War Tourny: Lunacyde VS Daddycool (Lord of the Rings VS Aliens)

RULES:
-Both commanders have full knowledge on where the other army's starting location is. 
-All characters have unlimited ammo (unless otherwise stated) and must reload. 
-Assume all franchises know the basics of the characters in the opposing franchises
-Debates will consist of how you will direct your army and how the battles would play out.  
-The entire population (and wildlife) in the United States has vanished.  Cars and such still remain. ALL VEHICLES will NOT function.
-ALL of the weapons in the United States have vanished.  If they stumble into a gunstore, there will be nothing.  If they stumble upon a military base, there will be no weaponry.  Not even knives remain.  Sporks on the other hand, will remain ;) 
-Assume the match begins at 5am. Please take into account travel time to locations. 
-Traveling from one location to another will NOT harm characters endurance and energy. 
-You may split up your teams however you wish to do so.  However, preassigned squads and groups must remain together. 
For example (these are not used) 
Let's say you have: 
10 Superman's 
 
5 X-Men squads, which include... 
1 Gambit 
1 Cyclops 
1 Wolverine

Daddycool's Army

Good luck!  Remember, there's a unique rule for this match to balance it.  Bladed weapons and arrows from the LotR army will penetrate aliens and harm them.  Also, assume bladed  weapons will be not destroyed because of acid. Logically, this wouldn't occur, since it takes awhile to even damage them with a pistol.  But hey, let's keep it balanced ;)

I will post a strategy as soon as Luna posts an army (I might have to change it depending on what units he has)

320 Armored Orcs (from Two Towers, various bladed weapons, 5 have the explosives to be "suicide bomber" Orcs) 
30 Orc Archers 

25 Armored Elves (15 are archers with daggers, 10 have blades)
5 Ents 
3 Legolas' (bow & arrows, elven blade)

3 Aragons (with horse, sword of choice, elven cloak, short fuse explosives) 
7 Gimlis (axe of choice, short fuse explosives)        

" 320 Armored Orcs (from Two Towers, various bladed weapons, 5 have the explosives to be "suicide bomber" Orcs) 
30 Orc Archers 

25 Armored Elves (15 are archers with daggers, 10 have blades)
5 Ents 
3 Legolas' (bow & arrows, elven blade)

3 Aragons (with horse, sword of choice, elven cloak, short fuse explosives) 
7 Gimlis (axe of choice, short fuse explosives)        

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" @k4tzm4n said:

" 320 Armored Orcs (from Two Towers, various bladed weapons, 5 have the explosives to be "suicide bomber" Orcs) 
30 Orc Archers 

25 Armored Elves (15 are archers with daggers, 10 have blades)
5 Ents 
3 Legolas' (bow & arrows, elven blade)

3 Aragons (with horse, sword of choice, elven cloak, short fuse explosives) 
7 Gimlis (axe of choice, short fuse explosives)        

"

Are we talking Orcs or Uruk-Hai because I've never heard of the "suicide bomber" Orcs, but I know there are Uruk _hai that did it which I think you may be referring to. "

I would start this off by splitting my army into three different strike groups. My main attack force (which is represented by the blue line) consists of 3 Queens 8 Predaliens 40 Facehuggers and 150 Warriors. My other two attack squads (represented by the green lines) each have 2 Queens 6 Predaliens 30 Facehuggers and 125 Warriors. I would keep my forces close together so they could easily assist each other if need be. My individual armies would be spread apart enough to effectively stealth as well as scout. They would travel underground in sewer systems whenever possible. Just in case anyone has not seen the Alien movies allow me to give a small break down of some of their abilities.
 

" @Hellos: Yea I agree, but Luna's definitely got some experience on me so we will see what happens. "

Though I guess as long there are some restrictions placed, no queens laying eggs for face huggers, no queen's laying embryo's down peoples throughts(Pred Alien - semi queen- in avp2(film)) and I guess whatever else might be over the top.  
Though I am assuming the face huggers are allowed to impregnate the opposition? 

"All correct.  No hives can be established, however his forces can increase via facehuggers.  Keep in mind though, the enemies have full knowledge of the aliens, as do the aliens of the LoTR army.    "

"@k4tzm4n said:

"All correct.  No hives can be established, however his forces can increase via facehuggers.  Keep in mind though, the enemies have full knowledge of the aliens, as do the aliens of the LoTR army.    "

Are the 3 horses fair game for face huggers? "

forget horses.... must... have... entomorphs...

"forget horses.... must... have... entomorphs... "

So how would the face huggers be part of the army are his forces just toting around their eggs?

"So how would the face huggers be part of the army are his forces just toting around their eggs? "

I can't see the advantage of splitting up my troops. I would keep them all together, however I would order them into smaller more easily directed groups. Each group would be led by one main character. The breakdown would be as follows.
 
