@Phaedrusgr: Ultimate X-Men addressed this in this weeks issue. The X-Men no longer hold any moral high ground in my opinion.

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it. 4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

It's actually funny how the Avengers (who usually kept Wanda's matters to themselves) wants to now handle the Phoenix Force situation while the X-Men (who've handled the Phoenix Force many times) now wants to deal with the Scarlet Witch and her doings... someone needs to tell these two teams to pick a subject and deal with it together... then proceed to the next one!! (I personally would deal with the PF first then go have Wanda repower all the depowered mutants!!!)

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

It's actually funny how the Avengers (who usually kept Wanda's matters to themselves) wants to now handle the Phoenix Force situation while the X-Men (who've handled the Phoenix Force many times) now wants to deal with the Scarlet Witch and her doings... someone needs to tell these two teams to pick a subject and deal with it together... then proceed to the next one!! (I personally would deal with the PF first then go have Wanda repower all the depowered mutants!!!)

Wanda can't repower mutants anymore. She's not connected to the Life Force. Rictor got lucky.

@TheGreyOutcastX said:

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

It's actually funny how the Avengers (who usually kept Wanda's matters to themselves) wants to now handle the Phoenix Force situation while the X-Men (who've handled the Phoenix Force many times) now wants to deal with the Scarlet Witch and her doings... someone needs to tell these two teams to pick a subject and deal with it together... then proceed to the next one!! (I personally would deal with the PF first then go have Wanda repower all the depowered mutants!!!)

Wanda can't repower mutants anymore. She's not connected to the Life Force. Rictor got lucky.

Don't ruin my perfect image... All I want is for Wind Dancer, Prodigy, and Moonstar to be repowered! Now hush... I'm still imagining it!!

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

It's actually funny how the Avengers (who usually kept Wanda's matters to themselves) wants to now handle the Phoenix Force situation while the X-Men (who've handled the Phoenix Force many times) now wants to deal with the Scarlet Witch and her doings... someone needs to tell these two teams to pick a subject and deal with it together... then proceed to the next one!! (I personally would deal with the PF first then go have Wanda repower all the depowered mutants!!!)

@papad1992: Yea, and I want Nate Grey to have his powers back, but that's not happening anytime soon either lol

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

Guys she said she was sorry. Isn't that enough?

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@papad1992 said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

It's actually funny how the Avengers (who usually kept Wanda's matters to themselves) wants to now handle the Phoenix Force situation while the X-Men (who've handled the Phoenix Force many times) now wants to deal with the Scarlet Witch and her doings... someone needs to tell these two teams to pick a subject and deal with it together... then proceed to the next one!! (I personally would deal with the PF first then go have Wanda repower all the depowered mutants!!!)

I do find that surprising that all of a sudden, the Avengers are getting into the X-Men's business while the X-Men is getting into the Avengers' business.

All we need is the FF to come in and then we'll have Marvel's biggest teams fighting it out... but that'd probably never happen!

@TheGreyOutcastX said:

@papad1992: Yea, and I want Nate Grey to have his powers back, but that's not happening anytime soon either lol

Does she have the power to make him wear shoes and a shirt? Dude can't even go into a Circle K right now...

@Nudeviking said:

@Rabbitearsblog said:

@WeaponX619 said:

1. Capt didn't think that whole process through just showing up on Utopia unannouced and Cyclops just say okay take Hope after half of our main X-Men died to save her. 2. Wolverine isn't a traitor, obviously Capt and him are going to disagree with something about Hope giving that she is still a child. I agree with @ReVamp with him siding with the Avengers from jump when they are going to attack his school. 3. I do think the point of this whole thing is stupid, the Avengers need to worry about Wanda and let the X-Men who know the most about the Phoenix Force handle it.4. Realistically the X-Men would win anyways in my opinion

I agree with all this, especially about how the Avengers should really be dealing with Wanda and not with the X-Men at this point.

Guys she said she was sorry. Isn't that enough?

