X-Men #1 delayed to May 29, 2013

#1 Edited by jhazzroucher (15744 posts) - - Show Bio
#2 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher: BOOO!

oh well, if it's to ensure a higher and/or more consistent level of quality, I guess I'd rather wait.

but still, BOOO!!

#3 Posted by Vance Astro (91220 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't even come out with it then. It's likely to flop anyway, but you're going to push it back to Summer? GTFOH!

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#4 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

Don't even come out with it then. It's likely to flop anyway, but you're going to push it back to Summer? GTFOH!

Really? It seems to be the X-book that everyone I know is most anticipating; what makes you think it will flop?

personally, as much as I'm looking foreword to it, I'd rather wait for a better book than see one quickly cobbled together to be rushed out..

#5 Edited by ptigrusmagus (490 posts) - - Show Bio

Its always cause for concern when women are running a couple weeks late. On a serious note there are too many ongoing X-books for me to follow and fully enjoy all at once... but I'll likely be picking this up anyway.

#6 Posted by PhoenixoftheTides (3549 posts) - - Show Bio

No worries. A month isn't that much time in the grand scheme of things.

#7 Posted by time (5000 posts) - - Show Bio

Typical

#8 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@ptigrusmagus said:

Its always cause for concern when women are running a couple weeks late. On a serious note there are too many ongoing X-books for me to follow and fully enjoy all at once... but I'll likely be picking this up anyway.

ah hahahaha!

#9 Posted by cattlebattle (12759 posts) - - Show Bio

When was it suppose to come out??

#10 Posted by Vance Astro (91220 posts) - - Show Bio
@dangallant984 said:

Really? It seems to be the X-book that everyone I know is most anticipating; what makes you think it will flop?

personally, as much as I'm looking foreword to it, I'd rather wait for a better book than see one quickly cobbled together to be rushed out..

I'm anticipating this as well but first week sales doesn't determine whether the book will have any longevity. The same risk of dropping the book in the first place will be present whether they drop it in April or if they drop it in May. Books with female leads have never worked for Marvel and on top of it there are several other X-Men books out there already only difference here is this one is exclusive to female characters, of which Marvel has had little success with.
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#11 Posted by Xwraith (18036 posts) - - Show Bio

According to Brian Wood, it was pushed back because someone who works on the book (he wouldn't say who) lost a family member.

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#12 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6286 posts) - - Show Bio

"What do they think this is, Uncanny Avengers? Issue #2 is scheduled for the 15th of May so odds are that will change as well…"

This seems like an odd thing to say. Why would it even be a possibility that they'd release #2 before #1?

I'm actually kinda glad it's delayed. Means there's less time I'll be getting Age Of Ultron and this at the same time, so it'll keep my monthly costs down a little. If I decide to start getting this. Which I probably will.

#13 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

Quite unfortunate, but considering the fact that this is probably going to be one of the best X-Titles on the stands, i can wait. A long time.

#14 Posted by lorex (954 posts) - - Show Bio

Not the end of the world and I would prefer it be as good as possible rather than be rushed out. I would like for them to reveal the actual reason for the delay, but thats just me.

#15 Posted by akbogert (3222 posts) - - Show Bio

I already thought I had to wait too long for this.

This news kinda sucks. I know I'm not the only one who is more excited about this title than any other Marvel NOW book.

#16 Posted by AgeofHurricane (7297 posts) - - Show Bio

@lorex said:

Not the end of the world and I would prefer it be as good as possible rather than be rushed out. I would like for them to reveal the actual reason for the delay, but thats just me.

Member of the creative team had a relative/close one who had sadly passed away.

#17 Edited by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

I'm anticipating this as well but first week sales doesn't determine whether the book will have any longevity. The same risk of dropping the book in the first place will be present whether they drop it in April or if they drop it in May. Books with female leads have never worked for Marvel and on top of it there are several other X-Men books out there already only difference here is this one is exclusive to female characters, of which Marvel has had little success with.

*unless you count Uncanny X-men in the 80's, which is where this cast is from.

Honestly, though, as much as I'm anticipating this cast, in my opinion, the actual difference between this book and other X-men books will be the quality of the creative team. Most books with female leads lean heavily on the novelty factor; given Wood's (albeit brief) experience with these characters, I really am expecting much better of him.

Then again, you could be completely right, I just hope not.

@AgeofHurricane said:

Quite unfortunate, but considering the fact that this is probably going to be one of the best X-Titles on the stands, i can wait. A long time.

here here!

#18 Posted by Vance Astro (91220 posts) - - Show Bio
@dangallant984 said:

*unless you count Uncanny X-men in the 80's, which is where this cast is from.

I don't.
 
@dangallant984 said:

the actual difference between this book and other X-men books will be the quality of the creative team.

What's wrong with the creative team of the other books?
 
@dangallant984 said:

Most books with female leads lean heavily on the novelty factor

Could you elaborate?
 
