Also need a suggestion or two for good runs to finish out the first rounds

there both good :/

Remender for me.

Before I started reading this, I didn't really give a crap about characters like Deadpool, Fantomex and Psylocke, but after reading this book it was good to see they all had a place and were written very well. The relationship between Psylocke and Archangel felt real, and was quite emotional, Deadpool wasn't overdone, I was even starting to like Fantomex somewhat. Those are the call signs of a good writer if he has the ability to make characters you don't like, likeable.

The story lines are also pretty well crafted. Good use of the AoA, and while I personally think the the "Dark Angel Saga" is kind of drawn out, It's still a good story. I tend to think Apocalypse can be kind of a useless villain despite what fans will tell you, but I think his disciples are used pretty well in the arc. Overall, the run is full of action and great character stuff all the while they travel through dimensions and fight super villains...not a whole lot more you can ask from a super hero comic.

I don't think anything substantial came from Gillens run.

Remender's current Marvel work may be subpar, but Uncanny X-Force will always be one of my favorite mutant stories.

@koays: how about artist vs artist? Like idk, Jim Lee's X-men vs Alan Davis' Excalibur

@dman1366: I can see that working. Especially interesting with how many X-Men artist and fill ins there have been. Plus fan loyalties will be ineffect BIG TIME.

Really though i'm looking story runs at the moment just to move on with the tournament

Well, AvX did spawn from it. And AvX Consequences could be considered the real end of the run...so it could be argued that current Uncanny X-Men and All New spawned from this....but directly from this run idk since Sinister has gone "poof"

I have no doubts that the direction the book took after AvX was more of a decision of editorial and the Marvel higher ups. Gillen was just there. Anyone could have done it.

idk, is Rebel Cyclops even possible(or rather believable) without Extinction Cyclops? Storylines may have been dropped, but i think thats a bit of important characterization that can't be removed for it to make sense.

I happen to like both runs on this one. My vote goes to Remender who I happen to think is one of the en best writers out there.

Remender's Xforce was awesome with very few low points. Its too bad that the stories from that run are only continued in what is considered an Avengers book. I favor the more dark stories and Uncanny Xforce does that. In fact I feel like you get a better understanding of Apocalypse in Remender's run. Also this is the best depiction of Wolverine as a leader, not that Aaron Schism crap about kids and all. Of course I have to knock the inclusion of Fantomex. Absolutely a waste. Cable or Bishop would have been better. If I need a Frenchman type I'd go for Gambit. Weapon Omega could have fit this run as well as Magik. Deadpoool I could take or leave.

Gillen's run was largely underrated in my opinion. I also think he was railroaded by the event. I would have liked to see him doing the revolution and continuing on Uncann rather than Bendis. Gillen's Extinction team is still one of my favorite concepts and in my opinion wasn't given time to run its course. In fact I wish we could somehow get back to that concept at least with replacements for any who wouldn't be down for the ride. The best part of Gillen's run though was AVX: Consequences. And while the concept and premise was on point and much better than the pointlessness we see currently, the execution was a bit lacking. I think he did a great job with a fairly large cast. I mean a nine member team? Geez!! But his run just felt so important because it set up so much and felt like the backstory, tie up loose ends type book that can give you a good understanding of things going forward.

All that said, just in terms of concept and execution as well as character development, I have to go with Remender. In fact in my book not many could stand up to Remender by those criteria. Gillen is solid and should still be writing x-books. I'd love to see what his concepts would be for the revolutionary team now. I'm actually looking forward to his upcoming Angela series. All in all both are good books and both are enjoyable

What I am saying is...that I can't confirm....nor deny really, that all of that was Gillens idea. I think that those developments might have played with or without him, thus, leading me to feel like his work on that book was sort of insubstantial. Not saying its bad, just didn't really peak my interest.

@cattlebattle: Aye, I respect that

Bump for decisive votes?

@koays:

no uxf wins

@hopesummersforthefuture: Lol this is worst then Astonishing vs X-Treme.....by the time i type up the next match it could be tied again.

I voted for X-Force only B-cuz they were kind of like assassins. I'm I right or confusing this?

Yup definetly X-Force in a nutshell.

oh ok thanks.

UXF is my vote. The reason is cause the writers took this team to the next level, as a killing squad lol.

Remender's Uncanny X-force. The assassins oh how I loooove this team. I was hooked with this book.

Gillen!!!

I will elaborate later.

Well the killing squad thing already happened in the X-Force before

Ahh the good, old times