to the public.  Even during Civil War, everybody he had arrested had broken a law.  The negative zone prison was probably illegal but most of what Iron Man has done lately was simply unethical, not illegal."

Technically both Hulk and Iron Man should have life imprisonment....but thats just my opinion lol
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#6  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
The Punisher  !  Why did you allow Dolph Lungdren to play you in that God Awful 1990's Punisher film...

lol
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#7  Edited By castleking

that movie rocked better then the last one

"here is justice here is punishment.."

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#8  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
castleking said:
"that movie rocked better then the last one

"here is justice here is punishment..""
I thought the first Punisher film was lame... the one with Thomas Jane was much better
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#9  Edited By castleking
Zoom said:
"Vigilantism?  He's a registered hero and head of SHIELD.  There's no vigilantism in it.

Kidnapping?  False imprisonment?  The Hulk (despite what certain people said during that series) is a murderer.  Maybe he wasn't in control of himself and maybe he's made up for it with heroics but there's no question that the Hulk is a danger to the public.  Even during Civil War, everybody he had arrested had broken a law.  The negative zone prison was probably illegal but most of what Iron Man has done lately was simply unethical, not illegal."
you  know taking the law into your own hands is illegal right.. and everything he did was before the registration act..

and being in charge of a government agency doesn't make your action less punishable...


King Saturn said:
"castleking said:
"that movie rocked better then the last one

"here is justice here is punishment..""
I thought the first Punisher film was lame... the one with Thomas Jane was much better"

well to be honest i think they both sucked
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#10  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
Really ? Wow.. thats something
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#11  Edited By Nighthunter

Superman

he is an illegal immigrant after all :P

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#12  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
Nighthunter said:
"Superman

he is an illegal immigrant after all :P"
LMFAO
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#13  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator
Zoom said:
"Vigilantism?  He's a registered hero and head of SHIELD.  There's no vigilantism in it.

Kidnapping?  False imprisonment?  The Hulk (despite what certain people said during that series) is a murderer.  Maybe he wasn't in control of himself and maybe he's made up for it with heroics but there's no question that the Hulk is a danger to the public.  Even during Civil War, everybody he had arrested had broken a law.  The negative zone prison was probably illegal but most of what Iron Man has done lately was simply unethical, not illegal."

If you are in charge of a Governent Agency it doesnt automatically make you able ot do whatever you want....you can still be tried in court...If you are using your power like Tony was to accomplish your own ends, not uphold the law then it is indeed vigilantism- and illegal.
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#14  Edited By Nighthunter

he also overcomes the speed limits....

and doesn't show a passport when he goes to another country :P

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#15  Edited By castleking
King Saturn said:
"Really ? Wow.. thats something
"
well both movies had some horrible acting, hope the new one is better. only part i liked was the  russian part.

Nighthunter said:
"Superman

he is an illegal immigrant after all :P"

he's done worse then just work without papers... didnt't he try to take over the world a few times?   mutilation of a criminal manslaughter death  of people with use of his malfuctioning supermen.
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#16  Edited By Nighthunter

and he makes fun of bald people, poor Lex probably has a disease :P

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#17  Edited By Slinger
castleking said:
"you  know taking the law into your own hands is illegal right.. and everything he did was before the registration act..

and being in charge of a government agency doesn't make your action less punishable..."

Lunacyde said:
"If you are in charge of a Governent Agency it doesnt automatically make you able ot do whatever you want....you can still be tried in court...If you are using your power like Tony was to accomplish your own ends, not uphold the law then it is indeed vigilantism- and illegal."
Doesn't sound like you guys really understand Tony's goals at all, or how he accomplished them. There were very few occasions that Tony Stark actually acted outside the law, most of the time he worked within the confines of legality. Earlier versions though (before he was Secretary of Defense and Avengers liason to the UN) could have been charged with owning an unlicensed firearm, or operating an aircraft while intoxicated.
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#18  Edited By castleking

how did he work within the law may i ask...

good one on the firearm  and intoxication..

but i think we can get him on more then just  a firearm with the suit.

what's higher  then fire arm  weapons of mass destruction maybe

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#19  Edited By NightFang3

Batman would be at the top of my list.

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#20  Edited By The_Martian

Nick Fury would be pretty easy too. With the whole Secret War thing.