@dangallant984 said:

Then again, you could be completely right, I just hope not.

I'm not hoping to be right. I'm just saying. I want this book to do well, but I'm afraid certain factors may be against this back and I think pushing it back only hurts it further. My anticipation is dying down, i'm starting not to care.
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#19 Posted by IllyanaRasputin (1115 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

*unless you count Uncanny X-men in the 80's, which is where this cast is from.

I don't.

@dangallant984 said:

the actual difference between this book and other X-men books will be the quality of the creative team.

What's wrong with the creative team of the other books?

@dangallant984 said:

Most books with female leads lean heavily on the novelty factor

Could you elaborate?

@dangallant984 said:

Then again, you could be completely right, I just hope not.

I'm not hoping to be right. I'm just saying. I want this book to do well, but I'm afraid certain factors may be against this back and I think pushing it back only hurts it further. My anticipation is dying down, i'm starting not to care.

Haha. You make me smile - but I agree with ya!

#20 Posted by MadeinBangladesh (6844 posts) - - Show Bio

DAMN IT! I'm still waiting......

#21 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

*unless you count Uncanny X-men in the 80's, which is where this cast is from.

I don't.

Why not?

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

the actual difference between this book and other X-men books will be the quality of the creative team.

What's wrong with the creative team of the other books?

It's not that I have a particular problem with the creative teams making the X-books I'm reading, and I'm certainly not going to comment on the ones that I'm not; it's just that, personally, I'm especially interested in seeing Wood return to these characters, as I feel he's shown he has a great, natural-feeling understanding of them.

And, outside of Immonen and Marquez, there are few artists working on X-books right now that interest me as much as Coipel.

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

Most books with female leads lean heavily on the novelty factor

Could you elaborate?

I just mean that it can be hard to find a mainstream superhero comic with a female lead in which the fact that she (or they) are female doesn't seem like half of the premise, which seems completely unnecessary to me. There are some, to be sure, but the X-men have been doing it through some of their best and most popular periods for years.

#22 Posted by Vance Astro (91220 posts) - - Show Bio
@dangallant984 said:

Why not?

I don't remember the team ever having an all-female roster until now.  I remember there being rosters that were almost entirely female, never completely.

@dangallant984 said:

It's not that I have a particular problem with the creative teams making the X-books I'm reading, and I'm certainly not going to comment on the ones that I'm not; it's just that, personally, I'm especially interested in seeing Wood return to these characters, as I feel he's shown he has a great, natural-feeling understanding of them.

And, outside of Immonen and Marquez, there are few artists working on X-books right now that interest me as much as Coipel.

Ok.
 
@dangallant984 said:

I just mean that it can be hard to find a mainstream superhero comic with a female lead in which the fact that she (or they) are female doesn't seem like half of the premise, which seems completely unnecessary to me. There are some, to be sure, but the X-men have been doing it through some of their best and most popular periods for years.

I don't understand what you're talking about. I don't find any female lead books to be like that but I am a different type of reader though. I never knew the premise of She-Hulk, Ms.Marvel, Elektra, Silver Sable, etc. books to be their gender at any point.
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#23 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

Why not?

I don't remember the team ever having an all-female roster until now. I remember there being rosters that were almost entirely female, never completely.

That's technically true, I just meant that Storm, Kitty, Rogue, and even Jubilee have spent more time as main characters (often at the same time) than many, maybe even most X-men characters. And they certainly were in the 80's, as well as much of the 90's.

#24 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6286 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984 said:

@Vance Astro said:

@dangallant984 said:

Most books with female leads lean heavily on the novelty factor

Could you elaborate?

I just mean that it can be hard to find a mainstream superhero comic with a female lead in which the fact that she (or they) are female doesn't seem like half of the premise, which seems completely unnecessary to me. There are some, to be sure, but the X-men have been doing it through some of their best and most popular periods for years.

Could you give some examples?

#25 Posted by Dman1366 (598 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh...... this sucks. My life is annoying

#26 Posted by jhazzroucher (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

waiting is worth the wait. : )

#27 Posted by c2thaj (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh, gives me more time to save up monies for the variant covers.

#28 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

@dangallant984 said:

I just mean that it can be hard to find a mainstream superhero comic with a female lead in which the fact that she (or they) are female doesn't seem like half of the premise, which seems completely unnecessary to me. There are some, to be sure, but the X-men have been doing it through some of their best and most popular periods for years.

Could you give some examples?

of which?

#29 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6286 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984:Mainstream superhero comics with a female lead in which the fact that she(or they) are female is like half the premise.

#30 Edited by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@V_Scarlotte_Rose: these aren't all uniformly bad, in fact I enjoyed some of them, but these are the sort of thing I'm talking about:

these are just examples from Marvel, since that's what we were talking about. I think the most recent volume of Captain Marvel is pretty decent, Uncanny X-force and the Fearless Defenders look promising, but other than those, and this up coming X-men book, what Marvel books really have female leads right now? Are there any solo books?

