The Disir vs Team of Eleven Warriors

The Disir
vs
Valkyrie, Dani Moonstar in Valkyrie mode, Acroyear, Black Tarantula, Lizard, Silver Samurai, Black Knight, Grendel Prime, Lady Deathstrike, Kit Fisto, Spiral
 
Round 1:
--The Disir are in their current version as Hela's Valkyries, freed from Bor's blood curse and assumedly (we don't have a lot of evidence on this) easier to kill than they were when they were under the curse.  They cannot use any magic spells.  They are armed and armored as usual.
--Val is standard, with Dragonfang.  Dani is in her recent valkyrie mode, with her sword and armor (no horse).  Acroyear (Micronauts) has his energy sword.  Black Tarantula is standard, with all powers.  Lizard is at his best.  Silver Samurai has his armor and katana.  Black Knight has his normal armor and the Ebony Blade.  Grendel Prime has his laser sword.  Lady Deathstrike is at her best.  Kit Fisto has his lightsaber, but cannot use the force at all.  Spiral has six swords, and can teleport, but cannot use any magic.

Round 2:
--The Disir are in their previous version as cannibalistic undead, and are under Bor's curse.  No spell-use.  They must stay in their humanoid forms.  They are armed and armored as usual.
--Same rules for the team as in round 1.
 
Round 3:
--The Disir are under their blood curse, and have transformed into their demonic ghost forms. 
--Same rules for the team as round 1, except that Kit Fisto can use the force in any way he desires, and Spiral can use her magic.
 
Can the team beat the Disir in any round?  Why or why not?
 
EDIT: Battle takes place on the fields of Valhalla, starting 10' apart.  No morals for any character.
 

The Disir:

The Team:

how many are the Desir? cuz even at their weakest point, they are at Valkyries level right? So who on team 2 is above Val? Spiral and Fisto maybe. IDK Acroyear, but the rest are below Val imo.

Round 1 idk yet

Round 2 and 3 imo Desir cuz them is the shit!!!

Disir win every round. The Disir were to much trouble for Thor at a point. If i remember correctly, it was Hela too who had trouble.

how many are the Desir? cuz even at their weakest point, they are at Valkyries level right? So who on team 2 is above Val? Spiral and Fisto maybe. IDK Acroyear, but the rest are below Val imo.

Round 1 idk yet

Round 2 and 3 imo Desir cuz them is the shit!!!

Disir win every round. The Disir were to much trouble for Thor at a point. If i remember correctly, it was Hela too who had trouble.

@Owie said:

@Greendevil said:

how many are the Desir? cuz even at their weakest point, they are at Valkyries level right? So who on team 2 is above Val? Spiral and Fisto maybe. IDK Acroyear, but the rest are below Val imo.

Round 1 idk yet

Round 2 and 3 imo Desir cuz them is the shit!!!

There are currently 11 Disir. So they're matched up one-on-one. Their exact strength isn't really shown, but they could probably be assumed to be around Val's level. Acroyear's strength isn't exactly known but is probably 10-30 tons. You're right that they're almost all weaker than the Disir, but some others are also super strong to some extent: Black Tarantula (25 tons), Dani Moonstar (although I don't think she's shown off her strength, she's been described as being charged with new power when she turns into her valkyrie form, so she's probably around Val), Lizard (14+ tons), Grendel Prime (maybe 10 tons). Generally speaking I see this as a sword fight, not something won by strength.

Plus some of the team's skill levels may be higher (arguably Valkyrie, Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Fisto, Leady Deathstrike), and some have healing factors (Tarantula, Lizard, and Deathstrike). Plus, several have magic/powered weapons that could hurt them:Val with Dragonfang, Dani's sword is magic, Acroyear's sword is an energy sword, Silver Samurai's sword can cut anything, so can Black Knight's and it also banishes magic, Grendel Prime has a laser sword, Kit Fisto has a light saber. Plus Black Tarantula has eye beams.

