The Fate of the Ultimate Universe Revealed [Updated]

I'm kind of bummed, but I'm super excited for these books!

That DnA cover, guys. I want it.

I dont think anything can get me into reading any 'Ultimates' titles. Those two Avengers movies were good though.

THE NEW VILLAIN IS GREEN GOBLIN! I call it!

@yung_ancient_one: We are different in this regard. I'll collect a series I like forever. And I do think that organic change is great. I like a lack of a rotating door and seeing the same villains over and over. I like closure. But this isn't that. It's a slap to the face. Seeing Pete Parker go from a rookie to a guy with some experience is what I want. Seeing Pete die so Miles can be Pete ver2 and start from scratch? It's the same thing from jump for a second time. So if anything killing off a character and bringing back his "clone" is exactly that limit you say you don't want.

And sure, Marvel can kill off a character I've been reading for over ten years. And depending on the hows and whys maybe I will find a new favorite. But the Ultimate U hasn't been like that.

Daredevil Drowned off panel. So did half of the X-Men. Reed turned out to be the Ultimate Universe's Doc Doom, and while the idea is interesting, it still is needless because Doom is a second stringer and the FF don't really exist at this point. Wolverine and Spider-Man both went down like a champ. But We get second rate knockoffs in Jimmy Hudson and Miles Morales.

The point is that if a medium people sink money into treats the fanbase poorly, the fanbase moves on. Sure Marvel may hook some new people with all the bright new number one issues, but alienating a fanbase who wants to buy the product is stupid. Comics are a dying medium as it is. Killing off great characters who I've followed for a decade or more is a great way for Marvel to tell me they don't give a F***. So why should I give them my money? I don't want to read about second rate Spider-Man or knockoff Wolverine. I'll go read Luthor Strode or Invincible instead.

@timelordscience I don't mind a change in the status quo. However I don't like my favorite heroes to die and be replaced a month later by the same character in a new set of tights. I don't like my favorite heroes to die foolish or unheroic deaths. I don't like investing into something then being told I'm an idiot to invest when the story is derailed for no purpose outside of an Event to make more money for greedy businessmen. I actually like death being permanent in the Ult U. like it is in many of the independent comics. The problem happens when you have characters like Daredevil drowning off panel. When you disrespect the characters. And I can make a long list of disrespected characters here. Also a change to the status quo should have a reason to it. If it is to be edgy or make a scene? Screw that. Write a good consistent story and you won't need events to seem relevant.

I love how Miles Morales is front & center on the covers of the comics that feature him. Only he could do that. It is a good day to be a Marvel fan. I never thought I would be this happy for a comic. Miles is shaping up to be the best modern hero, if he isn't already, and it's gratifying to type that the Ultimate Universe is in his hands.

Thank you Marvel for making me happier than I have ever been to read comics.

all of this! I love that UU is so different now...I may not have liked the way Ultimatum was written but it changed the UU so much that it's no longer even close to being able to be confused with the 616 and Cataclysm seems to be doing the same thing....in the UU they can now really experiment with creating new characters and really do things that they could never do in the 616

See, that's the thing... I seen users complain that nothing changes in comics but when change does come... people complain. I fail to understand why it is so hard to let it go. Maybe, I'm just weird, but I personally get tired of collecting the same series.

There are so many characters and so many stories to be told. I want to read all of them. I can't afford every single story of every single issue of every single company. Something has got to give.

I like that stories actually end and can continue some other way. Like in the 1610 Verse, Parker died but Morales carried on the Spider-Man legacy. I love so many different characters. I can't understand why some people just cling on to one.

I'm probably a rare breed because I like that change happens. I am a fan of the idea that something is beautiful because it doesn't last forever. That is why the Greek Gods enjoyed messing with humans because secretly they were jealous that a human's life was precious, it could end, while there's was never ending.

It is like a bittersweet goodbye. You're sad that is it ending (bitter) but you are happy that it started once (sweet).

If you're favorite character dies, one can always find a new one, in my eyes at least.

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this is exactly why the big two are terrified of changing the status quo.

Ugh I was hoping to save money each month since I thought the Ultimate Universe was going to be destroyed. I guess I will I wait for the trades even though I am excited for these 3 new titles!

Seriously, if they keep killing everyone there wont be anyone left to have a UU with...

Yeah Mark Bagley of course, and Sara Pichelli has been fantastic of what I've seen from GOTG.

Is it just me or does the Ultimate FF look more creepy than they do influential? They're all galactused out.

imo Ultimate Spider-man has been really blessed when it comes to fantastic artists working on it

And he's on Ultimate Spider-Man now. That art is fantastic. Might check out this and Ultimates. Haven't read stuff from the UU since before Peter died.

