Interview: Ron Marz Talks CONVERGENCE: JLI

I love Justice League International. For me J.M DeMatteis and Keith Giffen Justice League International is best choice to write this Convergence JLI issue. Sorry Ron Marz but you should write the Kyle Rayner Convergence

Can't wait

Ahh, good old classic Captain Atom, the one everyone likes, not the weird Doctor Manhattan Captain Atom form the New 52. DC if you can see this, change up Captain Atom in the New 52 to be like his old self. The soldier who ends up being turned into a weapon of mass destruction.

I don't understand how Fire, Ice, and Blue Beetle can be kept benched for as long as DC has kept them benched.

Justice League International has a huge fanbase and the team is diverse so it would fit in with the new diversity comic book mandates.

Sounds awesome! Can't wait to read it!

@teerack: Ice hasn't been benched, she's been in Red Lanterns, and I think she may be in JL 3000

Also if the JLI really had such a big fabase I doubt it would have been canceled as fast as it was. That being said though I'd love for them to come back since Captain tom has been out of commission for so long (although personally I'd prefer he'd get his own series again, but this works too).

@captainmarvel4ever: Talking to Guy on a beach chair in one issue is still benched. >.< I don't care about alternate future versions of anyone. I'm talking about the main 52 continuity stuff.

Justice League International was a huge franchise for decades. The book got canceled back when DC was canceling everything that was under the Batman, Superman, and Green Lantern umbrella in the first year of the new 52 so it doesn't really mean much.

@teerack: She's been in it before that (heck she was on the cover of one issue). Well just because something doesn't take place in the main continuity doesn't mean it can't please the fans of that character(s) or be enjoyable to them. I love Captain Marvel and that issue of Thunderworld was very satisfying to read. I also love Firestorm and I think Futures End had a very interesting story to tell with him.

Yeah, canceling stuff that wasn't selling well, they can't keep a book that isn't selling.

@captainmarvel4ever: Green Arrow was doing awful for so long, so was detective comics for a while, and there were others but im too lazy to check the wiki. They stuck it out for titles in the tbat/super/lantern family and kept trying creators till they got something that was good. Would have been better if they just let books that weren't working like The Dark Knight die and instead tried harder to fix books like Static.

But w/e i dont really care. These are DC's mistakes from like a years ago at this point.

@teerack: Doesn't matter how bad it was, Green Arrow was still selling, it never hit a low enough point. Same with Detective Comics which has always been a very high seller. Also Dark Knight was canceled, and Static was canceled too fast to be fixed.

How is it a mistake to cancel a book that does not sell well? that seems like the logical thing to do (assuming this isn't Bizarro world)

@captainmarvel4ever: If it was really doing well it wouldn't have needed so many changes in creative direction. A few books that were canceled at the time were outselling Swap Thing and they gave that book a chance and it eventually turned into a huge success. Some times you need to give things a chance to be successful.

@teerack: No I said Green Arrow was selling well, the first 3 volumes are awful, it was bad, but it was still selling well enough to maintain itself. That's true, but at the same time you can't keep a book that isn't selling well enough.

JLI + Kingdom Come sounds like a match in Heaven. But it doesn't look like it will be funny this time.

@captainmarvel4ever: There is more to consider then just the one number that we can see. There is how expensive it is to made the different books based on their art, and how smoothly the production of the book is going, plus the different rates you have to pay different creators. An editor and chief's job isn't to just go to comichron.com and cancel what ever books are on the button. With how many creative times were changing on books like Action Comics and stuff at the time it just seemed like there was a lot of issues with early new 52 titles and they used up a lot of resources on saving the series of characters with multiple books. It kinda makes their universe smaller when they do that.

@teerack: No that's not the editor's job, that's marketing's job.

Not really, DC said that the early New 52 was very experimental, seeing what didn't work and what did, so it was natural there would be a lot of books people didn't respond well to.

Also DC has canceled books like the Dark Knight, which was a book that sold well, simply because they felt they had too many Batman books. Besides they haven't stopped experimenting or trying to expand, heck they gave GI Zombie a book. Don't know how much harder they can try then that.

