I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Yes, really.
Well, against Sidious he lasts as long as he wants, beceuse he wins. Kratos can be argued Universal + as well, despite what the dum dums here claim in their ignorance.
He's not more broken than Kratos. It would be a good fight though.
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Yes, really.
Well, against Sidious he lasts as long as he wants, beceuse he wins. Kratos can be argued Universal + as well, despite what the dum dums here claim in their ignorance.
He's not more broken than Kratos. It would be a good fight though.
I am interested in result of all fights
Kratos have anti feats of not being able to break through glass and have far more anti feats then anyone here really , not in any way can he argued universal
Steph's immortal , manipulates time easily is a well known mind manipulator and HIS AP is also astronomically higher
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Yes, really.
Well, against Sidious he lasts as long as he wants, beceuse he wins. Kratos can be argued Universal + as well, despite what the dum dums here claim in their ignorance.
He's not more broken than Kratos. It would be a good fight though.
I am interested in result of all fights
Kratos have anti feats of not being able to break through glass and have far more anti feats then anyone here really , not in any way can he argued universal
Steph's immortal , manipulates time easily is a well known mind manipulator and HIS AP is also astronomically higher
That's your argument? Everyone has anti feats. Most often than not it's game mechanic or PIS, similar to Sephiroth loosing to Cloud in Nibelheim. Uranous (universal) < Cronos < Zeus < Kratos.
So, is Kratos. Kratos has been resisting time and mind manipulation since day one. Sephiroth has exactly one attack which might be above solar system level, and that doesn't translate into his raw stats. He gets blitzed.
Btw. it's really not looking good for you when you create threads with obvious winners in mind.
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Yes, really.
Well, against Sidious he lasts as long as he wants, beceuse he wins. Kratos can be argued Universal + as well, despite what the dum dums here claim in their ignorance.
He's not more broken than Kratos. It would be a good fight though.
I am interested in result of all fights
Kratos have anti feats of not being able to break through glass and have far more anti feats then anyone here really , not in any way can he argued universal
Steph's immortal , manipulates time easily is a well known mind manipulator and HIS AP is also astronomically higher
That's your argument? Everyone has anti feats. Most often than not it's game mechanic or PIS, similar to Sephiroth loosing to Cloud in Nibelheim. Uranous (universal) < Cronos < Zeus < Kratos.
So, is Kratos. Kratos has been resisting time and mind manipulation since day one. Sephiroth has exactly one attack which might be above solar system level, and that doesn't translate into his raw stats. He gets blitzed.
Btw. it's really not looking good for you when you create threads with obvious winners in mind.
LOL okay let me debunk this , uranus only created few dimensions, Kratos literally left his " universe " with a boat in the new fallen gods comic , the greek gods who were greater then uranus ruled over a country , everything else is a simple exaggeration
Kratos have a ridicilpuss amount of anti feats , not one , Getting tagged by a arrow , getting grounded by a electricity attack ( something Sephiroth can use ) , being unable to break through ice e.t.c.
Sephiroth can fly and in advent children , he moved faster then Kratos ever did and Sephiroth's attack destroys an entire dimension , not a Solar System .
Btw , read the title , it's not " kratos runs a gauntlet " , its " how much seconds Kratos can last "
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Lore feats would make Kratos infinite multiversal with infinite speed.
but that said actually kratos would take quite a few hours maybe days to die round 1.
I'm no expert regarding TES, but if the order is correct, he stops at Mannimarco (let's face it, that's what you're really interested in, right @aryansingh?)
Not really .
This thread is not If Kratos wins , its how long he lasts , everyone except perhaps Sheev and maybe Vastarie can be argued Universal+
Sephiroth , with his lore feats , is pretty broken
Lore feats would make Kratos infinite multiversal with infinite speed.
Yeah the Mountain Kratos climbed was infinite² and the boat he takes moves at infjnite⁴ LOL
But seriously , a severely lowballed weakened base sephiroth can do this
Lol, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about:
Uranos gave life to the universeGyges claims the right to everything his father (Uranos) created
The Greek World has infinite/immeasurable underworld...