Bullsh!t that's not enough!! Many ex-mutants killed themselves or got killed by haters or died in the process of losing their powers when she whispered those little evil words... so NO, we'll never forget!! Try a little harder honey, and maybe we'll mention ur name in a hero discussion!!

@Nudeviking: To your first question: No!

Second question: He had shoes! In Fear itself, they gave him shoes! Why didn't he keep the shoes?!!! But outside of missions, he dresses like a normal dude. Shirt, shoes, and all.

@papad1992:

Vision is that you? :P

@Nudeviking said:

@papad1992:

Vision is that you? :P

She deserved that one... killed most of a race and she's crying and acting all civil like she's so innocent after what she'd done!! Ms. Marvel is only taking her high up in the air only to drop her!!

@TheGreyOutcastX: Really? In that issue where Magma goes on a date in Hell, he's lounging about in their townhouse or whatever shirtless and without shoes drinking beer. Also was him having shoes a key point of Fear Itself? I couldn't keep up with all the tie-ins. Was there a promo image like this one about Nate and shoes?

@papad1992 said:

@Nudeviking said:

@papad1992:

Vision is that you? :P

She deserved that one... killed most of a race and she's crying and acting all civil like she's so innocent after what she'd done!! Ms. Marvel is only taking her high up in the air only to drop her!!

You just ruined ever adolescent boy's fantasy of Ms. Marvel taking her away to make out with her.

@Nudeviking:

@TheGreyOutcastX: Wow. He's been shoed fairly often as of late. Frankly I'm a little disappointed. I liked quasi-hippie Nate.

@Nudeviking: I think it depends on the artist. Lopez gave him shoes, but currently he's bare footed and it's another artist. Personally, he needs a new costume.

@TheGreyOutcastX: Yeah his Trent Reznor circa 1994 leather pants are kind of played out.

@Nudeviking: I'm looking for a updated combo look of his original clothes and the X-Factor suit he got from Scott. He's shaman look needs to be in a closet or a museum.

Wolverine is a traitor! It is my sincere hope that someone smacks some sense into the guy.

@Nudeviking: Oh...so sweet! Ok,go to your room and stay there for a while just to think about your fault. (Good comment, man)

@Phaedrusgr said:

@Nudeviking: Oh...so sweet! Ok,go to your room and stay there for a while just to think about your fault. (Good comment, man)

What am I suppose to be thinking about? I yelled a lot of different junk in this thread. Is it about X-Man Nate Grey and his shoes or Scarlet Witch and Ms. Marvel making out or something else?

@Nudeviking said:

@papad1992 said:

@Nudeviking said:

@papad1992:

Vision is that you? :P

She deserved that one... killed most of a race and she's crying and acting all civil like she's so innocent after what she'd done!! Ms. Marvel is only taking her high up in the air only to drop her!!

You just ruined ever adolescent boy's fantasy of Ms. Marvel taking her away to make out with her.

Fine... to have the improvement of adolescent teens (because they matter) she can make out with her in mid air then drop her M-Day ass!!!

@papad1992: Can Ms. Marvel cop a feel of datass before she drops it? It would mean a lot of 13 year old boys the world over.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@papad1992 said:

@TheGreyOutcastX: I've seen that cover before! I was hoping u would know more behind it but I'll just have to wait!! There's also this cover too:

It features some X-students on it...

the writer cage said that dust and surge are gonna dispute with laura and think of her as a traitor (although that is out of character for dust)

Could you show me the interview for this please ? Cause i know Cage said that both Surge and Dust would have a long talk with Laure about her decisions and such, but now accuse her or think of her of being a traitor.

The last time we talked about "Avengers Academy," you mentioned X-23 would play a role in the "AvX" story line. Will we see her interact with the kids of "Generation Hope" or will she be interacting with some other youthful X-Men?