Which is not to say the team will win. The Disir are hard core. I just think the team would take out at least some of them, at least in round 1, and probably some in round 2.

@jeanroygrant said:

Disir win every round. The Disir were to much trouble for Thor at a point. If i remember correctly, it was Hela too who had trouble.

True, although those were situations where it was a group against one. And arguably they are less powerful now. And in some ways, the team has weapons that are better suited to chopping them up. Not putting down Mjolnir, it's just not a chopping weapon, and I don't think they could defend against a lightsaber, for instance.

I guess

@Owie said:

@Greendevil said:

how many are the Desir? cuz even at their weakest point, they are at Valkyries level right? So who on team 2 is above Val? Spiral and Fisto maybe. IDK Acroyear, but the rest are below Val imo.

Round 1 idk yet

Round 2 and 3 imo Desir cuz them is the shit!!!

There are currently 11 Disir. So they're matched up one-on-one. Their exact strength isn't really shown, but they could probably be assumed to be around Val's level. Acroyear's strength isn't exactly known but is probably 10-30 tons. You're right that they're almost all weaker than the Disir, but some others are also super strong to some extent: Black Tarantula (25 tons), Dani Moonstar (although I don't think she's shown off her strength, she's been described as being charged with new power when she turns into her valkyrie form, so she's probably around Val), Lizard (14+ tons), Grendel Prime (maybe 10 tons). Generally speaking I see this as a sword fight, not something won by strength.

Plus some of the team's skill levels may be higher (arguably Valkyrie, Black Knight, Silver Samurai, Fisto, Leady Deathstrike), and some have healing factors (Tarantula, Lizard, and Deathstrike). Plus, several have magic/powered weapons that could hurt them:Val with Dragonfang, Dani's sword is magic, Acroyear's sword is an energy sword, Silver Samurai's sword can cut anything, so can Black Knight's and it also banishes magic, Grendel Prime has a laser sword, Kit Fisto has a light saber. Plus Black Tarantula has eye beams.

Which is not to say the team will win. The Disir are hard core. I just think the team would take out at least some of them, at least in round 1, and probably some in round 2.

@jeanroygrant said:

Disir win every round. The Disir were to much trouble for Thor at a point. If i remember correctly, it was Hela too who had trouble.

True, although those were situations where it was a group against one. And arguably they are less powerful now. And in some ways, the team has weapons that are better suited to chopping them up. Not putting down Mjolnir, it's just not a chopping weapon, and I don't think they could defend against a lightsaber, for instance.

I agree, this will be sword fight in round 1 and not strength.

the Disir are a team, and has been for X amount of years. They have fighting skills older than Odin, deff older than Thor. They all have Asgardian weapons. And its 11 of them. I think they have round 1 as well,

Didn't Loki wipe out a bunch of these Disir?

@Greendevil: Strength matters in a sword fight. you might not be strong enough to block a sword slash from someone much stronger than you. You also might not be strong enough to turn parry a lunge. The could also lock blades with you and throw you into something. If you are limited to physically dodging the opposing blade rather than parrying it, and your opponent is not, you are severely at a disadvantage.

Disir all rounds.

Didn't Loki wipe out a bunch of these Disir?

I agree, this will be sword fight in round 1 and not strength.

the Disir are a team, and has been for X amount of years. They have fighting skills older than Odin, deff older than Thor. They all have Asgardian weapons. And its 11 of them. I think they have round 1 as well,

Brunhilde is the top Valkyrie as she is a 45 tonner, strongest Valkyrie, and the best female swordsman in Asgard, with Sif being very close 2nd. The Valkyrie are elite and an average Asgardian female is a 250 tonner, so the Disir all should be 30 tonner or above and among their elite warriors. I would expect Dani to be well below Brunhilde (30 tonner?). I think the heroes get killed as most of team is much weaker, much less experienced, less armored, and generally less athletic (quickness/agility/stamina) than the Disir.