David Marquez

@leokearon:

it could be a clone...dun dun dun!

yeah...I don't understand this attitude...if you don't read it then what do you care what they do with it...if others are enjoying something and that something isn't hurting anyone else then why would you wish for that something to go away?

@captain13: I know it just looks weird the only diffrence I saw was there upper lip is darker and thought we would see an older miles and that's what intrest me

No one is forcing you to read it. And a lot of people enjoy it.

Besides having similar haircuts, they don't look any more alike than Hawkeye and Captain America.

Why does cloak looks like an older Miles

@frozenedge: Ultimates no, but I did finish the new X-men run something that in my opinion didnt get interesting or entertaining until the last 12 issues

Does anybody know who drew that All New Ultimates image against the wall? Not the cover the first image. That art is fantastic.

Any body found it odd that there is no mention of a Ultimate X-Man book?

wish they just did away from ultimates universe

More Miles.

I guess that's always good news.

Sweet

Ultimate FF? Now they have my attention

I hoe they will reboot ultimate x-men. The first 40 issues were awesome.

imo they should have kept Tony Stark's body dead after the last Ultimates arc before Cataclysm....Tony Stark being a technopathic a.i. was awesome

i'm glad the ultimate line is still going strong.

@yung_ancient_one: Of course older fans feel alienated when a company we supported decides to crap on us and kill off our favorite characters. People keep saying comics is a dying medium. I wonder why.

Love that the Ultimate line is continuing, not that I ever had any real doubt that it would. Love that Marvel is doubling down on the "dead is dead" concept, keeping the stakes of the Ultimate universe alive. Love the line-up for All-New Ultimates and Ultimate FF. Love that Bendis and Marquez are sticking with Ultimate Spider-Man. A lot of love all around.

My only reservations are that the picture of the Ultimates is a little too reminiscent of Runaways, because that isn't what that book should be. But it's one picture, the other one has everyone all geared up. Also always hesitant for a more or less unkown writer, but recently that has been an overwhelming success with both Mighty Avengers and Deadpool.

Although it's funny that Tony and Fialkov were just joking about All-New Marvel Now Ultimate Comics Ultimates and so forth, and that does kind of seem to be the branding Marvel is going for. Hey, let marketing do what they want, as long as the books stay stellar.

I'm actually glad they're doing this. Do we seriously need 2 Captain America's, 2 Iron Man's, 2 Thor's, 2 Hulk's.......no. No, we don't.

The 616 comic book line is perfectly capable of doing great stories with these characters. I'm sorry to the people who enjoyed these characters' run but it's honestly time to separate the 616 and the Ultimate world.....completely. I found that the interpretations of the individual characters were still too similar to the 616 counterparts. Slightly different, but similar nonetheless. Why have 2 different Worlds with essentially the same characters? It's redundant.

God I love Marvel. They really do make it new reader friendly but of course hardcore fans that feel proprietary for the franchises they love get angry sometimes.

I'm glad this happened change means something to the Ultimate Universe.

Funny.

IIRC Miles was 13 when he got bit but yeah he does look older.

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Wizard Magazine already Ultimized the DCU.

Pretty awesome, eh? :D

Just google "wizard ultimate justice league" for more pictures and even some comic book pitches.

I am excited for all three!

@gothamred: the team never had a name. they just fought together

all new ultimates!! but kitty needs a codename like for reals. will read the other books as well but really SUPER excited for all new ultimates. wanted them to be a team and wishes come true!
also...give kitty a code name, shadowcat perchance...

Maybe Ultimate FF. Other then that I don't see anything I would like.

Also where the hell is Ultimate Hawkeye (Man I hope they don't kill him off.)

Darn, they should at least have one more book maybe Ultimate Howling Commandos?

Co Signed.

Ultimste DC would be cool maybe Hal Jordan could really use the ring instead of making giant baseball gloves lol

@martianmanhunterisbetterthancy:

@jonny_anonymous: but the point of the ultimate universe is to give us alt takes on their 616 counterparts. Hell the entirety of the Avengers squad just got introduced and is getting killed off already with almost no character development. I want to know about Ultimate Hercules and Ultimate Danny Ketch but instead they're being wiped out

I wish DC had an Ultimate universe of its own.

Didn't they kill Cap like a dozen times already? Can't you pick someone else? Sorry just a Cap fan.

All New Ultimates is like Young Avengers while the log guards of The Ultimates will be the Ultimate FF. Ultimate Cap, Ultimate Thor, Ultimate Hawkeye and Monica Chang may not survive the Cataclysm the way I see it. Will be interesting how Kitty will react to the new Spider Man. And it will be interesting if Ultimate Reed Richards makes it and see his role expanded as a behind the scenes for the Ultimate FF.