Zatanna Forum

Zatanna is a comic book character that first appeared in Hawkman #4

Zatanna Deserves Respect!!!

Topic started by Silverheart on Jan. 16, 2009. Last post by pixelized 2 months, 3 weeks ago.
Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Im sorry, But Zee has been a victim of Sexism long enough!  Why would she be?  You ask.

Let me put this bluntly:  She is, Technically, more powerful than Superman.  In many arcs of DC, Superman has a weakness towards Magic.  Zee, the strongest spellcaster in DC, (Dr. Fate is second, as he/she has been killed way to many times), would be of the few DC person to have an actual advantage over the Man of Steel, (Yes others have gotten Real close, and Apokolips did kill him, but still).

Now think about it, a Woman is more powerful that Superman.  To many writers, that fact actually demotes him in power, so how do you fix it?  You push her off to the side lines for the majority of her career.

And now, not many know about this wonderful woman, and those that do know her compare her to Dr. Stange, who (being male) is obviously more popular.  And I am sorry, but that is just unfair.

Besides, Zatanna is a wonderful character!  She actually has a real personality!  Ever played justice leaugue heroes?  Zee gets all the good lines, is not uber noble like:  Superman, WW, the Bat, Martian, or Greenie; nor does she act like she is high on something throughout the entire game like Flash.  She shows wit, humour, power, and assertiveness without soundng utterly bland. 

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Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Oh, and something I found on the Web about Zee.

A respect forum from some site I have never hoyd of.

(I removed it for the time, will post a link again soon)


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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@Silverheart
1.Why copy and paste a whole page from KMC when you could post a link to the forums and we could look at the scans ourselves,rather than wasting a page on a thread?
2.What makes you think that people here don't respect Zatanna or know how powerful she is?
3.Superman doesn't have a weakness to magic and he never did.
4.I don't know if Zatanna is more powerful than Dr.Fate.I don't know where you're getting that from.I would like to see some proof.
5.Zatanna will never be as big as Superman.He's an actual superhero..she's not.She's magician.He is DC's posterboy..she was created way afterwards.
6.I think people more compared Zatanna to Scarlet Witch...not Dr.Strange


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Screw Scarlet Witch.  She is not an actual magician, and Zee saves people all the time, making her a hero.  And I was not just saying HERE!  I was saying throughout.  There is a ton of Zee hate.  And look at some more SM bios, you will see a weakness to magic.  And Fate gets all his/her poiwers off of a stupid helmet!  Take away the helm and what does he got?  Nothing.

As to the copy and paste, my bad, I am new.


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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Silverheart said:
"Screw Scarlet Witch.  She is not an actual magician, and Zee saves people all the time, making her a hero.  And I was not just saying HERE!  I was saying throughout.  There is a ton of Zee hate.  And look at some more SM bios, you will see a weakness to magic.  And Fate gets all his/her poiwers off of a stupid helmet!  Take away the helm and what does he got?  Nothing.

As to the copy and paste, my bad, I am new."
Dr.Strange isn't a magician either.He's a Sorcerer.
You misunderstood what I meant.Superman was built to be a superhero.That is what he lives for.Zatanna just happens to save people with her powers.
I don't see any Zatanna hate on comicvine.
Superman doesn't have a weakness to magic.If any bio says he does it's wrong.In fact she helped him lose the vulnerability to magic.He was just as vulnerable to magic as everyone else,no more no less.
What your saying about Dr.Fate doesn't mean much.You can't say he's less powerful than Zatanna because of where he gets his powers from.He's either more powerful than her or he isn't.


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Honestly:  sorcerer, magician, wizard, etc...  They are all the same, and

I must have missed the Zee and SM thingy.  My bad, I cannot see everything, but... on the same point, ever think that the writers did it to take that advantahge away to secure his power.

And when I said throughout, I meant across the web and many other fans I meet in person.

And honestly, power origins play a big part, watching JLU as a kid, I saw Stargirl (whom I have not seen in a while) fighting some random villain.  Her staff was taken from her grasp, and then she was powerless.  Her source played a big part in her defeat.  Put that with a more known character, and there is not much hope for that set of fans.

