Gojo and Toji vs Yuta and Maki

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Rules:

1. Flashback versions of Gojo and Toji are being used

2. Current Yuta and Maki

3. Perfect teamwork

4. Both team has basic knowledge but no prep

5. Everyone is in character

Which team wins and why?

Current Yuta Solos.

Since this is flashback Gojo, he might not be enough to solo

Toji is just as strong as Maki, except he also has the most insane Special Grade Cursed Tools we've ever seen, Inverted Spear of Heaven is one of the most broken things in the story rn.

Flashback Gojo is still strong enough to be considered the strongest shaman in the world, so it doesn't make much of a difference. If anything you could argue he doesn't solo.

Also in case you forgot, Toji did as good as he did against Gojo because he waited for him to be tired so his CT and reactions are not as effective

Yuta is overhyped, bar the (dumb) statement from Yuji that Yuta could beat 15 Fingers Sukuna (which is easily debunked), he hasn't looked any more impressive than the Disaster Curses so far to be honest.

Decision: Team 1 mid-diff

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Hmm... Maki is implied to be as strong as Toji several times. So they are probably more or less equal but Toji also has a big arsenal and more experience. It won't be easy but Toji will probably take it. (Only thing I'm unsure of is that he was rusty in the flashback IIRC.)

Gojo vs Yuta is pretty unknown to me. If it's Gojo after his resurrection, he is pretty much the same Gojo just younger and hasn't mastered his abilities yet. If it's the Gojo before that then I'm backing Yuta.

Then an exhausted Yuta vs an exhausted Toji happens and... hard to say. Toji likely has more stamina so I guess he takes it?

Team 1

Gojo and Toji stomp

Yuta could probably solo with his domain

you literally don't know what his domain does

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@manimalman: bruh nobody did their domain lmao it canceled out and also the cockroach idiot had them cancel.

Yuta uses his Domain to neg Infinity and beats Gojo up with Rika then jumps Toji with Maki.

@ecoblitz: yeah it doesn't matter what his domain actually is its just a way to get rid of infinity so him, toji and rika can hit him.

@manimalman: except Gojo’s domain is definitely more refined than his so Gojo still stomps with Infinite void…

@ecoblitz: this is young gojo so we really dont know

This is a gojo who just really figured out reverse curse technique

@manimalman: I forgot it’s flashback gojo, yuta has a chance then.

the moment Yuta pulls out Domain to combat Gojo, toji can just rush him and smack his ass with ISoH

also, it does matter what his domain actually is. Just because he gets read of Infinity it doesn't mean he can just beat Gojo lol. Toji is superior in every way to Yuta stat wise and he still struggled with tired Gojo.

also, Gojo by this point already had Purple which is a wild card, he can just take any of them out of the fight if it hits.

Maki is impressive, but she's just a way weaker version of Toji since she doesn't have ISoH. Make this Maki & Gojo vs Yuta & Toji and it's a closer fight

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Team 2

I'll give it to Yuta and Maki.

Current Yuta should have an insane amount of techniques at his disposal (the space-bending technique and the cursed speech being especially good ones). Maki was stated to be comparable to Toji with her powerup.

The way I see them winning would be for Yuta to isolate Gojo using his Rika copycat. This would then allow him and Maki to double-team Toji, and stealing his inverted spear of heaven afterward. Beating Toji in a 2v1 should be easy and quick for the duo.

Afterwards, it will turn into a 3v1 against Gojo: except now they have the spear of heaven.

Now, one can make the argument that the copycat Rika wouldn't last long against Gojo, but it full-on tanked granite blasts and came out fine. If Toji can survive with minimal damage from Gojo's red and blue, then I have no doubt Rika can as well.

Not sure how Yuta nor Maki is going to deal with purple seeing as how its portrayed as almost instant in the manga

Gojo > Yuuta

Toji > Maki

This is unfair.

I would have backed Yuta beating Toji.and even gojo probably 6 months ago. But after seeing Yuuta struggle against Ryu and Hakari barely beating Kashimo even with unlimited cursed energy now I can say confidently that team one wins decisively. Overwhelming cursed energy isn't as invincible as I believed it to be. Cursed technique is more important

Gojo kills Yuuta with void. And Toji is basically a deadlier version of Maki with a better weapon.

Team one stomps.

Team Gojo & Toji

Maki just now reached the level of Toji but he's got more experience, skill and gear so its pretty obviously a case of Toji>>>>>Maki. + From the explanation we got from this recent chapter Tojis sword ignores durability by cutting the soul

Teen Gojo > Toji so he's obviously above maki+ unlike Toji she doesn't have the inverted spear of heaven so she can't get past the infinity

@sixpathsofcapra: This is teen Gojo who doesn’t have DE. Also, how is struggling against Ryu and Kashimo an antifeat? They don’t scale to anybody but Yuta and Hakari.