I would split up the 3 Legolas's and put each in charge of 5 Elven Archers. These groups would act as scouts given that Elves naturally have amazing senses, especially eyesight effectively allowing them to see miles and miles ahead. They also are naturally attuned to stealth, Legolas treads so lightly he walked on top of the freshly fallen snow in The Fellowship of the Ring. This stealth and their senses will allow them to detect any threats long before they are close enough to harm my army. Additionally their incredible archery skills allow them to engage any enemies long before they are within range to harm them. The incredible speed and accuracy with which they can fire also guarantees that they will take out large swathes of enemies before the enemies can reach them. Legolas fired three death shots into armored Uruk-Hai's throats in 3 seconds while sliding down stairs. He hit a Warg Rider from half a mile away while riding a horse, and also hit a Nazgul riding a giant Fell Beast while in a boat on the Anduin River. Elves are also super-humanly fast, agile, and have endurance beyond even the peak of human perfection. They also had astounding strength, Legolas was able to put his Elven Long Knives right through the armor of Saruman's most elite shock troops, and also helped him to single-handedly fell a Mumakil (Oliphant) at Pelennor Fields. These groups would be exceptionally important since I don't want to get any closer to the Xenos than I have to.
 
Then I would take 2 of the Aragorn's and split the 10 Elves armed with blades among them. Elven blades or swords are long, curved and of amazing craftsmanship. Elven swordsmen are very skilled and Aragorn himself is at the pinnacle of swordsmanship able to easily engage and defeat multiple opponents at once from Orcs, to Uruk-Hai, and even powerful Trolls and Ringwraiths. His sword Anduril (the flame of the west) is the same blade Isildur cut the ring from Sauron's hand with, it is nearly supernaturally sharp and strong. He also is extremely adept with the smaller dagger he carries with him, even throwing it with great accuracy when needed. These are my elite close combat regiments they would be arranged towards the rear of my main troop movement. The Aragorns would of course be riding their horses for mobility and to more easily lead their troops.
 
Next I would evenly divide my main group of Orcs/Uruk-Hai (minus the ones with explosives) among the 7 Gimlis. They would be the main body of my army. Uruk-Hai are stronger, faster, and more durable than humans and have extremely high pain tolerance, although the trade-off is that they are not exceptionally bright creatures. They are extremely ferocious fighters however and formidable foes in close quarters combat. I would have them assemble close together forming a massive block formation. The 30 Uruk-Hai archers would assemble at the back of this formation allowing them to rain down a deadly hail of arrows on their opponents and allowing the other Uruk-Hai to form a barrier from the enemy horde as they pick them off from a distance.
 
Lastly the remaining Aragorn will lead the 5 Ents who will take up thier position at the front of the formation. Their job is to squash as many Xenos as possible and break thier lines causing chaos and disorder and allowing the advancing wall of Uruk-Hai to slaughter them. The Uruks are expendable so the acid won't be a major problem, and Uruks also feel very little pain so that should not be a problem with the acid as well. This front line will feed chaotic hordes of Aliens into my grinder, funneling them into a giant death pit while the archers pick them off from a distance.
 
If the Xenos end up making it out of the giant Uruk deathpit I always have multiple characters with explosives that can lure Xeno's in and then take out as many as possible in a suicide bombing., or with a cleverly placed explosive, most notably Aragorn who has the mobility of being on a horse. The archers will try to identify the Queens and take them out as fast as possible from a distance. If they fail that is the suicide bombers new imperative to take out the Queens and as many warriors as they can while they are at it.

Bravo! I was wondering how LOTR characters would be able to take on Aliens, but so far I'm convinced. Can't wait to see the counter argument.

" Very nice so far.  (love the thought of Ents attempting to face swarms of Xenos) "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Very nice so far.  (love the thought of Ents attempting to face swarms of Xenos) "

I mean eventually the acid is gonna take it's toll, but the ents are gonna take a lot of Xeno's with them and it's gonna throw the Xenos into utter chaos IMO. "

" @k4tzm4n said:

" Very nice so far.  (love the thought of Ents attempting to face swarms of Xenos) "

I mean eventually the acid is gonna take it's toll, but the ents are gonna take a lot of Xeno's with them and it's gonna throw the Xenos into utter chaos IMO. "

Xenos calm under pressure after losing a good tun of fellow Xenos. They essentially sent wave after wave of themselves at the torret guns in Aliens.. :P

" Not convinced with melee combat with Xenos, acid blood spray is going to be killing a lot of things. "

"Not convinced with melee combat with Xenos, acid blood spray is going to be killing a lot of things. "

"I think a bigger factor would actually be just how effective they actually are in close combat (through claws, tail, speed, and teeth).  Attacks with blades and arrows seem less likely to "splatter" alien blood, IMO. "

