@ApatheticAvenger said:
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@ApatheticAvenger said:
What is TRULY awful? Two words: Chuck Austen. His entire X-Men run was plagued with terrible storytelling.
He wrote that Angel rebuilt Iceman's body out of urine. OUT OF URINE. Let's not get into the fact that a human bladder could not hold an entire body's volume of urine, but come on. ANGEL PEED A NEW BODY FOR ICEMAN. My God.
I'm glad I skipped that run, that's not only disgusting, it sounds amateurish.
Morrison's writing is off and on for me. There's been some Morrison writing I liked (Arkham Asylum), and some I didn't (New X-Men). I didn't care for the look during that run either. The black costumes looked dull, maybe if a different art team had been on the book it would have been better. But that's just my taste. This might be a wildly unpopular opinion, but I don't much care for Alan Davis or Mike Allred either.
I've just read "New X-Men" and I'm still not sure about how I feel about this series. Guess I'll have to read it again sometime.
I think that Morrison's New X-Men is a lot less consistent than people remember it being. The highs of his run are really high...probably some of the best X-Men stuff written. The bad stuff is, well it's not Chuck Austen bad, but not exactly top tier stuff (Beak and Angel Salvadore teen mutant pregnancy arc comes to mind).
Ha, I loved that. But I'm weird, so I can see why that could be considered a low point for Morrison (which would be considered a high point for any other writer).
Let's not forget Morrison had no understanding of Cyclops and Jean Grey Marriage, that was one of the worst things about his run. I still can't believe people like his Jean Grey, he really treated her poorly.
@HopesummersFORtheFUTURE said:
Killing off jean grey for the second time and having her wake up in a horrible future
Totally agree with you, worst thing ever, is he didn't give her time to deal with Emma and Scott. What was it, one issue.
I think years of 2000 in X-Men comics, don' t compare to early 1990s or 80's. There have some really rubbish titles and stories told over the last 10 years. Although there been some good titles, like the X-Force, Yost and Kyle did a great job, best series within the last 10 years.
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@cattlebattle said:
Everything from the past 10-12 years is petty disastrous honestly. It all started with "The Twelve" and went down hill from there...there was a couple of redeeming stories though.
I agree, although Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run and X-Force were one of the few good stories from the past 10 years.
Morrisons run, and several story arcs here and there were good, Messiah Complex arc was actually decent, X-Factor is usually pretty interesting. Magneto: Testament, X-Men First Class and some stories that operated out of the main timeline were awesome. I swear though, the stuff from Land and Fraction was just appalling, those guys honestly made the X-Men dead to me. I honestly think Whedons run is overly hyped, while I did enjoy it....its usual Whedon writing, nothing stellar. All the characters just have loads of snark and people like Brand are written like usual Whedon characters, all the villains were not threatening on the level that villains in some other great story arcs have been. Ord is a moron, Danger was the X-Mens version of Ultron basically. Its a good, fun read, but I think people hold it in too high esteem for an X-men title only because Whedon wrote it.
I think Morrison and Joss Whedon run is very much overrated. I also think X-Factor is overrated too.
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