Captain America vs Gambit

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#1  Edited By Sufferthorn

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Inspired by the recent AvX: Versus, where (as some of you know) Captain America defeated Gambit

the question here is....were the writers correct in saying that Captain America defeated Gambit the way he did?

It's up for debate

Rules

You may not use scans from the AvX versus as proof...since we're arguing whether the writers were correct.

You may use ANY evidence prior to that fight.

Round 1:

Gambit is Bloodlusted

Morals on for Captain America

1 hour prep for Cap

Location: Emptied X-mansion

Round 2:

Captain America is bloodlusted

Morals on for Gambit

1 Hour prep for Gambit

Location: Forest

Round 3:

Same situation as in AvX: Versus(Reminder, any evidence from that comic is not allowed)

Same Morals

Location

and Random Encounter

Let it begin

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#2  Edited By CODYSF

Storm wins lol JK but I think Cap haves so much experience to beat Gambit.

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#3  Edited By The_Soverighn

cap

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#4  Edited By Joewell911

gambit all the way

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#5  Edited By nefarious

Captain America wins all 3 rounds. He has beaten Gambit before.

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#6  Edited By revengeofchucky

Captain America would win.

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#7  Edited By MarvelGrey
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Gambit on all 3 rounds.

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#8  Edited By acer51

@MarvelGrey said:

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Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

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#9  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

No Caption Provided

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers work on organic matter.

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#10  Edited By Erik

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

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#11  Edited By HellionVulcan

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

besides in avengers vs the x-men where Gambit charged his suit & cap went boom but survived with no cuts or anything which the whole thing was pis but bloodlusted gambit should beat cap .

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#12  Edited By acer51

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

Then why did didn't his powers work organic matter during AvX, which is VERY recent.

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#13  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@acer51 said:

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

Then why did didn't his powers work organic matter during AvX, which is VERY recent.

Cause McNiven is a Cap fanboy and probably didn't do his research.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/god_spawn/avx-misconception-can-gambit-charge-organic-matter/87-80752/

Also, consistency is on Gambit's side.

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#14  Edited By Sufferthorn

@Erik:

@acer51:

*Appears in referee uniform*

While it is stated in AvX Versus that Erik is incorrect in saying it works on Organic matter...we cannot use AvX as evidence according to my original post.

Acer51 may have to prove it by other means.

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#15  Edited By acer51

@HellionVulcan said:

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

besides in avengers vs the x-men where Gambit charged his suit & cap went boom but survived with no cuts or anything which the whole thing was pis but bloodlusted gambit should beat cap .

Gambit didn't use his powers on organic matter in that instance.

Captain america told Gambit his powers wouldn't work on his suit.

So instead Gambit blew up the fish scales lining his suit which were made of metal.

I have the scans, it is specifically mentioned in that issue his powers don't work on organic matter.

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#16  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@acer51 said:

@HellionVulcan said:

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

besides in avengers vs the x-men where Gambit charged his suit & cap went boom but survived with no cuts or anything which the whole thing was pis but bloodlusted gambit should beat cap .

Gambit didn't use his powers on organic matter in that instance.

Captain america told Gambit his powers wouldn't work on his suit.

So instead Gambit blew up the fish scales lining his suit which were made of metal.

I have the scans, it is specifically mentioned in that issue his powers don't work on organic matter.

Did you not follow the link GS provided?

@god_spawn said:

@acer51 said:

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

Then why did didn't his powers work organic matter during AvX, which is VERY recent.

Cause McNiven is a Cap fanboy and probably didn't do his research.

http://www.comicvine.com/myvine/god_spawn/avx-misconception-can-gambit-charge-organic-matter/87-80752/

Also, consistency is on Gambit's side.

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#17  Edited By SavageDragon

Cap for sure and I'm a huge Gambit fan. Just look at Caps feats.

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#18  Edited By Erik

@acer51 said:

@Erik said:

@acer51 said:

@MarvelGrey said:

Gambit on all 3 rounds.

Did he use his powers on Dakens flesh?

Because if so I'm calling WIS, because Gambits powers don't work on organic matter.

His powers have been upgraded to work on organic matter for some time now.

Then why did didn't his powers work organic matter during AvX, which is VERY recent.

Because a writer (and by extension, Captain America) did not know about Gambit's upgrade... even though it has been this way for at least 2 years. Plus why would Gambit want to kill a friend of a friend, who he knows is a good man?

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#19  Edited By Sufferthorn

@acer51:

HEY! NO EVIDENCE FROM AVX IS ALOWED

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#20  Edited By Sufferthorn

@Erik:

We could assume only Cap didn't know, despite the WIS.

BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC.

Stop using AvX as your arguements. >_<

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#21  Edited By Erik

@Sufferthorn said:

@Erik:

We could assume only Cap didn't know, despite the WIS.

BUT THAT IS COMPLETELY OFF-TOPIC.

Stop using AvX as your arguements. >_<

I am pretty sure only one person is trying to use AvX feats. Most that are talking about it are just trying to correct his information since obviously writer/editor error has led him astray.

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#22  Edited By Sufferthorn

@Erik:

Fair enuff

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#23  Edited By Saren

Cap already won. Yes, I am using AvX as an argument. Because I do not see the fight going any differently irrespective of what material it appeared in.

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#24  Edited By Sufferthorn

@CitizenBane:

Well stop going against my OP, and prove it, using only evidence from BEFORE that comic.

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#25  Edited By TDK_1997

Cap.

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#26  Edited By ShootingNova

@Nefarious said:

Captain America wins all 3 rounds. He has beaten Gambit before.
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#27  Edited By KainScion

@Sufferthorn: get over it. cap beating gambit isnt poor writting. its accurate writting. cap all 3.

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#28  Edited By Sufferthorn

@KainScion:

Hey! I'm the Neutral Party! I'm not in spite! Argue with the arguers.

I'm just the OP.

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#29  Edited By Stronger

@Nefarious said:

Captain America wins all 3 rounds. He has beaten Gambit before.
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#30  Edited By illegal

Gambit wins 2 out of 3

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#31  Edited By ChaosBlazer

@Nefarious said:

Captain America wins all 3 rounds. He has beaten Gambit before.
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#32  Edited By RenaissanceMan

I say Gambit. Regardless of what has happened before. It was a poor showing.

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#33  Edited By Hokageshane

@erik: yes he can kineticly charge organic matter after getting his full powers back. Gambit just isn't a box office hit, so they are not going to have any of the box office hits lose. Gambit is very sly, he's basically an assassin. How captain America even comes close to him much less beating him is more a financial decision than a skills decision.

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