Would Isaiah Bradley agree with Killmonger?

Definitely not. For all his disillusionment and feelings of betrayal, Bradley was still a fairly good person and very much sane. He had the super soldier formula for years but never hurt anybody, he just wanted to be left alone. We also know that he is raising a law abiding and nonracist nephew who can become a superhero so that reflects back on Isaiah's character.

Killmonger was actually insane and wanted to commit a worldwide genocide. He also wasn't against hurting his own people which we saw multiple times. He was truly only out for himself so why would Bradley possibly agree with him?

When everything is said and done so many times, I still have no idea what was Monger's plan exactly...

No, that's crazy. Isaiah is a traumatized man, Killmonger is a psychopath with no conscience or remorse. You cannot put them on the same bracket.

Kill all the white folk.

He didn't really say that did he?

@adamtrmm: Distribute Wakanda's resources to black people not as fortunate as others

@thanos_thebadas:

It's not like "black people" have any kind of centralized representatives in the West, which I guess was a supposed destination of that "package". Hence it's making zero sense. He was sending it "into the ether" in essence. Completely muddled and incoherent end goal. Trying to take over Africa and create a kind of "Black Empire" that could dominate the "exploitative West" would be a much more fitting, sensible and ambitious motivation considering where Wakanda is actually placed. But of course it was never about Africa in the first place lol

Honestly if this was a younger Bradley right after his imprisonment i wouldn't be surprised.

No. Erik was an extremist, and while Isaiah was angry and bitter about what happened to him, I don’t think he would go out his way to hurt anyone.

Both are toxic racists, so yh

They’re worlds apart.

@adamtrmm: His argument was to arm Peoples of Sub-Saharan descent so that they can flip the narrative on what happened to Africa during the slave trade. Not “kill the white folk” but more of a master race scenario.

@killianduclark: Isaiah didn’t come off as racist at all. He didn’t hate any specific race, he hated racism itself and what it did to him.

Anti-nationalist is a better word. American ideals and what he was fighting for became his grudge, even if it were other Black People in charge. Just as he turned away Sam.

@the_hajduk: that’s his grandson

For this though, no. There’s literally no indicator that he would agree with Killmonger’s ideology, to think he would is a misunderstanding of Isaiah’s character

This^

@havenless: he was against Sam being captain america because Sam was black.

And repeatedly echoed "us" vs "them" rhetoric.

Doesn't really matter that he was motivated by past experience. Lots of racist can point to some "origin" point to explain their personal hate.

It's still racist.

Also very ignorant. War machine is an example of a black high ranking US military personnel.

So while Sam might have been the first black captain america he would not be such a huge deal as they try to make it

Of course there's one of those people in this thread

White?

@rbt: @the_magister: Yeah I hate when white people invade my thread.

hmm

@rbt: Maybe Killmonger was right all along...

@killianduclark:

Isaiah wasn’t being racist, he was being bitter and cynical/pessimistic (and yes, there is a difference)

> War machine is an example of a black high ranking US military personnel.

His point wasn’t about there being high ranking black officers in the US Armed Forces, him giving a blatant reference to the Red Tails makes that clear.

> So while Sam might have been the first black captain america he would not be such a huge deal as they try to make it

Yes, yes it would. War Machine and his title isn’t the embodiment of America and its ideals/what it should be like the Captain America title is. You can bet your ass that a black man adopting that title would be a big deal.

lmao

Yeah I don’t remember Isaiah saying anything that was really racist. He also respected Bucky.

@mike_fowler:

https://www.oxfordreference.com/view/10.1093/oi/authority.20111012125231893

"More widely, the devaluation of various traits of character or intelligence as ‘typical’ of particular peoples."

-As defined by oxford.

What about Isaiah's actions and interactions with people like Sam and Bucky doesn't fit the definition provided?

The man is racist. His cynicism and pessimism is merely a by product of his racism/trauma.

Think of racism as being an extreme form of cynicism guided by race.

Next. About iron patriot. The man is draped in battle armor that for the longest time, American government had been salivating over.

Once the government finally got their hands on one, they had no qualms with choosing Rhodes and gladly painted him in the american flag and dispatching him on high profile missions.

The Captain America title was respected but there was no proof it was intrinsically tired to race.

The government could have replaced Steve during 70 years after his cryo fall. But they didn't, because, their propaganda tool had served it's purpose. And what their new wars required more stealth. Example Hank Pym. No interest in replacing captain america. But interest in replicating super soldier serum.

The US government in the mcu only cares if you serve their interest. Not your race.

Yeah. He might not agree with his actions but Wakanda's resources could do a lot for the less unfortunate.

@killianduclark: Nope, Isaiah is not racist and his views are justified.

@deep_silver: already explained why he is. So I don't feel like repeating myself.

Let us just accept what the other thinks is the truth here

Nah, he's too embittered to support anyone as radical as Killmonger.

No.

Agree with what? "Let's use Wakandian Black Opts operatives to kill who ever I tell them to" Most sane people wouldn't .