Laura's interactions will actually be primarily with her former classmates from the New X-Men, Dust and Surge, who consider her a traitor for being part of an Avengers organization that is keeping them against their will. It's an interesting situation for someone as unused to exploring emotions as Laura. She left the X-Men in part because she didn't want to choose sides in the "Schism," but now there's no avoiding it -- you're either on one side or the other. So she'll have to really consider who and what she wants to be

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37615

Well someone needs to tell this guy to brush up on some Dust heavy stories and see that considering someone as a traitor is way out of reach for her character!! I hate how they're treating her recently!!

I wouldn't say the way Dust has been portrayed recently is out of character to be honest, given her choice to stay with Cyclops and her reasons behind it, as well as what she's been through, I think it's just character development, good character development at that.

Have u read the New X-Men series? That was great character development for Dust. Having her stay on utopia as a solider recruit like a military is completely and utterly out of character for her and bad development!! She's only really explained her "reason" recently in X-Men Legacy briefly but that's not a good enough reason for her to not be by her friends! The ones that endured the same pain but have come to the conclusion to overcome it!

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@papad1992 said:

@TheGreyOutcastX: I've seen that cover before! I was hoping u would know more behind it but I'll just have to wait!! There's also this cover too:

It features some X-students on it...

the writer cage said that dust and surge are gonna dispute with laura and think of her as a traitor (although that is out of character for dust)

Could you show me the interview for this please ? Cause i know Cage said that both Surge and Dust would have a long talk with Laure about her decisions and such, but now accuse her or think of her of being a traitor.

The last time we talked about "Avengers Academy," you mentioned X-23 would play a role in the "AvX" story line. Will we see her interact with the kids of "Generation Hope" or will she be interacting with some other youthful X-Men?

Laura's interactions will actually be primarily with her former classmates from the New X-Men, Dust and Surge, who consider her a traitor for being part of an Avengers organization that is keeping them against their will. It's an interesting situation for someone as unused to exploring emotions as Laura. She left the X-Men in part because she didn't want to choose sides in the "Schism," but now there's no avoiding it -- you're either on one side or the other. So she'll have to really consider who and what she wants to be

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37615

Well someone needs to tell this guy to brush up on some Dust heavy stories and see that considering someone as a traitor is way out of reach for her character!! I hate how they're treating her recently!!

I wouldn't say the way Dust has been portrayed recently is out of character to be honest, given her choice to stay with Cyclops and her reasons behind it, as well as what she's been through, I think it's just character development, good character development at that.

but dust calling laura a traitor ...........thats off i mean wouldn't dust try to see her side of things first and then label her as a traitor

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@papad1992 said:

@TheGreyOutcastX: I've seen that cover before! I was hoping u would know more behind it but I'll just have to wait!! There's also this cover too:

It features some X-students on it...

the writer cage said that dust and surge are gonna dispute with laura and think of her as a traitor (although that is out of character for dust)

Could you show me the interview for this please ? Cause i know Cage said that both Surge and Dust would have a long talk with Laure about her decisions and such, but now accuse her or think of her of being a traitor.

The last time we talked about "Avengers Academy," you mentioned X-23 would play a role in the "AvX" story line. Will we see her interact with the kids of "Generation Hope" or will she be interacting with some other youthful X-Men?

Laura's interactions will actually be primarily with her former classmates from the New X-Men, Dust and Surge, who consider her a traitor for being part of an Avengers organization that is keeping them against their will. It's an interesting situation for someone as unused to exploring emotions as Laura. She left the X-Men in part because she didn't want to choose sides in the "Schism," but now there's no avoiding it -- you're either on one side or the other. So she'll have to really consider who and what she wants to be

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37615

Well someone needs to tell this guy to brush up on some Dust heavy stories and see that considering someone as a traitor is way out of reach for her character!! I hate how they're treating her recently!!

I wouldn't say the way Dust has been portrayed recently is out of character to be honest, given her choice to stay with Cyclops and her reasons behind it, as well as what she's been through, I think it's just character development, good character development at that.

Have u read the New X-Men series? That was great character development for Dust. Having her stay on utopia as a solider recruit like a military is completely and utterly out of character for her and bad development!! She's only really explained her "reason" recently in X-Men Legacy briefly but that's not a good enough reason for her to not be by her friends! The ones that endured the same pain but have come to the conclusion to overcome it!

