Its been awhile since I posted one of my powers battles and this a little personal one I'd like you guys to debate over. Both cool, fundemental forces, extremely powerful, etc.
"Gravity Manipulation in essence is Magnetism Manipulation"
How do you figure that? Their both two completely different forces. "
I think he's saying they're twon things that hold everything together. But on the subject of which is stronger, you must include electromagnetism(magnetism is in the elements iron, zinc, and cobalt I believe.) Electromagnetism essentially encompasses the electricity and magnetism and the electrons, protons, and neutrons(although with a neutral charge) in atoms. Without electromagnetism, gravity wouldnt have anything to hold together(all fundamental forces are needed and work together to keep the universe in order.) But as to which is more powerful: gravity is constantly weakening due to the expanision of large masses in space and the increase in space between the objects. So right now, I'd say electromagnetism.
"magnetism is the stronger force, but doesn't mean it's superior it just has more variety. gravity keeps us on the ground. EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
Kinda off topic but thank goodness for strong nuclear force.
"magnetism is the stronger force, but doesn't mean it's superior it just has more variety. gravity keeps us on the ground. EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
Not exacly. At distances gravity is more powerful.
" However, as two objects get far apart, the gravity between them goes down by a factor of four when you double the distance, but the magnetism goes down by (at least) a factor of eight. On the scale of the solar system, with planets far apart, gravity is much more important than magnetism. "
In essence, neither power trumps the other. A powerful gravity user can beat a magnetism user and vice versa. The only question here is how much control of a force can you get?
@Lance Bastro said:
" EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
" In essence, neither power trumps the other. A powerful gravity user can beat a magnetism user and vice versa. The only question here is how much control of a force can you get?
@Lance Bastro said:
" EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
No it doesn't. The nuclear forces do that. "
nuclear forces keep a nuclui together but not an atom.
On a seperate note: I have a question. Radiation moves at light speed and speed doesnt, correct? So if the sun were to go supernova, it would be the radiation that kills us in the 8 minutes or so it take for to realize the sun has gone supernova?
"magnetism is the stronger force, but doesn't mean it's superior it just has more variety. gravity keeps us on the ground. EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
Not exacly. At distances gravity is more powerful. " However, as two objects get far apart, the gravity between them goes down by a factor of four when you double the distance, but the magnetism goes down by (at least) a factor of eight. On the scale of the solar system, with planets far apart, gravity is much more important than magnetism. " I found this off the net. "
yea, i explained this on the other thread. the gravitation constant of the universe moves the masses in the universe and keeps everything together. that why i said in the other thread. grvity is flurished.
" In essence, neither power trumps the other. A powerful gravity user can beat a magnetism user and vice versa. The only question here is how much control of a force can you get?
@Lance Bastro said:
" EM keeps our body from dispersing into the air. "
No it doesn't. The nuclear forces do that. "
nuclear forces keep a nuclui together but not an atom. "
Really? I always thought it was strong nuclear force that "glued" atoms together. So is it electromagnetism then that "glues" atoms together?
"Really? I always thought it was strong nuclear force that "glued" atoms together. So is it electromagnetism then that "glues" atoms together? "
the strong NF keep a nucleus together. the EM can't do it. however, it is the EM that bonds the whole atom together by bonding the electrons to the nucleus.
"Really? I always thought it was strong nuclear force that "glued" atoms together. So is it electromagnetism then that "glues" atoms together? "
the strong NF keep a nucleus together. the EM can't do it. however, it is the EM that bonds the whole atom together by bonding the electrons to the nucleus. "
So it's a combination of EM and SNF that keeps atoms together?
"So it's a combination of EM and SNF that keeps atoms together? "
pretty much yes, however... keep in mind that you can never touch a nucleus... only the SF can bond it, while the EM field interacts with it while bonding other atoms together..
so remember. when you kiss ur girlfriends lips, you're not touching her lips at all, but her "electrons".. lol
"So it's a combination of EM and SNF that keeps atoms together? "
pretty much yes, however... keep in mind that you can never touch a nucleus... only the SF can bond it, while the EM field interacts with it while bonding other atoms together.. so remember. when you kiss ur girlfriends lips, you're not touching her lips at all, but her "electrons".. lol "
Well I was watching NG(I believe it was National Geographic; cant entirely remember) and it did mention thta if you were to touch your hand, you're not really touching yourself, but a kind of invisible shield of electrons.