Thats probably true, maybe not arrows though its whenever projectiles hit them it just goes everywhere, I believe plasma caster included. :P 
Xeno's should hold their own in a melee fight, speed, strength and tail certaintly will help, the the species generoully has always been more of a "We come out at night, sneak around and jump you with superior numbers taking back whoever we can and face hugging them" 

"And that my friend is why my archers are going to be soo important. They are going to take out a majority of the Xenos before they even get close enough to attack. "

" @k4tzm4n:  You can only travel so far through sewers....what are they going to do when they need to cross miles and miles of land with no sort of sewage system? They can only do that kind of thing in major urban centers. "

Xenomorphs are extremely durable ( I know we have rulings that your weapons will be able to pierce the exoskeletons ) they can with stand small arms fire at close range. I think your archers would actually have a tough time killing the Xenos with just arrows. Although I do think you could potentially slow some down in an encounter.   

Bump.

Sorry....forgot about this.

" Sorry....forgot about this. "

 First off regarding your elves stealth ability it actually will not have any effect on my xenos ablity to detect them. Xenos use a sophisticated pheromone that allows them to sense potential hosts from vast distances. There sense is so powerful they can see directly through predators cloaking devices. In Aliens 3 the sense was powerful enough to seek out the few remaining behind in a massive prison colony built for thousands of people.  Xenomorphs are also masters of stealth, marines have walked into rooms actively looking for them and been ambushed by a Xenomorph that had been hiding in plain sight.

 Xenomorphs are extremely durable ( I know we have rulings that your weapons will be able to pierce the exoskeletons ) they can with stand small arms fire at close range. I think your archers would actually have a tough time killing the Xenos with just arrows. Although I do think you could potentially slow some down in an encounter. 

 While your army is used to fighting battles mine is more akin to tactics of guerrilla warfare hit and run attacks from stealth and picking off stragglers. Attacking in this matter would no doubt be more effective than directly engaging your army right off the bat. So, I would take my two smaller forces and lead them around the back of your main army. Once I have my troops in position I will have my Xenos use their pheromones to find any stragglers and abduct them for my facehuggers. Using my Xenos speed and agility they should easily be able to preform quite a few of these kinds of raids with minimal losses. This positioning not only serves as an effective way for me to get the most out picking off stragglers and/or sleeping victims, but also serves as an excellent point for attack as I would be capable of attacking on 3 different fronts. This formation also gives me access to your archers who are vulnerable in melee combat and would keep them from slowing down my troops. 

"Elven bows, Legolas's especially produce an enormous amount of force, moreso than an ordinary bow in real life. Furthermore I believe small arms (9mm -5.56mm rounds) have been shown to penetrate Alien exoskeletons and cause damage. Now I am not saying that a single arrow is going to take them down, but 2-3 well placed arrows very well could take down a Xeno. In the Fellowship of the Ring Legolas shoots and kills a giant fell beast out of the air with a single arrow. Legolas has taken down wargs and trolls among many other things, all creatures whose durability rivals that of a Xeno."
 

Elves do not need rest nor sleep mind you. 

 
 There will not be stragglers. My regiments will be all in strict tight formation. Furthermore Elves have incredibly keen senses including the sight to see horsemen approaching from 5 Leagues (25 miles) away. My elven scouts will detect the danger long before any Xeno's get close enough to harm my forces. Their hearing and sense of smell is far greater than that of humans who are usually the Aliens prey. 

 Lastly my archers are very capable even in a close quarters situation. Many of the Uruk-Hai have great powerful bows that at close range will do serious damage, and seeing that Uruk-hai are generally fearless they will keep their composure up close. The Elves on the other hand are very quick and agile with amazing reflexes and the ability to draw thier bows superhumanly quick they could pick off a charging Xeno quite easily. We see them shooting opponents mere feet away from them in LoTR.  Also Elven archers carry Elven long knives for melee combat if it came down to it.  

...u do know that the queens cant control the predaliens only a predailean queen can control them so they will attack the other xeno's and eventualy die...
now assumeing that doesnt happon its actualy not vary hard for team one to win.
all they have to do is stay neer the now malfunctioning nuclear reactors (because they are no longer being maintananced) and they all die from the readiation that they are vary vulnerable to.

" ...u do know that the queens cant control the predaliens only a predailean queen can control them so they will attack the other xeno's and eventualy die... now assumeing that doesnt happon its actualy not vary hard for team one to win. all they have to do is stay neer the now malfunctioning nuclear reactors (because they are no longer being maintananced) and they all die from the readiation that they are vary vulnerable to. "

"...u do know that the queens cant control the predaliens only a predailean queen can control them so they will attack the other xeno's and eventualy die... now assumeing that doesnt happon its actualy not vary hard for team one to win. all they have to do is stay neer the now malfunctioning nuclear reactors (because they are no longer being maintananced) and they all die from the readiation that they are vary vulnerable to. "

Regardless I am pretty sure K4ts said something about that in the OP and anyways wouldn't both teams be hurt by radiation?