I read eversyingle issue thank you very much, including New Mutants of 03/04. And for the record, she was still on the same path that Yost/Morrison used for her, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what sort of "character development" was actually happening there for her, only good things were that she was getting a lot more screen time and that her being a strong Muslim Mutant teenager was becoming fully recognized to other readers, that's all. This is a different direction, you can't expect characters to be one-note for all their lives, she's had enough of the running around and helplessly looking for shelter, she can't keep on living what is more or less a complete lie, and no, it's not a good enough reason for you as a fan, it's a perfectly good reason in general as this whole thing is a matter of life and death, Dust felt if she was going to live, Utopia would be the best option and not the school where the majority of her friends were massacred. Also, we haven't even gotten a "reason" for the others like we did for Dust and Surge, for all we know a coin was tossed between Hellion and Prodigy.

I wasn't saying that Dust is/and should be a one-note character, read my post better, I was saying that series like Academy X/New X-Men were great developments for her character and making us see who she is as a character. I read Dust's little comments in X-Men Legacy... actually I have the scans so here...

This little scene for me felt off for some reason! She never voiced her opinion before on the matter and it's been a few years (I'm guessing but not sure) since the school was destroyed and the X-Men and students disbanded. I know she has reserve emotions about going to the same place where she saw massacre after massacre but seriously.... How many times were they attacked on Utopia by serious threats? Bastion, the Necrosha event, Curse of the mutants, etc.... I just don't see her thinking or saying to herself that being on Utopia and training to be in a "military" is better than learning about the world and learning about biological studies and whatever else they teach those kids over there. So I see her straying from who she a little bit at a time with every issue that features her, now with her being in this Avengers Academy story being held captive or whatever... it just doesn't fit right. Even Pixie in the Magneto not a hero mini series said that she misses them and asks how it is there to Anole who admits that it is way different than before.

When this story is over and Scott's attempt to control the Phoenix blows up in his face I want the ghost of Lilandra to pop and say, "Ha Ha told you so."

My dream: In the midle of this nonsense Avengers vs X-men thing, Jean Grey Just pop out and kicked everyone ass! Now That would be Epic!

@UltraBiel said:

My dream: In the midle of this nonsense Avengers vs X-men thing, Jean Grey Just pop out and kicked everyone ass! Now That would be Epic!

Or it would be really terrible writing.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@papad1992 said:

@TheGreyOutcastX: I've seen that cover before! I was hoping u would know more behind it but I'll just have to wait!! There's also this cover too:

It features some X-students on it...

the writer cage said that dust and surge are gonna dispute with laura and think of her as a traitor (although that is out of character for dust)

Could you show me the interview for this please ? Cause i know Cage said that both Surge and Dust would have a long talk with Laure about her decisions and such, but now accuse her or think of her of being a traitor.

The last time we talked about "Avengers Academy," you mentioned X-23 would play a role in the "AvX" story line. Will we see her interact with the kids of "Generation Hope" or will she be interacting with some other youthful X-Men?

Laura's interactions will actually be primarily with her former classmates from the New X-Men, Dust and Surge, who consider her a traitor for being part of an Avengers organization that is keeping them against their will. It's an interesting situation for someone as unused to exploring emotions as Laura. She left the X-Men in part because she didn't want to choose sides in the "Schism," but now there's no avoiding it -- you're either on one side or the other. So she'll have to really consider who and what she wants to be

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37615

Well someone needs to tell this guy to brush up on some Dust heavy stories and see that considering someone as a traitor is way out of reach for her character!! I hate how they're treating her recently!!

I wouldn't say the way Dust has been portrayed recently is out of character to be honest, given her choice to stay with Cyclops and her reasons behind it, as well as what she's been through, I think it's just character development, good character development at that.

Have u read the New X-Men series? That was great character development for Dust. Having her stay on utopia as a solider recruit like a military is completely and utterly out of character for her and bad development!! She's only really explained her "reason" recently in X-Men Legacy briefly but that's not a good enough reason for her to not be by her friends! The ones that endured the same pain but have come to the conclusion to overcome it!

