Rules: Fight until one is incapacitated. (This is Jill before she was super soldier)
Environment: An abandoned wear house about 100x100 feet. (start on opposite sides, wear house isn't empty) / Round 2: Graveyard (wide open, start 20 feet apart)
Equipment: Standard for both / Round 2: None, have to rely on h2h.
Morales: On for both / Also give input if morals were off for either scenario.
Ada Wong vs. Jill Valentine
I also think Ada Wong can beat Super Jill faster than Chris and Sheva. Ada is too keen and her moves are too smooth. Think of Jill playing in RE4 and ponder if she can do better. The difference between Resident Evil 4 as opposed to RE1, 2 & 3 is that Jill was fighting mindless zombies. Ada was up against tactical Gorados and prep-time leaders of those Gorados.
" @The Scarlet Witch said:seconded....." @_Courage_: I agree she just gives off that vibe, but Jill is no joke either. So I think it would make for an interesting confrontation. "Oh yes, I agree. "
No even original Jill could kick ada's ass up front, its over. Ada has always just been a sneaky B!tch while Jill is a freaken no joke take down, its over in like three seconds kinda girl I mean have you played her in RE5 and RE1 and RE 3 and Resident evil Chronicles, read the books, Jill has more training, Jill is an original character she has been fighting the zombies since the beginning before ada wong, shes is super bad@ss i mean she was the one left in RE5 and saved chris from wesker while chris got his @ss beat, and chris had to save sheva so many frieaken times, while jill still. in the end saved chris and sheva, she always comes thru in the end super or not she is deffinetly the winner.
@Grand Ninja: It was 7 minutes. and Jill kicks @ss have you seen her moves in re5? And SHE DEFEATED NEMESIS ALL BY HER SELF! Krauser couldnt even do that special aarm or no special arm, so ada has a little gadget sling gun thingy, All ada would do is run awya wehn she gets hurt so she doesnt die, like she did in RE2 and RE4 all skeanky because she cant face it head on.
" read the books, "Do you mean S.D Perry's RE Novels?
I actually have those. lol
Yes, Ada is a sneaky bitch, but Jill is a Jill Sandwitch and Master of Unlocking. Ada is very cunning, but yet very skilled in H2H and weapons. Even more so she is better at marksmanship. In the game plot and in the S.D Perry novels, Jill waiste alot of rounds by not hitting the target at it's weakest points let alone hitting her marks at all. Ada was always one shot here and one shot there. Then again, I can understand you feeling against Ada because she already knew about the whole situation in contrast to Jill's, however, in the 3rd game, Jill had a better composure, but that still doesn't compare to Ada's professionalism. In Rez 3 Jill fought the Nemesis, but she wasn't really physically fighting it. She was using hit, run, hide tactics to evade it most of the time. In Rez 4, Ada had no choice but to fight Krauser 3 times after she though she's killed him the other 2 times and fought Saddler. As Jill was aiding Chris; Ada aids Leon, so Ada is somewhat of a heroine herself.
But alas, since you want to point these inconsistencies against Ada, why not take a look at how many other times Jill had to be saved by either her team or someone completely random. In Rez 1 Jill was saved countless times by Berry and about 2 times by Wesker. Knowing the plot and intensity of the game, you would know that without their help, she would have been dead. In Rez 3 (which happened several hours before the start of Rez 2) Jill was saved by Carlos and even Nicholi several other times. Most of Carlos' team surviving team was killed because they were trying to protect Jill. But at the same time, Ada is inside the city too doing her own ass kicking by her self.
Ada was not bested by the Birkin's lady. Ada pushed Annette down the water shaft during that pistol struggle. And the tranquilizer incident in Rez 4. Like I said from my previous post, Ada was up against tactical Ganados and while she was running from them, the big Chief sniped her down from afar with a sniper rifle. Jill was shot in the face by Chris from a bullet she intended to dodge anyways. Very different from not being aware that you are being sniped. I've already compared the two, Ada is in par with Leon. If Leon and Ada fought against Wesker in "Lost in Nightmares" Wesker would have been thrown out that window by himself.
I'm not down grading Jill, I know she has gotten better during the years, but I also know that Ada was a spy and combat specialist before Jill and her growing experienced shouldn't be ignored as well.