Also, Yuta solos. Being 2nd only to current Gojo, stronger than Geto and maybe even current Sukuna, he far outranks these 2. The only problem would be Purple, but if he can evade it or kill Gojo before that, it’s a clean win for him (and Maki I guess).

It’s baffling that people use Yuta having trouble against the Sendai 4 when they slap a large chunk of characters and would compete witj people like Jogo or Hanami. On top of Yuta basically holding back against all of them and running through all in quick succession. When he actually went serious he started dominating and forced out their domains.

Anyway Yuta beats Gojo with his domain and more than likely better stats. Maki holds Toji off then Yuta and her jump him and win.

@sixpathsofcapra: Ryu is literally the sorcerer that packs the most punch per cursed energy used, Yuta fought him after rolling a special grade and while fighting another top tier special grade. How is that an anti feat?

Kashimoto is someone who is tryna fight sukuna lol and is specifically gimping himself (no cursed technique cuz it can only be used once) and is still a great sorcerer to where someone hyped to be able to surpass Gojo is struggling with him despite infinite cursed energy.

By struggling against a raw brute like Ryu it shows that he has no hax to counter infinity. Having larger cursed energy means nothing when Hakari barely overpower Kashimo in a battle of power.

You are pretending as if it wasn't a 3 way fight, not 2 v 1. Beating Getou doesn't help much since Teen Gojo >> Getou, as per geto's own statement

@sixpathsofcapra: they were mainly fighting Yuta as he was clearly the most powerful there. Be just finished killing dhruv, another top tier special grade and immediately went straight in battle with 3 more. The sky chick only attacked Ryu when he attacked her or when she saw an opportunity for a 2 for 1 which was like 2/3 times the entire multiple chapter fight. It was mainly a 2v1.

Technically a 1v1, 1v1, 2v1. There’s 0 reason to downplay Yuta.

Who mentioned getou? Bro no one did but you. I was talking about hakari and the fact kashimoto has been rolling top tier earlier age sorcerers (who are said to be>>>modern day sorcerers) all without using a CT. Naw drop the downplay.

Domain Expansion. Done.

Bump

Yuta is stronger than Gojo because he has achieved a Domain Expansion, and is further along the path to understanding the core of Cursed Energy because he has already unlocked Reversed Curse Technique. Gojo is a quicker starter - Yuta seems to start his fights in base and then fully manifest Rika when needed while Gojo starts his fights with Red and Purple when serious.

Toji is more useful to his team than Maki simply because he has the Inverted Spear. The Heavenly Restricted are equal in other respects.

I think the new gen team would ultimately win out due to their in-canon knowledge. Both know what the Inverted Spear can do, and would take measures to avoid it's ability to negate Cursed Techniques. They also know just how dangerous Gojo is - Yuta would likely go straight for the Domain Expansion in order to bypass Infinity. While we don't exactly know what counters Gojo has, if any, to Domains we would have to assume that Yuta would win out in that scenario because he has at least been shown to participate in complex Domain struggles already.

Once Gojo has been disabled, Yuta could potentially have Rika consume his flesh in order to acquire his abilities (maybe stealing the Six Eyes, maybe not) and would be able to provide support to Maki. Cursed Speech could remove Toji's distraction swarm and destroy his weapons cache, he can heal his team with RCT, Rika can provide enhanced firepower and Sky Manipulation/Thin Ice Breaker can bypass any non-ISoH defences Toji puts up.

Bump

The new Gen sorcerers, with Yuta as MVP.

Eh Gojo is faster than all 3 and I don't see either Maki or Yuta surviving a hollow purple, Maki and Yuta's best bet is Yuta instantly opening his domain but given the speed difference, that's easier said than done

Team 1

Team 1 quite easily. Gojo can solo. He was already on a tier of his own. We just saw Maki and Yuta lose against a 10/12 finger level sukuna with no DE.

Team 1 quite easily. Gojo can solo. He was already on a tier of his own. We just saw Maki and Yuta struggle against a 10/12 fingers level sukuna

Gojo and Toji stomp

Where tf did these new people and opinions come from??? Yuta pops a domain expansion and wins.

@ecoblitz: he popped that against a weaker sukuna , had help and still lost. Gojo is on a different tier than him. Maki and Toji are physically superior to Yuta. Sukuna was more impressed by Makis physicals than Yuta. And Gojo stomped a Toji who is a better version of maki with all his weapons.

Gojo oneshots with a purple. There's nothing yuta can do

Toji = Maki. Awakened Gojo is the decisive factor here, and he carries for the victory. This assuming their weapons null curse energy otherwise there's no win con for team 2.

Toji's immune, Gojo's using either FBE or SD to counter.

Yuta's team wins. Maki and Toji cancel each other out, and if Toji comes out with a win due to arsenal, it would be really close. There's really no links to Awakened Gojo besides that he's just over Toji, but as far as we are aware, he has no Domain Expansion/Simple Domain, so Yuta should win with Domain Expansion.