I want to see a Firestorm Convergence. Current and original and the issue 100 Elemental Firestorm from the Orisha storyline. (Along with the Deathstorm that would go on to make Monarch.)

Could not have said it better myself! It's clear they try to make him more like Doctor Manhattan but it just does not work for me. Especially the whole make him evil because he thinks he is like a god. Not the Nathaniel Adams I grew to love. Captain Atom is not a depressed guy. From my understanding, he was always adjusting to his new reality and trying to do what's right. If I could have one wish for post-convergence it's that the old CA look comes back!

@dcvibe: Obviously if I had one Convergence wish it would be to get classic Captain Marvel back, but Captain Atom is a very very close second. Hopefully enough people buy this, and DC will see that people prefer the classic version of him (I also hope they change his look).

Well I'm sure there is there a collaboration between accounting, marketing, and other groups that eventually get presented to the boss to make some kind of decision.

The main point I was too tired to explain last night is that it does make sense to get rid of the lower number books simply looking at sales, but the issue with just saving books like Action Comics and Detective comics just because they were outselling other books like JLI,Static, and Mr. Terrific is that what you end up doing is keeping and reinforcing the small amount of people who were already buying DC comics from before the New 52, and without making books with more diverse characters work you don't bring in new readers like the New 52 was meant to.

That's what I mean by mistake, because now look at DC. Two years later and they need to cancel more then half their titles and relaunch a whole set of new books because they slowly got rid of all their more diverse books for the sake of something they know sells like a Superman or Batman. I love a lot of DC characters and want them to do good, so I'm not trying to make fun of or put DC down it's just the unfortunate situation they put them selves in where they are now three years behind what Image is doing and two years behind what Marvel is doing. In like four or so years it wont matter, but for right now they did hit a bit of a stumble and fell behind with the times.

@teerack: What do you mean by saving them? they were never in danger, they sold well enough to maintain themselves and never dropped to a low enough point to be canceled. Also how do they save books that only have 8-12 issues, generally when a writer wants to start a book they submit a story that's any either 6, 8, or 12 issues worth of story, if it's canceled by that time they can't change it up to fix it.

Also the New 52 brought in plenty of new readers, myself included.

They don't need to, if you actually did proper research and were a knowledgeable reader, you'd know that books like Batman Eternal, World's End, Futures End, Secret Origins, and Arkham Manner were all limited series that have reached their end, some books like JL 3000 and Bataman & Robin are getting re-branded, all the Lantern books that were canceled were selling fine (as all Lantern books do), and DC just wants to retool the Lantern side of their universe. Other then that any book that was canceled is being canceled because of low sales, just like any other book would every 6 months. You should do more then just taking a quick glance at Wikipedia every now and then (especially if you want to be taken seriously) (no offense)

Also how exactly are they behind anyone? especially Image which is a company that sells a completely different type of comic. I'm also very glad they are not doing what Marvel is doing right now, Marvel has been steadily losing my interest with every move they make, I have not liked anything they have been doing as of late, almost none of their comics feel like super hero comics, and the comics that I actually have any interest in have been canceled or are set to be canceled.

@captainmarvel4ever: You seem to be focusing on the irrelevant details and missing my point... but what ever.

@teerack: And you seem to be missing the point that a book that does not sell, can't just stick around because you want it to. I really liked Vibe, I wish that could have stayed, but it didn't sell and that sucks.

That is really really far from what I was getting at to the point where I'm not sure if you're reading my posts or just skimming them. You don't have a point for me to miss. You are just saying over and over that you can't keep a book around if it isn't selling. You seem to think I am arguing that, or that there is even another side to that issue when there actually isn't...

@teerack: Because it's true and you don't seem to get that. You keep saying you wanted them to fix those books, but they can't if they've been canceled.

@captainmarvel4ever: Oy. You are trying really hard to argue something I am not disagreeing with you on, and I've run out of ways to tell you that, so see ya later.