I read eversyingle issue thank you very much, including New Mutants of 03/04. And for the record, she was still on the same path that Yost/Morrison used for her, to be honest, I'm not exactly sure what sort of "character development" was actually happening there for her, only good things were that she was getting a lot more screen time and that her being a strong Muslim Mutant teenager was becoming fully recognized to other readers, that's all. This is a different direction, you can't expect characters to be one-note for all their lives, she's had enough of the running around and helplessly looking for shelter, she can't keep on living what is more or less a complete lie, and no, it's not a good enough reason for you as a fan, it's a perfectly good reason in general as this whole thing is a matter of life and death, Dust felt if she was going to live, Utopia would be the best option and not the school where the majority of her friends were massacred. Also, we haven't even gotten a "reason" for the others like we did for Dust and Surge, for all we know a coin was tossed between Hellion and Prodigy.

I wasn't saying that Dust is/and should be a one-note character, read my post better, I was saying that series like Academy X/New X-Men were great developments for her character and making us see who she is as a character. I read Dust's little comments in X-Men Legacy... actually I have the scans so here...

This little scene for me felt off for some reason! She never voiced her opinion before on the matter and it's been a few years (I'm guessing but not sure) since the school was destroyed and the X-Men and students disbanded. I know she has reserve emotions about going to the same place where she saw massacre after massacre but seriously.... How many times were they attacked on Utopia by serious threats? Bastion, the Necrosha event, Curse of the mutants, etc.... I just don't see her thinking or saying to herself that being on Utopia and training to be in a "military" is better than learning about the world and learning about biological studies and whatever else they teach those kids over there. So I see her straying from who she a little bit at a time with every issue that features her, now with her being in this Avengers Academy story being held captive or whatever... it just doesn't fit right. Even Pixie in the Magneto not a hero mini series said that she misses them and asks how it is there to Anole who admits that it is way different than before.

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

This made me laugh.

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

Oh, you mean the paedophile at heart boy, Velocidad ? My word, Generation Hope #16 really put me off the two of them, LOL. Here's hoping Security Recon #28 and 29 can amend that, at least for Pixie anyways.

Isn't he like fifteen? Wolverine is the pedophile...

@AgeofHurricane said:

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

Oh, you mean the paedophile at heart boy, Velocidad ? My word, Generation Hope #16 really put me off the two of them, LOL. Here's hoping Security Recon #28 and 29 can amend that, at least for Pixie anyways.

Isn't he like fifteen? Wolverine is the pedophile...

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

Oh, you mean the paedophile at heart boy, Velocidad ? My word, Generation Hope #16 really put me off the two of them, LOL. Here's hoping Security Recon #28 and 29 can amend that, at least for Pixie anyways.

Isn't he like fifteen? Wolverine is the pedophile...

@TheGreyOutcastX said:

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@Nudeviking said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

Who cares about Pixie ? -_-

I think that Hispanic kid who pals around with Hope does...or at least cares enough about her to put his tongue in her mouth.

Oh, you mean the paedophile at heart boy, Velocidad ? My word, Generation Hope #16 really put me off the two of them, LOL. Here's hoping Security Recon #28 and 29 can amend that, at least for Pixie anyways.

Isn't he like fifteen? Wolverine is the pedophile...

Oh man that's awesome. Where did you find that?

@Nudeviking: I either found it by chance on Tumblr or got lucky just browsing images.

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@papad1992 said:

@jubilee042 said:

@AgeofHurricane said:

@jubilee042 said:

@papad1992 said:

@TheGreyOutcastX: I've seen that cover before! I was hoping u would know more behind it but I'll just have to wait!! There's also this cover too:

It features some X-students on it...

the writer cage said that dust and surge are gonna dispute with laura and think of her as a traitor (although that is out of character for dust)

Could you show me the interview for this please ? Cause i know Cage said that both Surge and Dust would have a long talk with Laure about her decisions and such, but now accuse her or think of her of being a traitor.