#31 Edited by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6286 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984: Hmm. I have about half of that Ms. Marvel run, and I don't know what you mean. I'll re-read them and look out for emphasis on her being a woman.

I haven't read X-Women, Her-oes or Marvel Divas, but I'm guessing by the titles that these might be using being women as some sort of gimmick. I hate that that can even happen, it doesn't make sense for half of the human species to be presented like a minority.

I do like Captain Marvel. FF is kinda led by Scott Lang, but the other three are women, She-Hulk, Medusa and Ms. Thing.

Red She-Hulk has a solo ongoing, but I haven't read it, so I don't know what it's like.

#32 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

I haven't read X-Women, Her-oes or Marvel Divas, but I'm guessing by the titles that these might be using being women as some sort of gimmick. I hate that that can even happen, it doesn't make sense for half of the human species to be presented like a minority.

I didn't mean to make a big thing out of this, but this ^ was basically my point.

#33 Posted by poisonfleur (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

May 29th is my birthday!! :D

So Happpy Birthday to meeeeeeeeeee!

#34 Posted by chasereis (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984: Hmmm. I understood you perfectly. Marvel markets to certain demographics male and female. However I dont think that where the conversation was going...

#35 Posted by RawrImADragon (206 posts) - - Show Bio

meh... it's not like i'm short of comic books to read until then...

#36 Posted by V_Scarlotte_Rose (6286 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984 said:

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

I haven't read X-Women, Her-oes or Marvel Divas, but I'm guessing by the titles that these might be using being women as some sort of gimmick. I hate that that can even happen, it doesn't make sense for half of the human species to be presented like a minority.

I didn't mean to make a big thing out of this, but this ^ was basically my point.

Very valid point.

#37 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

@dangallant984 said:

@V_Scarlotte_Rose said:

I haven't read X-Women, Her-oes or Marvel Divas, but I'm guessing by the titles that these might be using being women as some sort of gimmick. I hate that that can even happen, it doesn't make sense for half of the human species to be presented like a minority.

I didn't mean to make a big thing out of this, but this ^ was basically my point.

Very valid point.

heeheehee!

#38 Posted by jhazzroucher (15744 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur said:

May 29th is my birthday!! :D

So Happpy Birthday to meeeeeeeeeee!

mine is May 27. : )

#39 Posted by tomchu (522 posts) - - Show Bio

Not enough books with female leads/ characters. Glad this is coming out. Hopefully this won't flop like some past attempts of female teams (I'm looking at you Young Allies)

PLUS, BRIAN WOOD STORY AND OLIVER COIPEL ART. BOOYAHHH!

#40 Posted by poisonfleur (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

@jhazzroucher said:

@poisonfleur said:

May 29th is my birthday!! :D

So Happpy Birthday to meeeeeeeeeee!

mine is May 27. : )

Then get it for my birthday! :D

#41 Posted by poisonfleur (3039 posts) - - Show Bio

@dangallant984 said:

@V_Scarlotte_Rose: these aren't all uniformly bad, in fact I enjoyed some of them, but these are the sort of thing I'm talking about:

these are just examples from Marvel, since that's what we were talking about. I think the most recent volume of Captain Marvel is pretty decent, Uncanny X-force and the Fearless Defenders look promising, but other than those, and this up coming X-men book, what Marvel books really have female leads right now? Are there any solo books?

LMFAO 'Her-oes'-- NOW NOBODY Can take that seriously. LOL

I like X-women's cover. Although I am glad the new all woman team in may coming out is called X-men and not X-women. X-women sounds like a spin off... They don't need a penis in the group to validate them as x-men. X-men have most of the best women in Marvel--- It's good to see a team consisting of all ovely ladies of x-men.

#42 Posted by broo1232 (1520 posts) - - Show Bio

OHHH I was so looking forward to it well I suppose it doesn't matter if it's of good quality in the end.

#43 Posted by dangallant984 (1282 posts) - - Show Bio

@poisonfleur said:

LMFAO 'Her-oes'-- NOW NOBODY Can take that seriously. LOL

I like X-women's cover. Although I am glad the new all woman team in may coming out is called X-men and not X-women. X-women sounds like a spin off... They don't need a penis in the group to validate them as x-men. X-men have most of the best women in Marvel--- It's good to see a team consisting of all ovely ladies of x-men.

Well put. And, in my opinion, most of the best X-men comics have women or girls as their main characters, even when they aren't in the majority (which is also fairly often).

X-women was drawn by Milo Manara, who is a really great artist, in my opinion, but he is mostly known for his erotic comics, and that's mostly what this is. It's beautiful erotic fantasy, but it's also borderline character assassination fan-fic. It's not the X-men, even if the characters do bare their likeness.

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