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The Uncanny X-Men are a superhero team of mutants that were founded by fellow mutant Professor Charles Xavier. They are dedicated to helping fellow mutants and sworn to protect a world that fears and hates them.

X-Men.... Dude, wait, what?!

#1 Edited by Skunkstein (548 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Ive always been more of a DC fanboy, but was always into the X-Men, Spider-Man, DD and recently started reading Hulk (Thanks to Comicvine and enjoying it too), but ive never read them as frequantly as i would have Batman, GL or Nightwing, so im not at all as informed in the Marvel superstars as i could be... Still heres the thing:

I know that the Marvel universe is connected, the writers try most of the time to have their stories in the same continuity but thats where it gets messed up for me.

We all know that mutants in the Marvel universe are.... well unliked by most of the average population and government, which in it self is fine, it makes some cool storylines and overrall makes the mutants cooler, all odds against them, ya know. But... i remember reading this collection of X-Men stories and in one of them there is this problem at a military base, so these military guys are informed that help is on its way, now in response to this one of the soldiers ask if its the Fantastic 4 but is told that its the X-Men which he responses to with something like ''Those mutant freaks?!''

So just summoned up, a one and a half ton ugly rock man, a dude without bones and a guy whos on fire all from a sunburn in space is acceptable but a guy who heals very quick, a woman who controls weather and a guy who teleports all from genetic mutations should just be put in a concentration camp? I just dont buy it... can anyone explain further, is it just supposed to be comic logic?

#2 Posted by hectorsquall (1007 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

It's not really logic, it's more like racism. In the Marvel Universe, mutants are seen as another race, Homo Superior, the next step in evolution. Like what happened with Neanderthals' extinction (they may have been killed off by Homo Sapiens) some mutants want to replace humankind as the dominant species so a large majority of people in the Marvel Universe are afraid of them and only see them as some kind of freaks and homicidal maniacs with super powers.

#3 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (2881 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

Given the amount of superhumans, aliens and villains, the whole idea that the X-Men would be targets for racism has always been a stretch. It tends to fall apart if you think about it too critically. Even the other angle doesn't quite work: a mutant should feel more self-hatred because most of them had regular lives and didn't want these powers in the first place, yet after a few arcs, many become superheroes or vigilantes. It's always been a limp reach to make the X-Men different and relevant. Especially since so many superheroes became superpowered by choice, so actively sought out the powers that they currently have, which seems much closer to being powermad than the mutants are.

It would probably be a little more understandable if the mutants were more similar to vampires or creepy villains, who need to feed off of or kill humans to power themselves. But many of the ones we see are attractive, law abiding citizens. So, yeah, it falls very flat.

And spending so much money to make giant mutant hunting robots to hunt down superhumans, who for the most part, have worthless or semi-useful powers is a big waste of any country's GDP.

#4 Posted by Skunkstein (548 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@hectorsquall: Yeah, that makes sense... but i still find it a little.. you know, strange. Its not like mutants are the only one with superpowers, like PhoenixoftheTides says: it would make more sense if they was in fact like vampires or something.

@PhoenixoftheTides: Yep, my thoughts aswell. But hey, there is A LOT of these things in comics.

#5 Edited by LordOfAllHumans (3069 posts) - 1 year, 1 month ago - Show Bio

@Skunkstein said:

Ive always been more of a DC fanboy, but was always into the X-Men, Spider-Man, DD and recently started reading Hulk (Thanks to Comicvine and enjoying it too), but ive never read them as frequantly as i would have Batman, GL or Nightwing, so im not at all as informed in the Marvel superstars as i could be... Still heres the thing:

I know that the Marvel universe is connected, the writers try most of the time to have their stories in the same continuity but thats where it gets messed up for me.

We all know that mutants in the Marvel universe are.... well unliked by most of the average population and government, which in it self is fine, it makes some cool storylines and overrall makes the mutants cooler, all odds against them, ya know. But... i remember reading this collection of X-Men stories and in one of them there is this problem at a military base, so these military guys are informed that help is on its way, now in response to this one of the soldiers ask if its the Fantastic 4 but is told that its the X-Men which he responses to with something like ''Those mutant freaks?!''

So just summoned up, a one and a half ton ugly rock man, a dude without bones and a guy whos on fire all from a sunburn in space is acceptable but a guy who heals very quick, a woman who controls weather and a guy who teleports all from genetic mutations should just be put in a concentration camp? I just dont buy it... can anyone explain further, is it just supposed to be comic logic?

When the Xmen were created Marvel Earth was not overrun by aliens and other supers, the numbers were low and most had secret identities. In just about every alien/god bio in the handbooks said that the general populace didn't know they existed. The Fantastic Four for instance, it was widely known that they were humans and changed later, surviving a space shuttle being damaged make one a hero not a monster, even if it turns you into a man made of rock etc. There really is nothing to suggest that most non-mutant supers were not initially thought to be mutants by the average human which is why it seems that the non-mutant supers join groups with great PR like the FF and the Avengers they can walk with regular humans and not be as hated. The Xmen were created to reflect the social climate of the time, to simplify it, white people = Marvel humans, black people = Marvel Mutants and apparently non-mutant supers = "mixed people" whom were more excepted by the general populace. It makes perfect sense, even today there are people that still hate black people, just like people still hate mutants in Marvel.

Furthermore, they see mutants as a bigger threat than any alien or super living on Earth because humans randomly give/gave birth to mutants. This alone can cause a shift in the population, not to mention there are incidents of human women giving birth to mutant children and dying because of the mutants particular mutation, or mutant children manifesting powers and killing people near them usually their parents. This is rarely the case with aliens and other supers, they all tend to be adults and even the children (Power Pack) don't pose such a threat to a parent because they were not born that way and for the most part mutant children tend to be crazy powerful when compared to other super children. Mutants being born from humans is evolution, it makes sense that humans would hate something that looks to be the next step in evolution with single members that can wipe out all life on a planet with a stray thought.

Mutants feel self hatred because they are different and the social norm is to not like different. This happens still in the real world, and doesn't go away because some seem to think it's stupid or outdated thinking. There are plenty of black people that would rather be white, because they have grown up feeling ashamed of being black. There are some gay people that hate being gay (they too grew up in the same largely homophobic world as any straight person). So its common for people that are different to hate themselves if they are raised in an environment that teaches that what they are, is to be hated.

There is no magical point in time that suddenly erases what happened to people. Even if mutants were to be embraced, are they suddenly suppose to forget what happened to them and their race in the past? That's very disrespectful to the ones that died before them. Are they supposed to think that because one person is nice to them, that they will all be the same? that is rarely the case with people, and since mutants are people they know all to well how people act and think.

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