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Why won't Emma Frost teach Iceman how to use his powers?
Ok, what the hell? Emma Frost is a damned head instructor for the X-Men, but she refuses to teach Iceman? Is this true? Does no one on the X-Men give a crap?
When Emma controlled him, not even the entire X-Men gold team could stop Iceman! So he could be THAT powerful, and Emma just flat out refuses to aid him? When this could have saved lives during the entire Second Coming act (and countless others)?
Iceman's powers were pushed to their limit while possessed by Emma Frost, who used Iceman to discover the fate of her Hellions. During this time Iceman was able to control all forms of moisture, freeze fluids inside people's bodies, travel as a liquid, solid or gas. Not even the combined might of the X-Men Gold team was able to stop Emma Frost in Iceman's body.Following this Bobby confronted Emma about how she was able to use his powers so effectively and while together they make some initial progress but she refuses to train him.[53 ] Instead he turns to Storm because they share similar elemental powers and she agrees to tutor him. Ok, what the hell? Emma Frost is a damned head instructor for the X-Men, but she refuses to teach Iceman? Is this true? Does no one on the X-Men give a crap? When Emma controlled him, not even the entire X-Men gold team could stop Iceman! So he could be THAT powerful, and Emma just flat out refuses to aid him? When this could have saved lives during the entire Second Coming act (and countless others)?He's not mature enough to handle that kind of power?
@giantarms said:I'm betting he'd adopt that required level maturity to save his friends and teammates.Iceman's powers were pushed to their limit while possessed by Emma Frost, who used Iceman to discover the fate of her Hellions. During this time Iceman was able to control all forms of moisture, freeze fluids inside people's bodies, travel as a liquid, solid or gas. Not even the combined might of the X-Men Gold team was able to stop Emma Frost in Iceman's body.Following this Bobby confronted Emma about how she was able to use his powers so effectively and while together they make some initial progress but she refuses to train him.[53 ] Instead he turns to Storm because they share similar elemental powers and she agrees to tutor him. Ok, what the hell? Emma Frost is a damned head instructor for the X-Men, but she refuses to teach Iceman? Is this true? Does no one on the X-Men give a crap? When Emma controlled him, not even the entire X-Men gold team could stop Iceman! So he could be THAT powerful, and Emma just flat out refuses to aid him? When this could have saved lives during the entire Second Coming act (and countless others)?He's not mature enough to handle that kind of power?
It's Emma, seems exactly the type of nasty spiteful thing she would do but then again that's just my perception of her.
He can and she did, before becoming a head mistress for the X-Men actually. It happened in Uncanny X-Men #331. Sorry but that article is lacking in research.Ok, what the hell? Emma Frost is a damned head instructor for the X-Men, but she refuses to teach Iceman? Is this true? Does no one on the X-Men give a crap? When Emma controlled him, not even the entire X-Men gold team could stop Iceman! So he could be THAT powerful, and Emma just flat out refuses to aid him? When this could have saved lives during the entire Second Coming act (and countless others)?
He's displayed all of the listed abilities on his own since then.
There's also some confusion there. Emma is not a master at using ice elemental based powers, nor did Bobby need instruction in them.
The problem was he had a mental block inside his own mind prohibiting him from using his powers in full. Emma taught him how to conquer
that block in UXM#331.
@TheCrowbar said:I don't doubt he'd use the power to save his friends, but what about afterwards? That's the issue.@giantarms said:I'm betting he'd adopt that required level maturity to save his friends and teammates.Iceman's powers were pushed to their limit while possessed by Emma Frost, who used Iceman to discover the fate of her Hellions. During this time Iceman was able to control all forms of moisture, freeze fluids inside people's bodies, travel as a liquid, solid or gas. Not even the combined might of the X-Men Gold team was able to stop Emma Frost in Iceman's body.Following this Bobby confronted Emma about how she was able to use his powers so effectively and while together they make some initial progress but she refuses to train him.[53 ] Instead he turns to Storm because they share similar elemental powers and she agrees to tutor him. Ok, what the hell? Emma Frost is a damned head instructor for the X-Men, but she refuses to teach Iceman? Is this true? Does no one on the X-Men give a crap? When Emma controlled him, not even the entire X-Men gold team could stop Iceman! So he could be THAT powerful, and Emma just flat out refuses to aid him? When this could have saved lives during the entire Second Coming act (and countless others)?He's not mature enough to handle that kind of power?
Its not that she won't and he probably really doesn't need her to now anyway (Iceman made a LOT of progress by himself under Mike Carey), and she's not the one who gets to decide to aid him anyway. Its all the writers in this scenario. Power regression or being lazy. I mean, its like, why won't Iceman teach Iceman how to do in Uncanny what he did in Legacy? Can we blame Iceman?
Plus like another poster mentioned, some of that info isn't worded the best. I thought the Nimrod thing was okay, I mean, it could have been more specific and detailed, but my assumption was that the plasma attack was some sort of neutralizing agent that didn't actually burn him, or have the intent to burn him (unless maybe it was super, ultra heated in ways that can't be matched by current technology) but yeah, maybe it was working at neutralizing his powers/and or attacking on a sub molecular level (or basically just being a deus ex machina type attack, which is sort of okay here, because they are from the future and should possess technology that makes no sense to most people today yadda yadda) I mean, maybe, if Iceman was skilled and experienced enough, he could have snapped his own arm off and then reformed it... we have seen him blown up and return, but I haven't seen him consciously destroy himself to return (and maybe that's something that should stay in place for the immediate future)
She's not bitter. Nor a shrew, nor even English for that matter. Yes, she manipulates, but it's for the greater good. It's to HELP people. So please actually do your research on a character before spouting off statements that couldn't be more inaccurate.
Emma is just a bitter English shrew who likes to manipulate and hurt people verbably and emotionally!! The only thing she is good at (besides the obvious) is being heartless!!
I really hate posting scans, but it seems like many people never did their research, and like I said the summary here is incorrect, and it would be nice to set the record straight?
Excerpted from Uncanny X-Men #331:
1. She did teach Iceman how to use his powers, and he's had full access ever since
2. Personally, that doe's not look like the actions of an uncaring person or likewise, rather the opposite to me?
Ultimately everything a character is and does despite the characters potential is at the discretion of the writer, and thats that.
While Iceman didn't use his powers in full in several recent stories, he has in others.
Taking into account though that if most super powered characters used their powers as they could, it would make for a really short
read, especially given team scenario's.
Emma is just a bitter English shrew who likes to manipulate and hurt people verbably and emotionally!! The only thing she is good at (besides the obvious) is being heartless!!That was cold lol
@papad1992She's not bitter. Nor a shrew, nor even English for that matter. Yes, she manipulates, but it's for the greater good. It's to HELP people. So please actually do your research on a character before spouting off statements that couldn't be more inaccurate.
Emma is just a bitter English shrew who likes to manipulate and hurt people verbably and emotionally!! The only thing she is good at (besides the obvious) is being heartless!!
I was making a joke... I've been an X-fan for many years!! Just seeing how someone would reply because Emma Frost is a very touchy character that either most people love her or entirely hate her nothing in between!! I actually love her character, I wish there were more female characters with her business savy!!
LMAO @ all the Emma shade. ^_^
...IMO, Iceman couldn't handle controlling his powers at that exteme of a lvl yet....and I don't think Emma could properly teach him to do all that w/ just a few psy sessions. If she were that powerful, almost all the x-men would be omegas by now! So, no. lol
.....and we know how many of y'all hate on "ridiculously overpowered" mutants. #Jean *eyeroll*
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