Black Knight and Silver Samurai should go down very quickly. Lady Deathstrike and Lizard (bad matchup against swords and spears for him) should not last much longer. Brunhilde is the only one that I think outclasses her opponent and she would be quickly outnumbered.

Brunhilde is the top Valkyrie as she is a 45 tonner, strongest Valkyrie, and the best female swordsman in Asgard, with Sif being very close 2nd. The Valkyrie are elite and an average Asgardian female is a 250 tonner, so the Disir all should be 30 tonner or above and among their elite warriors. I would expect Dani to be well below Brunhilde (30 tonner?). I think the heroes get killed as most of team is much weaker, much less experienced, less armored, and generally less athletic (quickness/agility/stamina) than the Disir.

Black Knight and Silver Samurai should go down very quickly. Lady Deathstrike and Lizard (bad matchup against swords and spears for him) should not last much longer. Brunhilde is the only one that I think outclasses her opponent and she would be quickly outnumbered.

I don't know about the Disir's sword getting cut up. Their swords would be crafted in Asgard and would be elite among that. The Swordsman crossed blades with the Black Knight and his sword (made by Mandarin) did not get cut in half and I doubt it would be better in metallurgy and should have been somewhat weakened by all its extras. Dani's weapon, which I would think would be equivalent to the Disir weapons though Hela might have given her a power up above a normal Valkyrie to compete, went up against Ares, whose weapons are adamantine, equivalent of adamantium, and it did not get cut. I only saw a few scans of the Loki against the Disir fight, but I imagine he used his magic Fire Sword, and I don't remember seeing their swords get broken.

I don't know about the Disir's sword getting cut up. Their swords would be crafted in Asgard and would be elite among that. The Swordsman crossed blades with the Black Knight and his sword (made by Mandarin) did not get cut in half and I doubt it would be better in metallurgy and should have been somewhat weakened by all its extras. Dani's weapon, which I would think would be equivalent to the Disir weapons though Hela might have given her a power up above a normal Valkyrie to compete, went up against Ares, whose weapons are adamantine, equivalent of adamantium, and it did not get cut. I only saw a few scans of the Loki against the Disir fight, but I imagine he used his magic Fire Sword, and I don't remember seeing their swords get broken.

So it can cut through Mjolnir/Destroyer armor/adamantium/Dragon Fang? I always take it with a grain of salt.

So it can cut through Mjolnir/Destroyer armor/adamantium/Dragon Fang? I always take it with a grain of salt.

OK, here's another way to put it. Who would win these match-ups, using the Round 2, cannibal undead versions of the Disir:

Note my knowledge on Disir is limited.

Brun the Disir vs Valkyrie - Valk should take this as I feel she is more skilled

Kara the Disir (has a bow) vs Black Tarantula - kara should take this she seems to be more durable and I feel she is fast enough to avoid eye beams and potentially take the fight to him or just shoot him w/ bow.

Hlokk the Disir vs Dani Moonstar - Dani has a chance at this b/c its hlokk and she is foolish. but I still give her the majority.

Grondul the Disir vs Kit Fisto - Force + lightsabre may prove to be to much ... giving kit slight majority.

Other Unnamed Disir vs Lizard - unsure ... want to go with Disir but healing factor could prove to give lizard the win, but going to disir.

Other Unnamed Disir vs Silver Samurai - He can cut through anything ... nuff said

Other Unnamed Disir vs Grendel Prime - bonafied badass

Other Unnamed Disir vs Lady Deathstrike - not skilled enough

Other Unnamed Disir vs Spiral - skilled enough with teleportation dances and has a high level of skill close enough to win majority

Other Unnamed Disir vs Acroyear - unsure ... if his blade can cut through her blade moonstar wins ... if not hlokk wins. Assuming not cutting through Asgard gear disir.

Other Unnamed Disir vs Black Knight - disir should take this.