Young Justice - Secrets (Episode discussion, SPOILERS)

#1 Posted by The Lobster (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

So what did you guys think? Every DC superhero show has the "girls night out" story, this is that episode. So what did you guys think?  

Here are my basic thoughts of the episode....
 
- Of course the only person on the group who knows Artemis' identity is Robin. Funny how he's known all along but never really seemed to find it important to bring it up.

- I wasn't a big Zatanna fan before this, but I'm liking her more and more I see her. The problem with all the other shows that had Zatanna, none of them really seemed to give her any sort of character, she was just a magician who talked backwards. This show actually seems to be giving Zatanna an actual character, I can see now she's very mature for her age but still doesn't mind listening to other's problems which makes her kindhearted. I'm liking this character more and more, I hope she becomes a regular.

- For an episode called "secrets", and about Artemis, not a lot of secrets revealed. We get a few hints every now and then, but with the exception of the big one with Harm.... that's about it. Mild complaint.

- Kudos for the creators for going this dark, not a lot of shows can do that on a station that specializes in kids cartoons. Harm killing his sister, even though they slyly sneak around it by not using the words death, kill, or murder... it's still pretty obvious.

I'm really digging this show, it's only on its first season and already it's as good as Justice League Unlimited. Finally a DC show worth watching.
#2 Posted by Primmaster64 (21138 posts) - - Show Bio

HAHA 90's Superboy scostume....Should have been worn by Conner.

#3 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (32993 posts) - - Show Bio

The more I watch it the more it makes me wish Aqua Lad would make an appearance in the DCnU

#4 Edited by BlackArmor (6137 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by noj (1078 posts) - - Show Bio

Really awesome episode! I loved seeing some more of Zatanna and her pairing with Artemis was great. The original Superboy costume appearance was also much appreciated. But probably my favorite part of the episode was the meeting of the, i guess you could say, "inner circle" of Young Justice. They're finally having the meeting that they should have had as soon as Aqualad learned about the mole. One thing that I noticed though is that Aqualad is a bit too trusting and naive. He absolutely refuses the possibility that there could be a mole, especially when there is a very real chance that Superboy could be the mole not acting of his own free will. It may just be me but it kinda looks like Robin noticed Aqualads flaw as well.

#6 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

@noj said:

Really awesome episode! I loved seeing some more of Zatanna and her pairing with Artemis was great. The original Superboy costume appearance was also much appreciated. But probably my favorite part of the episode was the meeting of the, i guess you could say, "inner circle" of Young Justice. They're finally having the meeting that they should have had as soon as Aqualad learned about the mole. One thing that I noticed though is that Aqualad is a bit too trusting and naive. He absolutely refuses the possibility that there could be a mole, especially when there is a very real chance that Superboy could be the mole not acting of his own free will. It may just be me but it kinda looks like Robin noticed Aqualads flaw as well.

#7 Posted by Mr. Dead Pool (2625 posts) - - Show Bio

I only have one question. Is Harm in the comics? I never read Young Justice so is he?

#8 Posted by teamextrodinary15 (2229 posts) - - Show Bio

I really liked this episode, one of my favories. And I thought he did say he killed her at the end?

#9 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9001 posts) - - Show Bio

I thought it was great. I am actually going to do a video review on it later today. So, I will post it here.

#10 Posted by Kairan1979 (16723 posts) - - Show Bio
#11 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

Harm is in the comics, Just an obscure character, or at least one of those one time only characters like Graviton with the Avengers.

#12 Posted by haydenclaireheroes (9001 posts) - - Show Bio
#13 Posted by BlackArmor (6137 posts) - - Show Bio

My only complaint is that at the end the final fight between Artemis and Harm because in the first fight Harm is schooling her like a grand master or something and not even trying but all of a sudden the next time they fight she gets a flawless victory. I understand he was distracted and fighting his inner demons the second time but for his skilll level to drop that far doesn't make any sense and the reason Artemis lost so badly in round one was because she was also fighting her inner demon and she still is in the second fight too. they were both fighting demons in the second fight so even if Artemis still wins the second fight it should have been a much closer fight not a curbstomp

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#14 Posted by RedOwl_1 (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

Good episode (the series don't have one bad... for me)

Was weird for me that Artemis was... jealous? of Megan, I didn't think that she liked Conner, that get me overwhelmed (lil' reference eh )

I knew Secret thanks to Sins of Youth but I didn't knew that she was a ghost, thanks to his brother that killed she

Spooooky :S when I learned that I had ghostbumps

@Primmaster64 said:

HAHA 90's Superboy scostume....Should have been worn by Conner.