The last time we talked about "Avengers Academy," you mentioned X-23 would play a role in the "AvX" story line. Will we see her interact with the kids of "Generation Hope" or will she be interacting with some other youthful X-Men?

Laura's interactions will actually be primarily with her former classmates from the New X-Men, Dust and Surge, who consider her a traitor for being part of an Avengers organization that is keeping them against their will. It's an interesting situation for someone as unused to exploring emotions as Laura. She left the X-Men in part because she didn't want to choose sides in the "Schism," but now there's no avoiding it -- you're either on one side or the other. So she'll have to really consider who and what she wants to be

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=37615

Well someone needs to tell this guy to brush up on some Dust heavy stories and see that considering someone as a traitor is way out of reach for her character!! I hate how they're treating her recently!!

I wouldn't say the way Dust has been portrayed recently is out of character to be honest, given her choice to stay with Cyclops and her reasons behind it, as well as what she's been through, I think it's just character development, good character development at that.

but dust calling laura a traitor ...........thats off i mean wouldn't dust try to see her side of things first and then label her as a traitor

Luv', we haven't even seen Dust calling or labelling X-23 as a traitor, I'm sure we're just going to get what happened in the opening arc of X-23's series with Laura and X-Force but on a different level.

well u r right about

Wolverine is not a traitor. He will side with the x-men.

If there are traitors, look for Beast and Captain britain

love how the topic deviated from wolverine to dust

@jhazzroucher: Wolverine's siding with the Avengers. And that doesn't make him the traitor. If anything he's totally doing the right thing. What Scott doesn't seem to realise is that by drawing the Phoenix towards Earth, he's threatening the entire planet. The Phoenix entity has a history for blowing planets up so it's only natural that the Avengers want to take Hope into custody. How can the X-Men be so selfish when there are over 7 billion other people on the planet to consider?

As for Beast, he feels that Cyclops has deviated from Xavier's dream and is using more agressive militant tactics which Beast does not agree with so he rightfully left the X-Men years ago and is obviously going to side with the Avengers here. Neither of them are traitors in this scenario.

@Lvenger said:

@jhazzroucher: Wolverine's siding with the Avengers. And that doesn't make him the traitor. If anything he's totally doing the right thing. What Scott doesn't seem to realise is that by drawing the Phoenix towards Earth, he's threatening the entire planet. The Phoenix entity has a history for blowing planets up so it's only natural that the Avengers want to take Hope into custody. How can the X-Men be so selfish when there are over 7 billion other people on the planet to consider?

As for Beast, he feels that Cyclops has deviated from Xavier's dream and is using more agressive militant tactics which Beast does not agree with so he rightfully left the X-Men years ago and is obviously going to side with the Avengers here. Neither of them are traitors in this scenario.

ok. thanks for the clarification.

What is the avengers intention ? kill Hope?

@jhazzroucher: No they want to take her into protective custody not kill her. I think Thor, Ms Marvel and the Secret Avengers have been sent into space to destroy or slow down the Phoenix itself but the Avengers aren't looking to kill Hope at all.

@Lvenger said:

@jhazzroucher: No they want to take her into protective custody not kill her. I think Thor, Ms Marvel and the Secret Avengers have been sent into space to destroy or slow down the Phoenix itself but the Avengers aren't looking to kill Hope at all.

I see. Then I don't see the reason why they can't just discuss about the situation instead of fighting.

If only Storm was the leader, Storm and Captain America could have come up with a better solution.

@jhazzroucher: The reason why they're fighting is because the Avengers want to take Hope away from Utopia whilst Cyclops wants Hope to be the new host to the Phoenix Force. The Avengers think the Phoenix's coming means the destruction of Earth whilst the X-Men believe, well Cyclops anyway that the Phoenix will bring about the rebirth of the mutant race. That's why they're fighting. And as for Storm, she seems to be behind the X-Men as she left the Avengers' meeting about the Phoenix to return to Utopia to support the X-Men.