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#21  Edited By The Minuteman
Nobody said:
"Nick Fury would be pretty easy too. With the whole Secret War thing."
Yeah, I'm pretty sure treason charges would be pretty easy to stick him with.
castleking said:
"how did he work within the law may i ask..."
I am referring to his time working within the government, I'm not greatly familiar with his actions before that. I may or may not come back to this (I'm a very busy man, lol) but in the mean time, it's not the defense's obligation to prove innocence, it's the prosecution's responsibility to prove guilt. So I would ask you to give specific examples of times he was guilty of the charges you have made of him, and I will argue his defense.
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#22  Edited By castleking

senting hulk away against his will in a shuttle..

kidnapping.. false inprisonment

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#23  Edited By geraldthesloth

Foolkilller

have you seen the stuff that guy does

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#24  Edited By The Minuteman
castleking said:
"senting hulk away against his will in a shuttle..

kidnapping.. false inprisonment"
That was facilitated by SHIELD with authority by the US government. I see no crime there.
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#25  Edited By castleking

hmm.. coming back and destroying the city 2nd degree man slaughter for  ironman and it is still a crime regardless if the government backed it up... which is why alot of times Gov. make black ops missions..

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#26  Edited By castleking

BATMAN THE MOST OBVIOUS VIGILANTISM unregistered vehicles

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#27  Edited By Slinger

I would say conspiracy charges would be in order for the whole of the Illuminati.

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#28  Edited By castleking

true they thought about it and planned it

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#29  Edited By Zoom
castleking said:
"you  know taking the law into your own hands is illegal right.. and everything he did was before the registration act.."

Shield is a security organization.  A security organization "kidnapping" a murderer is not illegal.  Deporting him from the planet?  It probably is in 616.  I doubt any nations currentlyhave laws about it because deporting somebody from the planet isn't something we can very easily do at this point but whatever.

Besides, if you really wanted to arrest heroes for vigilantism, there are hundreds of offenders of those laws (in places where citizens arrest is illegal).  Not like it would really hold up in court though.

castleking said:
"and being in charge of a government agency doesn't make your action less punishable..."

If only.
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#30  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Daredevil-Vigilantism,reckless endangerment,kidnapping,torture,manslaughter

She-Hulk-indecent exposure
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#31  Edited By castleking

now how as a goverment law enforcement go about arresting and enforcing the law?

working with only the general public knowledge and government intel of the characters..

using reasonable equipment and tactics. knowing your yearly budget  will be reviewed...

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#32  Edited By Zoom
Vance Astro said:
"She-Hulk-indecent exposure"

Lol.

I <3 She Hulk.  Comic books are allowed to be fun.
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#33  Edited By castleking

wolverine..  serial murderer, concealed wpn charges. multiple identities.. fraud

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Moon Knight-nuff said

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#35  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator
Zoom said:
"Vance Astro said:
"She-Hulk-indecent exposure"

Lol.

I <3 She Hulk.  Comic books are allowed to be fun."
I remember back in the day..they had this stupid She-Hulk comic where she was naked on the beach and someone took a picture of her.But the picture came out discolored and people couldn't tell it was her.So ridiculous.
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#36  Edited By IcePrince_X

Public Indecency.
Walking around or while fighting,  stretching legs while flying showing intimate muscles in public.


WHITE QUEEN, PSYLOCKE, WONDER WOMAN, BLACK QUEEN, MOONDRAGON
INCREDIBLE HULK, JAMIE BRADDOCK (it must be the braddock genes' to show alot of themselves in public)
 

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#37  Edited By castleking
Giant Man/pym
 
domestic abuse and assault.... terrorism on united states soiled for building ultron for the sole purpose to fight the avengers
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#38  Edited By Caligula

Punisher - easily. he would never be able to defend his actions in a court of law. 
Hank Pym - with the whole damn Ultron buisness, not to metnion spousal abuse. 
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#39  Edited By NagolNuff

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not against him love the tick but would be the easiest 
1he leaps on buildings and causes destruction to the building; also the debris could hit innocent bystander; some of the chunks could kill people.
2idk go to his house i be like hey uve been serve if neting hte tick would get a lot of lawsuits and not really arrest
 
pretty much what happened to hancock /./
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#40  Edited By reactor

Superman - the sheer scale of collateral damage he's caused is incalculable. Metropolis would be in debt up to their heads and beyond, not to mention the occasions he travels out of the city.

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#41  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Moon Knight for cutting faces off

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#42  Edited By castleking
could you or the lawyer judges proof it? or even get him in a court of law?
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Kitty Pryde= harboring an unlicensed exotic animal, illegal alien and fire hazard.