"So it's a combination of EM and SNF that keeps atoms together? "
pretty much yes, however... keep in mind that you can never touch a nucleus... only the SF can bond it, while the EM field interacts with it while bonding other atoms together.. so remember. when you kiss ur girlfriends lips, you're not touching her lips at all, but her "electrons".. lol "
Well I was watching NG(I believe it was National Geographic; cant entirely remember) and it did mention thta if you were to touch your hand, you're not really touching yourself, but a kind of invisible shield of electrons. "
yea, that's right. that's also how magneto had a chance to bone rogue with no glove lol.. bc to him... she just a body of energy of electrons. and rogue loves!! magneto bc he is the only one who can touch her without being absorb.
so yea, almost every mass is constructed from the EMF. when we touch things with our hands, we are interacting with other electrons. but that's as far as we get. we can never touch the inner part of an atom no matter how hard we push lol.. it's the EM that protects us from dispersing into energy and it also protects us from "bonding" with other objects.
"So it's a combination of EM and SNF that keeps atoms together? "
pretty much yes, however... keep in mind that you can never touch a nucleus... only the SF can bond it, while the EM field interacts with it while bonding other atoms together.. so remember. when you kiss ur girlfriends lips, you're not touching her lips at all, but her "electrons".. lol "
Well I was watching NG(I believe it was National Geographic; cant entirely remember) and it did mention thta if you were to touch your hand, you're not really touching yourself, but a kind of invisible shield of electrons. "
yea, that's right. that's also how magneto had a chance to bone rogue with no glove lol.. bc to him... she just a body of energy of electrons. and rogue loves!! magneto bc he is the only one who can touch her without being absorb. so yea, almost every mass is constructed from the EMF. when we touch things with our hands, we are interacting with other electrons. but that's as far as we get. we can never touch the inner part of an atom no matter how hard we push lol.. it's the EM that protects us from dispersing into energy and it also protects us from "bonding" with other objects. "
Wow. Thanks for the info. Interesting to know that I've never truly felt anything -__-.So our sense of touch is just the depression of the shield of electrons when we "touch" an object? And amazingly, my opinion on you has changed for the better.
" On a seperate note: I have a question. Radiation moves at light speed and speed doesnt, correct? So if the sun were to go supernova, it would be the radiation that kills us in the 8 minutes or so it take for to realize the sun has gone supernova? "
Short Version: Yeah. Slightly Longer Version: All electromagnetic radiation moves at the same speed whether it be visible light or ultraviolet. Light speed is the universal speed limit (except for theoretical particles that haven't been discovered) so no explosive force could make it to Earth before the radiation burst does. Dissipating atmosphere, boiling seas, dogs and cats living together, etc. This all happens before the fire and brimstone.
" On a seperate note: I have a question. Radiation moves at light speed and speed doesnt, correct? So if the sun were to go supernova, it would be the radiation that kills us in the 8 minutes or so it take for to realize the sun has gone supernova? "
Short Version: Yeah. Slightly Longer Version: All electromagnetic radiation moves at the same speed whether it be visible light or ultraviolet. Light speed is the universal speed limit (except for theoretical particles that haven't been discovered) so no explosive force could make it to Earth before the radiation burst does. Dissipating atmosphere, boiling seas, dogs and cats living together, etc. This all happens before the fire and brimstone."
Ok thanks. What I meant to say was "heat", but I see you understood. So it's the radiation that would kill us correct? And this is question slightly off topic, buthaving to do with electromagnetism technically: Ok, so say I was hypothetically able to move at the speed of light. Now say I ran around someone at light speed for 5 years. And then I was to stop. The light hasnt caught up to me yet, right? And if this is the case, then the person I was previously running around would always see me as 5 years younger than I am, right? This is something my friend brought up, but wasnt able to completely answer it himself.
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