... as well as infinite sky
Here's how GoW multiverse works:
And the whole talk about exaggeration is pretty rich, considering that TES allows for multiple interpretations, not necessarily the one where every one and their mother is universal +.
So does Sephiroth and characters he scales from. Stop cherry picking.
Kratos fought and beat several Primordials, beings capable of movement when the concept of time didn't exist, as well as Cronos, the embodiment of time itself. So no, Sephiroth never moved faster "then Kratos ever did".
Btw. stop making threads about characters you have no clue about.
Lol, you clearly have no clue what you're talking about:
Uranos gave life to the universeGyges claims the right to everything his father (Uranos) created
The Greek World has infinite/immeasurable underworld...
... as well as infinite sky
Here's how GoW multiverse works:
And the whole talk about exaggeration is pretty rich, considering that TES allows for multiple interpretations, not necessarily the one where every one and their mother is universal +.
So does Sephiroth and characters he scales from. Stop cherry picking.
Kratos fought and beat several Primordials, beings capable of movement when the concept of time didn't exist, as well as Cronos, the embodiment of time itself. So no, Sephiroth never moved faster "then Kratos ever did".
Btw. stop making threads about characters you have no clue about.
First of all , atleast tag me when you are trying to reply to me
I know kratos enough
You gave me a lot about Kratos, so now let me begin on Sephiroth
Sephiroth's supernova is powerful enough to completely destroy an alternate/parallel dimension which makes galaxies look small (the red circle is the galaxy before it zoomed in), and has a wide array of other countless planets being shown in the background all throughout the attack. While it may seem like a solar system level feat at face value, it's actually been confirmed as much more, as it's been described that everything was destroyed. This is the raw translation for the attack.
スーパーノヴア
異次元空間をも破壊し 絶望を贈る
Super Nova
Destroy different dimension space and give despair
Also, he no sold this same attack as it was exploding on him. Along with that, Sephiroth has also repeatedly been shown to be the strongest character in all of FF7. The creators have even said before that they couldn't hope to make anyone stronger than him. Which means this would be a rather lackluster feat from him given that there are other summons who can do essentially the exact same thing, such as Bahamut Fury and the Knights of the Round.
Here are the Knights of the Round destroying this same kind of dimension, starts at around 0;47
Also if you want to count Dissidia, he's able to fight on par with people like Exdeath, Kuja, Lightning, Ultimecia, and other gods, all of whom have feats ranging from universal to multiversal and possibly above. In any case this is a pure mismatch since kratos has literally no counters to Sephiroth's hax. Sephiroth's attacks have been described by the Ultimania as able to affect the soul. And he has a vast majority of other spells that are able to mind fuck/petrify/transmute/shrink/slow down or stop time/freeze to absolute zero, and so on.
To add on to that, kratos has no means of permanently downing Sephiroth, since he has been shown to be immortal on more than one occasion. Cloud has outright killed him before, and the Jenova cells were shown to be able to indefinitely rebuild his body and revive him. It's also been said that regardless of how many times you kill him, as long as he remains as a memory, he can always come back, even though that may just pertain to Cloud.
Your fight with MyGod000 have nothing to do with me , I do not give two tiny scrawny little shits about it , the universal+ chicken thing is between you too and keep it between yourself and stop blaming me for it .
Higher dimensional kratos argument ? Oh leave it man , I will go beyond Dimensional for Sephiroth then as he controls the life stream and manipulates it to an extent which is the metaphysical embodiment of death and no other concept apply to him .
Infinite speed Kratos is literally not possible FFS , he took a boat to go to Freya's house and the house was two miles away and Mimir commented on how they would get there faster so Wooden Boat > infinite speed ? LOL
So scaling from Premordeals who moved in " timeless spaces " which would count as a higher dimensional construct , kratos should be higher dimensional and thus infinite speed to three dimensional beings? Seemingly not , he was impaled by a rock Aris threw at him in first game and tagged by normal arrows which both count as part of three dimensional species
None of it exists , kratos is not even 4D or higher
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