Oh well.


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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Silverheart said:
"Honestly:  sorcerer, magician, wizard, etc...  They are all the same, and

I must have missed the Zee and SM thingy.  My bad, I cannot see everything, but... on the same point, ever think that the writers did it to take that advantahge away to secure his power.

And when I said throughout, I meant across the web and many other fans I meet in person.

And honestly, power origins play a big part, watching JLU as a kid, I saw Stargirl (whom I have not seen in a while) fighting some random villain.  Her staff was taken from her grasp, and then she was powerless.  Her source played a big part in her defeat.  Put that with a more known character, and there is not much hope for that set of fans.

Oh well.
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No they aren't.Sorcerer is a higher position than magician and so is Wizard.
Yes...that is exactly why the writers did it.I think it's stupid because Superman is overpowered as it is.

Well..we don't do that on comicvine.People may not acknowledge Zatanna but I don't know of anyone here who hates or dislikes her.

No..they don't.You're either more powerful than someone or you're not.It doesn't matter how you get your powers.


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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The source of your powers determines a weakness.  The bigger the weakness, the weaker the character is.  So, for a power object/suit, take that away and leave them powerless is in fact a pretty big weakness.  Just my opinion.


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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Silverheart said:
"The source of your powers determines a weakness.  The bigger the weakness, the weaker the character is.  So, for a power object/suit, take that away and leave them powerless is in fact a pretty big weakness.  Just my opinion."
Power is connected to offensive ability.Weaknesses don't factor in.


Post by Lunacyde (7,551 posts) See mini bio

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I donno....I love Zatanna....I dont know too many people here who have ever said they hated her


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i love Zatanna, but that ridiculous outfit has to go.


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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pixelized said:
"i love Zatanna, but that ridiculous outfit has to go."
She's a magician.What did you expect her to wear?


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something that sets her apart from the wannabes


Post by Swagga Vance (86 posts) See mini bio

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pixelized said:
"something that sets her apart from the wannabes"
I don't know of anyone but her wearing a female magician costume.


Post by pixelized (67,441 posts) See mini bio

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all the other stage performers across the universe

it's gimmicky is what i'm saying. Like if i had powers of water and i walk around in a fireman costume.


Post by G-Man (10,233 posts) See mini bio

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The community here voted Zatanna "Hottest Female" for 2008.  Guess that's a different kind of respect.


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Sweet!


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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pixelized said:
"i love Zatanna, but that ridiculous outfit has to go."

Come on!  The Fishnets rule!


Post by Constantine (11,028 posts) See mini bio

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I've never seen any disrespect for Z


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Silverheart said:
"pixelized said:
"i love Zatanna, but that ridiculous outfit has to go."

Come on!  The Fishnets rule!"
they're more fitting for black canary than Zay


Post by Constantine (11,028 posts) See mini bio

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I'd like to see a new suit


Post by King Saturn (72,920 posts) See mini bio

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I thought Zatanna got respect ?


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Constantine said:
"I've never seen any disrespect for Z"
I am speaking generally.

And Zee is hotter than Canary.


Post by Constantine (11,028 posts) See mini bio

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Silverheart said:
"Constantine said:
"I've never seen any disrespect for Z"
I am speaking generally.
O.o so was I?


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Silverheart said:
And Zee is hotter than Canary."
Maybe but the fishnets suit Dinah more


Post by Silverheart (41 posts) See mini bio

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Only because she mimicked her mother!  They were not her original idea.


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They're part of the Canary Line... Zatanna putting on a pair wasn't original.


Post by AtPhantom (7,033 posts) See mini bio

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I love Zatanna.

She's wonderful, she's hot.

She's not more powerful than doc Fate.


Post by Lunacyde (7,551 posts) See mini bio

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Persopnally I love Zatannas costume...who cares if its gimmicky....its her and it looks good.......better than tons of other femle characters I could name ...


Post by Succubus (441 posts) See mini bio

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Her brother suffers from the same Gimmicky thing.





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