Young Justice 207/33 "Depths" Discussion (Spoilers)

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#1 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

And it begins!

I still say her death is just a ploy, it has to be a faked death!

#2 Edited by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

Something isn't as it seems... it can't be. They wouldn't give away her death that early if she really dies later. At least, I wouldn't think so.

If she is dead, then screw it. Just screw it. I'm sick of my favorite characters dying off in almost every show and other form of story I read and watch... it's just depressing.

#3 Edited by mfundo (1622 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow is she dead? I haven't downloaded the episode yet.

#4 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

@mfundo: In the first couple of minutes there's a flash forward to Nightwing giving her CPR and then stating she's dead. Then it flashes back to the story leading up to it. It had better be a ploy to garner suspense. If she's really dead... well, stating how upset I'd be at this point would just be redundant.

#5 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

I absolutely call shenanigans on her death! 100% bs! I dont believe it, she's not dead, it's just a ploy, end of story! lol

...but anyways, Carol Ferris! Hope to see Star Sapphire soon as well...and FINALLY! We're seeing some interaction between Superboy-Lagoon Boy-Miss Martian. It's about time we see some awkwardness going on with their strange relationship situation!

#6 Posted by mfundo (1622 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: Wow sounds epic. Here's to hoping she isn't dead.

#7 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

It's official, Superboy and Megan broke up because Superboy found out she used her psychic powers to alter his thoughts about her "abuse" of telepathic abilities.

#8 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

I am still waiting to see episode 31 but time Warner will not put it on on demand yet for some unknown reason. I there another place where this show could be viewed?

#9 Posted by WZA (32 posts) - - Show Bio

There is soooo much foreshadowing in this episode... lol

#10 Posted by Underachiever007 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz said:

I am still waiting to see episode 31 but time Warner will not put it on on demand yet for some unknown reason. I there another place where this show could be viewed?

Youtube.

#11 Posted by mfundo (1622 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero: When did she do that? I can't remember.

#12 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@WZA said:

There is soooo much foreshadowing in this episode... lol

yeah the part with Artemis ducking out and Nightwing yanking her back was funny (but I still say its because she's doing it on purpose)

#13 Posted by ThexX (1559 posts) - - Show Bio

@Kallarkz: If you have Xbox live you can go onto Zune and by the episodes of the series using Microsoft points (Xbox Live points)

#14 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@mfundo: they were fighting just now on this episode and that was the reason giving by them for the breakup. (it probably happened during the gap)

#15 Posted by mfundo (1622 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero: Seriously, there is so much dra-ma in this show.

#16 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@mfundo: this episode is awesome! it's having me on the edge of my seat!

#17 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

that's it, I'm done. stupid death for no point except to make kaldur more of a bad guy. I'd be more vocal with my distaste, but most of my words aren't' allowed. THERE WAS NO POINT TO KILL HER. #$(*&# THIS.

and I'm done.

#18 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

....I take back everything I just said. holy shit

#19 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: she's not dead for real! the scene with Kaldur and Black Manta COMPLETELY gave it away, Black Manta was testing Kaldur the whole time and he "passed", so its definitely a fake death.

AND I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA FAKE FAKE FAKE

#20 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero said:

@Ravager4: she's not dead for real! the scene with Kaldur and Black Manta COMPLETELY gave it away, Black Manta was testing Kaldur the whole time and he "passed", so its definitely a fake death.

AND I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA FAKE FAKE FAKE

@Ravager4 said:

....I take back everything I just said. holy shit

Yeah, I gladly eat my own words

#21 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

Artemis fakes her death, Kaldur is a mole, CALLED IT! TOTALLY CALLED IT!

called it called it called it called it called it! YEAHHHH lmao

#22 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: but aren't you glad they didn't drag out these storylines over the break? they could've made us wait over the hiatus to find out the true status of Artemis and Aqualad and that would've painful, but they didnt thank goodness lol

#23 Posted by ThexX (1559 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero: Glad you where right. I wonder what Wally will do. He knows Artemis isn't dead but that look he gives at the end when he is talking to Nightwing.

#24 Posted by WZA (32 posts) - - Show Bio

Hahaa this show keeps getting better and better :D It was getting kinda obvious it was a ruse because like i said there was toooooo much foreshadowing lol. Anyways isnt this the last episode or is it the next? before the summer hiatus? suck if it is Dx

#25 Posted by Underachiever007 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero said:

@Ravager4: she's not dead for real! the scene with Kaldur and Black Manta COMPLETELY gave it away, Black Manta was testing Kaldur the whole time and he "passed", so its definitely a fake death.