Just look his face

"You have to be kidding"
#15 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

@BlackArmor: Good point.

#16 Posted by Inpa (39 posts) - - Show Bio

I liked it. I think Harm is way awesome.

#17 Posted by Inpa (39 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't know Artemis was into superkid like that either. I mean, she made a flirty remark on him in her debut, but nothing really serious. She'll probably end up with Wally anyway, and Robin with Zatanna, unless they want that Barbara cameo to mean something anyway.

#18 Posted by The Lobster (1507 posts) - - Show Bio
@teamextrodinary15 said:
I really liked this episode, one of my favories. And I thought he did say he killed her at the end?
He never actually used the words "killed". He says and I quote...."She was the only thing Harm ever loved, that's why she had to go. Harm's heart had to be pure. Greta had to be cut out, excised like an infection." Which is how this can get by the censors, they never use the actual words "killed" or "murdered". They sneak by it by referring to the killing as an "it." The closest they ever got was when Zatanna says "how did you die?" .....so I guess it's okay to say she died, but they have to sneak by the fact her brother was the one to kill her.
 
The censors work in such a bizarre and funny way.
#19 Posted by CurbsideProphet (1906 posts) - - Show Bio
@Primmaster64 said:
HAHA 90's Superboy scostume....Should have been worn by Conner.
I loved that reference. Unfortunately, I'm the only one in my house who understood it.
#20 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

I loveeeedddd this episode! My second favorite one right now.

#21 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

@Inpa: Yeah Robin with Zatanna, Artemis Wally, Megan-Superboy, & Aqualad might be the Piccolo of the group, The one that never experiences love and is always serious.

#22 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jnr6Lil said:

@Inpa: Yeah Robin with Zatanna, Artemis Wally, Megan-Superboy, & Aqualad might be the Piccolo of the group, The one that never experiences love and is always serious.

Don't forget Roy and Cheshire, the best couple lol :)

#23 Posted by teamextrodinary15 (2229 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Lobster : ok cool

#24 Posted by Inpa (39 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jnr6Lil
Stoic coolguy who's secretly longing. Remember that time he went back to Atlantis and wanted that girl, but she was dating his other best friend?
#25 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jnr6Lil said:

@Inpa: Yeah Robin with Zatanna, Artemis Wally, Megan-Superboy, & Aqualad might be the Piccolo of the group, The one that never experiences love and is always serious.

Don't forget that Rocket might be joining the group later on so there's plenty of match making happening or going to happen anyways!!

#26 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh and did anybody else love the cameos of all the different superpowered costumed teenagers at the dance!!? That overweight Wonder Woman was hilarious!! Oh and Bumblebee's costume looked awesome!!

#27 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

@papad1992: Well he MIGHT be joinining, just pure speculation @xhavoc86: That too

@Inpa said:

@Jnr6Lil: Stoic coolguy who's secretly longing. Remember that time he went back to Atlantis and wanted that girl, but she was dating his other best friend?

Ah yes I remember.

#28 Posted by allhailme (288 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm surprised no one mention the best part- the marvin the martian shoutout.

#29 Posted by papad1992 (6829 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jnr6Lil said:

@papad1992: Well he MIGHT be joinining, just pure speculation

Um... Rocket's a girl!!

#30 Posted by fodigg (6146 posts) - - Show Bio

This ep was okay. Nothing groundbreaking but a good holiday-themed one-and-done and I like that it brought back some YJ-specific characters. The best part was definitely the 90s superboy costume.

#31 Posted by Jnr6Lil (7704 posts) - - Show Bio

@fodigg said:

This ep was okay. Nothing groundbreaking but a good holiday-themed one-and-done and I like that it brought back some YJ-specific characters. The best part was definitely the 90s superboy costume.

Well put

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