" @Grand Ninja said:Nemesis was awesomely written, but the bad part was the beginning when the writer was going into detail about Carlos manly body (I think -though it was several years i read that), Nicholai was hella wickedly written too. Nothing you'd expect from playing the game, but he made the story very interesting. But from my personal opinion, The Umbrella Conspiracy was the scariest and the one deeply thought out to try to scare you. S.D did a really good job getting into the mind of Wesker too, since Wesker actually did play out the way he did in the future games. (In the 1st Resident Evil, Wesker didn't really have a personality), and she did him a personality which you later see in Code Veronica, RE4 and RE5. And the one thing about these books that wasn't in the game, which I believe S.D. Perry made up, was the man named "Trent"." @kuchiku said:In my opinion, the best book out of these books is Nemesis. The other books didn't seem so well-written. "" read the books, "Do you mean S.D Perry's RE Novels?
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Jill is better at close quarter combat, but I'm not so sure about her expertise on weapons which I think gives Ada the edge here.
I think they are on a similar level. Ada is a spy Jill a soldier. Jill was very good skilled in Resident Evil revelation like Ada was in Resident Evil 4. Assuming we are not talking about evil Jill this is a spite. I have never seen Jill h2h anyway and Ada yes in Resident Evil movie. Anyway it could go either way. 5/10.
@nickzambuto: I am in need of your wisdom.
@spiderman1997: This is a very difficult battle for me to decide, I can actually picture a legitimate stalemate between them. In terms of feats, Jill might have the advantage with firearms, but Ada is more dangerous up close. Ada obviously has a serious stealth advantage since her skills in that area are no joke, but I don't know, Jill definitely has the most common sense out of anyone in the series. This is especially true if you've read the novels. Ada is highly intelligent as well, but I would like to give Jill the benefit of the doubt and say she'll find a way to get by stealth.
I have to call this fight a stalemate, same as Chris vs Leon.
@nickzambuto: Thanks buddy. BTW does this attribute to Super Jill or just normal Jill ?
@nickzambuto: Thanks buddy. BTW does this attribute to Super Jill or just normal Jill ?
Normal Jill. Super Jill, ironically, would probably have worse odds against Ada since she loses self control. She's under Wesker's mind control so she basically just becomes an animal; she fights very well but she would be more vulnerable to stealth in that mindset. Regular Jill would think her way around Ada's stealth, Super Jill would just run around like an animal trying to spot her until she gets sniped.
@caduses: Ada is not fragile. Even harsh, Ada faced monsters and zombies to escape from Raccoon, and in the end still faces a very bruised Tyrant she wins
And in Re4 when Ada is unconscious and the Ganados are going to kill her she wakes up and escapes Ganado's blow with the ax
Jill é fraca, em todas as situações ela teve ajuda dos outros, nunca fez nada sozinha diferente da Ada!
Re 1 - Jill and Chirs
Re 3 - Jill and Carlos
Re lost in nightmares - Jill and Chris
Re 5 - Jill and Chris and Sheva
Re Relevations Jill and Parker
And in Re5 Jill only makes all those scams because of the red spider that controlled her ... she was never good
And another, Jill just escaped from Raccoon with the help of Barry! This failure even to leave a city alone did, unlike the one Ada alone.
Ada stomps. People, if you're going to be such geeks that you only suck off to "canon material," at least do so PROPERLY! Seriously, your excuse is normally "it ain't canon," (which is true, but you only say so when it fits your opinion); here we have all the canon showing us Ada is basically Wonder Woman compared to Jill Valentine, and you still question it. Going by feats and no speculation or fanfiction, Ada kills Jill very quickly. If the writers decided to make a magical rock omnipotent and it is put to fight against anybody at all who isn't on the same level, it doesn't matter how much you like its opponent or how ridiculous the premise of the omnipotent rock is - it stomps easily. It's fiction, not real life, don't try to apply real logic to it - it doesn't work.
@spiderman1997: This is a very difficult battle for me to decide, I can actually picture a legitimate stalemate between them. In terms of feats, Jill might have the advantage with firearms, but Ada is more dangerous up close. Ada obviously has a serious stealth advantage since her skills in that area are no joke, but I don't know, Jill definitely has the most common sense out of anyone in the series. This is especially true if you've read the novels. Ada is highly intelligent as well, but I would like to give Jill the benefit of the doubt and say she'll find a way to get by stealth.
I have to call this fight a stalemate, same as Chris vs Leon.
Ada takes round 1 in both scenarios. She is more lethal from further distances.
Jill should take Round 2 in both scenarios even before Serum PG67AW/RE5. Being a highly trained Assassin, Ada is definitely prepared for any scenario but unlike Jill, she isn't the type for close quarter combat. Jill should have the edge in H2H but it still is going to be tough since Ada is far more acrobatic and quicker than her.
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