AND I TOLD YOU!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHA FAKE FAKE FAKE

Do we get to see Wally's reaction to her death? Is he in on it? Any indication to that?

#26 Edited by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@ThexX: I think Wally is upset because now Artemis has to stay out of sight and away from Wally. If there's a new girl staying around Wally after his girlfriend's death, the bad guys will probably be suspicious. So she has to lie low and away from Wally, they have to spend time apart.

@WZA: It's the last episode, we got to wait after the break now, but I'm not so mad since they wrapped up the few questions we had left... the only thing now is, Lagoon Boy's fate, but under Aqualad's protection he'll be fine...he actually might be part of the plan too...

@Underachiever007: Yes, he knew. The only people who knows are Aqualad, Nightwing, Artemis, and Wally. They all know that Aqualad is a mole and that Artemis faked her death. Although Zatanna might know because she provided an amulet that prevents people from seeing Artemis, she will look normal to only those three people but to the rest of the world she'll appear different.

#27 Posted by Underachiever007 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero: Even though people managed to predict that twist, it sure beats the Hell out of turning the most straight-edged person in the group evil and killing Artemis for no reason. I approve.

#28 Posted by krspaceT (1463 posts) - - Show Bio

....What an episode to use as a cliffhanger

#29 Posted by The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: Lol. Yeah, It's okay. I actually had the same reaction when I saw it. & then like 3 minutes later I was okay. This show is really messing with my emotions.

#30 Posted by Twentyfive (2843 posts) - - Show Bio

This episode was awesome. Fishqo knows too well how to be a bad guy. He's still my favorite character no matter which side he's on. I actually wish he killed Artemis, even though she's my second favorite. I'm glad that we finally have an episode with this much shock value. First in a long, long time. As usual, my least favorite parts were of the Superboy/Martian relationship crud, and this episode took it's time for anything to happen, but once it did, it got real.

#31 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Underachiever007: Actually Zatanna doesn't know, Nightwing said he only borrowed it from her because of their past connection so she doesnt know. I'm surprised Miss Martian and Superboy don't know, she's a telepath, couldn't she tell? but yes. this episode gets two thumbs up from me, probably the best episode of this season so far.

#32 Posted by The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere (33 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, did anyone besides me think the Artemis' new identity looked a little like an animated version of Linda Park (The comic-book version that's married to Wally, not the real-world actress of the same name)? Just saying... if that was the creator's intention... that'd be pretty clever.

#33 Posted by Dernman (14774 posts) - - Show Bio

I both liked and was disappointed in today's Young Justice. Artemis should have died and Kaldur should have really been a bad guy. :(

It was predictable.

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#34 Posted by ckenn99 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere: Now that you mention it the two do look almost exactly alike...

#35 Edited by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

To recap the important points:

1. Roy Harper is under Green Arrow and Red Arrow guard in Star City (although this part was only mentioned and not seen, and thinking about it, he will probably be given Artemis bow since she wont be using it and based on the promo picture)

2. Bart is staying with Jay and Joan. (again only mentioned and not seen)

3. Superboy broke up with Miss Martian because she alter his thoughts on her actions towards enemies and he found out. He tells her she's no different than Psimon.

4. Lagoon Boy is taken hostage.

5. Aqualad, Nightwing, Wally and Artemis are all in cahoots. Aqualad is a mole and Artemis faked her death to solidify his position to Black Manta.

I guess the only disappointment here is that Arrowette isn't joining after all, but i thought it was a good way to end for the break. they wrapped up a lot of loose ends, but left it open for enough for us to want more.

#36 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere said:

Also, did anyone besides me think the Artemis' new identity looked a little like an animated version of Linda Park (The comic-book version that's married to Wally, not the real-world actress of the same name)? Just saying... if that was the creator's intention... that'd be pretty clever.

@ckenn99 said:

@The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere: Now that you mention it the two do look almost exactly alike...

Wouldn't it be crazy if she takes on the alias Linda Park from now on and marries Wally West? It's like she'll be Young Justice universe version of Linda Park lol

#37 Posted by CrimsonAvenger (1162 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero:

Bart is staying with Jay Garrick and his wife not Barry Allen.

#38 Posted by Kallarkz (3303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Underachiever007 said:

@Kallarkz said:

I am still waiting to see episode 31 but time Warner will not put it on on demand yet for some unknown reason. I there another place where this show could be viewed?

Youtube.

thanks a ton! just saw episodes 31 and 32.

#39 Posted by King001 (17 posts) - - Show Bio

It wasn't as predictable. It could have gone either way. I'm glad it went they way it did. This episode was awesome! But it wouldn't have been what it was without the build up of the others. Like ive said before this show is well done. Every episode is an important piece to the bigger picture. People don't make shows like this anymore that's way it might seem odd to some of the impatient people out there. Overall great show, great series. I'm glad I was on since day 1.

#40 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@CrimsonAvenger said:

@Bestostero:

Bart is staying with Jay Garrick and his wife not Barry Allen.

Noted! thanks

#41 Posted by ckenn99 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@Bestostero said:

@The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere said:

Also, did anyone besides me think the Artemis' new identity looked a little like an animated version of Linda Park (The comic-book version that's married to Wally, not the real-world actress of the same name)? Just saying... if that was the creator's intention... that'd be pretty clever.

@ckenn99 said:

@The_Eurythmic_King_of_Nowhere: Now that you mention it the two do look almost exactly alike...

Wouldn't it be crazy if she takes on the alias Linda Park from now on and marries Wally West? It's like she'll be Young Justice universe version of Linda Park lol

I'm extremely giddy with joy! Now they need a future episode with the twins :P

#42 Posted by WZA (32 posts) - - Show Bio

I hope Wally joins the team again. Since Artemis supposedly "died" wouldn't Wally want "revenge"? lol. Wishful thinking :D

#43 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm actually interested to see how Cheshire reacts to this, too. It looked like she was starting to settle down with Clone Roy after they found the real Roy, so they could raise their daughter. But when she finds out that her sister got 'killed' on a mission after being called up basically out of retirement for a mission, I wonder if she'll try to take revenge or something.

#44 Posted by Underachiever007 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4 said:

I'm actually interested to see how Cheshire reacts to this, too. It looked like she was starting to settle down with Clone Roy after they found the real Roy, so they could raise their daughter. But when she finds out that her sister got 'killed' on a mission after being called up basically out of retirement for a mission, I wonder if she'll try to take revenge or something.

Revenge on Aqualad or the team?

#45 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

@Underachiever007 said:

@Ravager4 said:

I'm actually interested to see how Cheshire reacts to this, too. It looked like she was starting to settle down with Clone Roy after they found the real Roy, so they could raise their daughter. But when she finds out that her sister got 'killed' on a mission after being called up basically out of retirement for a mission, I wonder if she'll try to take revenge or something.

Revenge on Aqualad or the team?

Oh interesting, that can put a huge wrench in their plan! Cheshire definitely has a soft spot for Artemis, she saved her before when Superboy caused the avalanche that almost did her in.

#46 Posted by ckenn99 (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@Underachiever007 said:

@Ravager4 said:

I'm actually interested to see how Cheshire reacts to this, too. It looked like she was starting to settle down with Clone Roy after they found the real Roy, so they could raise their daughter. But when she finds out that her sister got 'killed' on a mission after being called up basically out of retirement for a mission, I wonder if she'll try to take revenge or something.

Revenge on Aqualad or the team?

My guess: both.

#47 Posted by Ravager4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

@Underachiever007: could go either way. my first inclination would be the team for putting Artemis in that position. or you could go with the switch and have her initially go after the team, but then be talked down into helping them against kaldur or something. It could work both ways.

#48 Edited by Underachiever007 (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@Ravager4: This could actually be a very real possibility. No way they're letting Cheshire in on the plan. She's too untrustworthy. She may definitely try to take revenge.

On the flip side of the argument, you could say that going against the team could sour her relationship with Roy, destroying her plans of building a stable family for her daughter.

#49 Posted by Bestostero (5618 posts) - - Show Bio

Well if you think about it, it could actually benefit the team cause if Cheshire goes after them, it will only make the bad guys believe that Kaldur did turn and that Artemis is really dead.

So it works to their advantage, and it's Nightwing, I'm sure he accounted for Cheshire.

#50 Posted by CrimsonCake (2669 posts) - - Show Bio

I think they kind of ruined the suspense by showing her Fake death at the beginning of the episode.

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